A127 new 50 limit
Discussion
Looks like this is going ahead from the Fortune of War to the existing 50 limit at Pound lane.
https://www.thurrockgazette.co.uk/news/18138992.ne...
Personally I don't think it will help emissions too much for two reasons:
1. When it's congested it's already far below 50mph, for example going from Bas to Southend you spend considerable time stopped/move 5 car lengths/stop again because of the backed up traffic due to traffic trying to merge at the A1245 junction, and this often goes all the way back past the Nevendon junction.
2. When it's free flowing the HGVs are already doing 56, when you put a 50 limit in place they will be doing ... 56.
Still, better than a road charging scheme.
https://www.thurrockgazette.co.uk/news/18138992.ne...
Personally I don't think it will help emissions too much for two reasons:
1. When it's congested it's already far below 50mph, for example going from Bas to Southend you spend considerable time stopped/move 5 car lengths/stop again because of the backed up traffic due to traffic trying to merge at the A1245 junction, and this often goes all the way back past the Nevendon junction.
2. When it's free flowing the HGVs are already doing 56, when you put a 50 limit in place they will be doing ... 56.
Still, better than a road charging scheme.
lukeharding said:
Can't read the link as it won't let me past the cookies thing. I'm not surprised they're doing it, though it seems like an absolutely pointless idea.
Yes it's a pain.Article text
article said:
A NEW 50mph speed limit will come into effect on the A127 in March in a bid to cut air pollution and prevent a congestion charge.
Essex County Council have now approved plans to reduced speeds, which they believe is the “quickest and most efficient way” to improve air quality.
Basildon Council was initially told in January 2018 that drastic changes were needed, but have insisted since that it will adamantly oppose any congestion charge on the road.
Leader of Basildon Council, Gavin Callaghan, said: “Toxic air remains the number one environmental health hazard. We know that reducing speeds from 70mph to 50mph can cut harmful nitrogen dioxide emissions from vehicle exhausts, as well as improve road safety.
“Whilst I do not want to make life harder for motorists, the same cannot be said for the government who continue to threaten us with a charging zone on the A127.
“Therefore I believe this speed reduction is a sensible and appropriate measure for the Basildon stretch of the A127.
“I want to be clear that the council remains opposed to the Government’s plans for a congestion charge on the A127 and we will continue to make the case to the government to reverse their flawed strategy.”
The speed reduction will officially come into place on March 31 after Essex County Council approved plans before Christmas.
A spokesperson for Essex County Council said: “We’re committed to improving air quality on the A127 and are pleased to approve plans to reduce the speed limit from 70mph to 50mph.
“This is the quickest and most efficient way of improving air quality in this area, and is expected to reduce harmful nitrogen dioxide to safe levels by 2021.
“We have worked closely with partners on these plans, investigating all possible solutions to tackle air pollution from traffic in the area. The new limit will also improve safety and congestion.”
Essex County Council have now approved plans to reduced speeds, which they believe is the “quickest and most efficient way” to improve air quality.
Basildon Council was initially told in January 2018 that drastic changes were needed, but have insisted since that it will adamantly oppose any congestion charge on the road.
Leader of Basildon Council, Gavin Callaghan, said: “Toxic air remains the number one environmental health hazard. We know that reducing speeds from 70mph to 50mph can cut harmful nitrogen dioxide emissions from vehicle exhausts, as well as improve road safety.
“Whilst I do not want to make life harder for motorists, the same cannot be said for the government who continue to threaten us with a charging zone on the A127.
“Therefore I believe this speed reduction is a sensible and appropriate measure for the Basildon stretch of the A127.
“I want to be clear that the council remains opposed to the Government’s plans for a congestion charge on the A127 and we will continue to make the case to the government to reverse their flawed strategy.”
The speed reduction will officially come into place on March 31 after Essex County Council approved plans before Christmas.
A spokesperson for Essex County Council said: “We’re committed to improving air quality on the A127 and are pleased to approve plans to reduce the speed limit from 70mph to 50mph.
“This is the quickest and most efficient way of improving air quality in this area, and is expected to reduce harmful nitrogen dioxide to safe levels by 2021.
“We have worked closely with partners on these plans, investigating all possible solutions to tackle air pollution from traffic in the area. The new limit will also improve safety and congestion.”
rgw2012 said:
+1 - and we will just have a longer stretch for people to sit in the outside lane doing 48 and braking for each average speed camera while the inside lane is empty 
and you're not wrong there - average speed scamera and they brake for it Edited by rgw2012 on Wednesday 8th January 09:46
irocfan said:
budgie smuggler said:
Looks like they've put it into place already, there were 50 signs at my junction this morning. 
Doesn't look like the cameras are in place yet but I assume they'll follow shortly.
apparently this is for roadworks to do the work to reduce to 50 Doesn't look like the cameras are in place yet but I assume they'll follow shortly.
rgw2012 said:
They were tweeting yesterday to say that the new limit is in place from today but I guess that could be the temp 50 while they do the roadworks which will then morph into the permanent 50 once completed. Oh joy.....
Proper repeater signs all the way from fortune to the existing 50 before Rayleigh.Scamera vans coming to a layby soon.
Our office is in Rayleigh, if they do congestion charge the 127, i’m moving it.
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