NZ Murder Capital of the world?

NZ Murder Capital of the world?

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Richard Gee

201 posts

214 months

Tuesday 18th July 2006
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So true about some of these Government nonsense policies. Interestingly, they are similar in stupidity to those in the UK - education is one that rankles particularly - they have reduced the pass rate for some GCSE exams (O level equivalent, don't know what you have here??) to...wait for it.... 16% - I nearly wet myself laughing until I realised how bad a 'thing' it really was - long term for the kids and for society in general. 16% means you are shit at it, nothing more. In some schools they have even stopped stuff like the egg and spoon race, because they don't think competition is good for the kids. Shit, when I breed, my offspring will be competing at everything!!

I hate do-gooders. I bet they still wet their beds.

How do you stop this 'softening' then - seems to be a problem everywhere?

Esprit

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6,370 posts

284 months

Tuesday 18th July 2006
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Do what I suggested a while back on general gassing... I suggest we, along with most of the UK's armed forces (who are disgruntled with the UK government) forcibly annex the South Island from the rest of New Zealand. I say we call it the Republic of Pistonheadia. We admit only people who conform to the realities of "commonm sense" and then we basically cleanse the South Island of pretty much anyone who's already there and votes Labour by shipping them across the strait to Wellington... what they do from there is their own chuffing business.

We've got enough resources to be self sufficient. We've got most of NZ's power generation, we can sell it at exorbitant prices to those left in the North Island. We can have a policy of self-regulatory speed limits on our roads and we can order our National Guard to shoot anyone who even looks like Helen Clark on site then defacate on it's body.

Sounds good to me

I am of course joking.... but hell wouldn't it be nice to have a place where we could banish Political corectness to the bin and run a country like it SHOULD be run?

Edited by Esprit on Tuesday 18th July 11:45

Kiwi XTR2

2,693 posts

233 months

Tuesday 18th July 2006
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Watch out Geor . . . I mean 'John' . You realize someone was jailed for sedition today.

I wonder when the last time that happened was ?

GravelBen

15,698 posts

231 months

Tuesday 18th July 2006
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It'd be like a big, fun, well-resourced Isle of Man wouldn't it?

iwilson

246 posts

284 months

Tuesday 18th July 2006
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Give it 30 years George and Labour would be back in power All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others...

Esprit

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6,370 posts

284 months

Tuesday 18th July 2006
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iwilson said:
Give it 30 years George and Labour would be back in power All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others...


Hehe yeah, true I guess... but then I'm not even sure Helen is Animal any more... I just think she's a big lesbian robot being controlled by higher powers :P

kylie

4,391 posts

258 months

Tuesday 18th July 2006
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Yip agreed about Helen

My family from down south often talked about this North Island V's the South and why some people go to the extent of forming their own parties to have their say. The south island does have plenty of resources and could be self sufficient if it grabs the right mix of people, of course while I am alive I can’t see it happening, unless Hitler is reborn and gives us some lessons

Didn’t the Maoris hand over part of The Remarkables to all NZ’s lately that was once claimed as Maori land? The small joke was that Kumara can’t be grown up there Imagine if the whole of NZ was really warm, no snow, flat land. I think you’d see a completely different NZ. Thank the snow and the mountains

Anyway how many votes do we need to form a Pistonheadia Party

marksteamnz

196 posts

216 months

Tuesday 18th July 2006
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"I've long thought Western countries should be managed like businesses with hard edged entrepreneurs running them and not politicians"

The same hard edged entrepreneurs who sold sections right up to Bayparks boundaries, increasing its rateable value and absolutely guarrenting a clamour for noise and time limits. RIP Baypark, still have fond memories.
The same hard edged entrepreneurs who are squeezing Ardmore airfield for a long term goal of closing it an making a mint by selling sections.

Cheers
Mark Stacey
(soft and fluffy entrepreneur)

Richard Gee

201 posts

214 months

Tuesday 18th July 2006
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No, not those sort. Like you say - soft and fluffy entrepreneurs - like anything there are good and bad. It's nonsense that you have to be a bastard to be successful in business.

Esprit

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6,370 posts

284 months

Tuesday 18th July 2006
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I think what it comes down to is that the government is employed by us (the people) to act as a body to do our bidding for the GENERAL GOOD of the people. How can it be the general good if more people are becoming criminals and more people are becoming victims of crime? How can it be the general good if 1/3 of each tax dollar earned goes straight into paying the weekly benefit cheques of the lazy? How can it be the general good if a complaint from a single person or organisation can shut down or force closure of something that tens of thousands of people use and enjoy and have done so for many years?

The trouble comes when the government stops listening to the people and instead tries to placate them with buy-offs in the way of "working for families" benefits etc.

If we continue down Labour's path, we'll soon all be getting the same weekly benefit, be we a dole bludger or neurosurgeon and Wellington will truly be renamed Helengrad.

Richard Gee

201 posts

214 months

Wednesday 19th July 2006
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Will they win the next general election?

I don't think Labour will in the UK - the cat is kind of out of the bag on that one.

Esprit

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6,370 posts

284 months

Wednesday 19th July 2006
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Richard Gee said:
Will they win the next general election?

I don't think Labour will in the UK - the cat is kind of out of the bag on that one.


Well there were those of us who thought it impossible that they'd win the last one... they nearly didn't.... but they realised this about 4 months out from the election and they decided to scrap compulsory driver retests for OAPs (hence gaining the old fogeys' votes), they decided to completely scrap interest on student loans (which basically captured ALL of the student votes as NZ students owe LOTS... ironic because these students would have saved more money with National's Tax cuts, but apparently graduates aren't that smart) and also this stupid "working for families" package they've just released that much of middle NZ NEEDS now because the economy's screwed up and they're paying so much tax that they can't afford to make ends meet any more.

They'll win the next one too provided thy can come up with a similar sweeping list of bribes.

Richard Gee

201 posts

214 months

Wednesday 19th July 2006
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Oh dear - the Petrolhead Republic it is then

Richard Gee

201 posts

214 months

Wednesday 19th July 2006
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Law Number 1 - No benefits for lazy bastards

Law Number 2 - Compulsory physical training twice daily for fat fookers

Law Number 3 - No Americans

Law Number 4 - 20% of duty on fuel to be used for the development of South Island race tracks.

Law Number 5 - 80% of fuel duty to be used to bribe Bernie into having the NZ Grand Prix at the Dunedinring

Law Number 6 - No poodles

Law Number 7 - Free Honda conversions for Elise owners

Law Number 8 - Post of Foreign Secretary to be held by a Kea

That would do me for starters.

Esprit

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6,370 posts

284 months

Wednesday 19th July 2006
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Law Number 7 - Free Honda conversions for Elise owners



Classic

Kiwi XTR2

2,693 posts

233 months

Wednesday 19th July 2006
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Esprit said:
Law Number 7 - Free Honda conversions for Elise owners



Classic

Yeah, but there'd be a drafting error by the Pistonheadia Parliamentry Services and it would come out as:

Law Number 7(a)(4)(xxviii) Free Elise conversions for Honda owners

kylie

4,391 posts

258 months

Wednesday 19th July 2006
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Kiwi XTR2 said:
Esprit said:
Law Number 7 - Free Honda conversions for Elise owners



Classic

Yeah, but there'd be a drafting error by the Pistonheadia Parliamentry Services and it would come out as:

Law Number 7(a)(4)(xxviii) Free Elise conversions for Honda owners

GravelBen

15,698 posts

231 months

Wednesday 19th July 2006
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Esprit said:
...they decided to completely scrap interest on student loans (which basically captured ALL of the student votes as NZ students owe LOTS... ironic because these students would have saved more money with National's Tax cuts, but apparently graduates aren't that smart) and also this stupid "working for families" package they've just released that much of middle NZ NEEDS now because the economy's screwed up and they're paying so much tax that they can't afford to make ends meet any more.

They'll win the next one too provided thy can come up with a similar sweeping list of bribes.


Not mine! But I agree about their shameless vote-buying, in fact last time I heard them quizzed on when they would be spending some of the multi-billion-dollar surplus on health, education etc the response was:

"We don't expect that money to be available for spending until around 2008"

So money avaiable just in time for the next election? what a remarkable coincidence...

marksteamnz

196 posts

216 months

Wednesday 19th July 2006
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[quote=Richard Gee]Law Number 1 - No benefits for lazy bastards

Unfortunately as I understand it most of the "benefit" money goes to on National Super, and after Muldoons election bribe to set thst up it's gone in the to hard basket. Not much of the take goes on unemployment benefits, and if you want to cut sickness benefit perhaps you'd like to chat to my mate who's lungs are stuffed from emphysema, he's never smoked by the way, and has worked when he could. He's now 10 years on battling cancer beaten it twice with chemo, (easy, you just feel like hammered dog shit for 6 months), the third round is in his lungs so he's run out of options and is boxing on and hoping it won't be to soon.
I'm sure people abuse the welfare benefits but all of them?, 50%?, 10%?, 2%?

Cheers
Mark Stacey

dejoux

772 posts

284 months

Wednesday 19th July 2006
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I dont know the figures but check the number of people on sickness benefits now compared to when they were introduced. Its around about 10 times as many. I dont see any signs of the general population being 10 times sicker than they used to be.

I suspect labour has a good chance of getting back in next time as well. Theyve stuffed up uncountable times yet it never seems to effect them. They blatantly abuse dozens of different laws that commoners have to abide by and increase taxes on everything yet still people love them. All itll take to win the next election is give some of the country back some of its own money that theyve been hoarding solely for that purpose.

I suspect if they hadnt looked close to winning the last election before the night we would have seen more bribes. How about free tertiary education, or free healthcare for anyone who voted labour in the last election How about they just abolish elections completley, its a logical next step to save everyday citizens from having to think about anything