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How about a chicken cooker; RX7 Batty - a nicely balanced 2wd/ rwd platform - that from someone who's always had Jap 4wd turbos umtil discovering the joy of balanced euro 2wds (Porsche 944 urbo S and Porsche 968) !! - 4wd can/does cover up a multitude of sins.
How much more entertaining is a BDA Escort compared to an Evo or WRX?
How much more entertaining is a BDA Escort compared to an Evo or WRX?
pawsmcgraw said:
www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Cars/Mitsubishi/auction-63666863.htm
time to smash the piggy bank open i does feel
she'll do!
time to smash the piggy bank open i does feel
she'll do!
Well least its handy for viewing
pawsmcgraw said:
www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Cars/Mitsubishi/auction-63666863.htm
time to smash the piggy bank open i does feel
she'll do!
time to smash the piggy bank open i does feel
she'll do!
Nice, have fun
and remember the basic principle of AWD on gravel - when in doubt, power out!
I accept no responsibility if fancy Evo AWD stops this working
Edited by GravelBen on Wednesday 30th August 02:26
GravelBen said:
. . . and remember the basic principle of AWD on gravel - when in doubt, power out!
That's kind of like the Clarkson (or was it Hammond?) explanation of why RWD is better that FWD:
Top Gear said:
In a FWD car if you give it too much around a corner you will understeer, go off the road, hit a tree, and die.
In a RWD car if you give it too much around a corner you will oversteer, SPIN, go off the road, hit a tree, and die.
Thus proving that RWD is superior to FWD on the basis that you don't see the tree that kills you.
In a RWD car if you give it too much around a corner you will oversteer, SPIN, go off the road, hit a tree, and die.
Thus proving that RWD is superior to FWD on the basis that you don't see the tree that kills you.
Gets me every time Small things for small minds
www.youtube.com/watch?v=lIB3bbdU9oU has Hammond's demo of oversteer and understeer using toy cars (and a review of 996 turbo + C4S with funny bit at the end)
The first time I heard that basic description of understeer and oversteer was an interview I saw with Walter Rohrl once, it cracked me up - "understeer is when you see the tree when you hit it, oversteer is when you just hear and feel it"
The first time I heard that basic description of understeer and oversteer was an interview I saw with Walter Rohrl once, it cracked me up
- "understeer is when you see the tree when you hit it, oversteer is when you just hear and feel it" Edited by GravelBen on Wednesday 30th August 12:36
some great comments Well there is no argument, its quite quick.
No worries with the driving, i've got a history of competing in motorsport but i am due an off road excursion sometime soon.(spoken diplomatically so the wife doesn't read it as a crash!)I would have to place a block of wood under the throttle pedal on the evo for the gravel roads.It has to be the easiest car to spin the wheels up on boost.Short shift galore and only with a few mills of throttle but it still lights up.Only because of the road tyres in sure.
Just off to try a turbo ute for a bit of a comparrison.
Who use to drive the Mantas in the eighties that had a bizzare driving style of going from understeer to oversteer on every corner, just from feel....he never got a reputation as a crasher and was awsome fast?Scandinavian?
Richard Gee said:
Is the answer to the question Henri Toivonen?
I don't remember him ever driving the Mantas, he drove Lotus-Talbot and then Lancias (037 and Delta S4) until he died during the Tour de Corse in '86. Or did he drive Mantas before the Talbots? Rohrl drove a Manta for a while, but I can't remeber who else. Possibly Timo Salonen? (not sure on spelling of that one).
www.forum-auto.com/uploads/200502/vive_la_prop..._1109004704_toivonen_1983_1000_lacs.jpg
Talbots, then these, then the Lancias. With a bit of Porsche thrown in for good measure on the Safari (I think) and on track with the Rothmans Le Mans 956. Also did a Formula 3 race in 1982 in a Ralt in the UK and finished tenth. Was a bit of a fan.
Talbots, then these, then the Lancias. With a bit of Porsche thrown in for good measure on the Safari (I think) and on track with the Rothmans Le Mans 956. Also did a Formula 3 race in 1982 in a Ralt in the UK and finished tenth. Was a bit of a fan.
you're right, having checked the (excellent) Toivonen tribute video I have in my masses of downloaded Rally stuff, theres a few clips of him in the Manta, I'd just forgotten about them. He was an amazing driver though I agree, I'm a big fan of the Group4 - GroupB era drivers despite having been too young to see any of it at the time. Vatanen has to be my favourite driver still, with Toivonen and Rohrl sharing a very close second.
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