M3 Nightmare Continues!
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SVTRick said:
After a few miles he said to me "you never even lifted off or hit the brake " why would I do that and risk a skid
You can't lift off without losing control and skidding? Wow. Top skills.And does your truck not have ABS, as required by law?
Anyhow, for those who miss sitting in lengthy queues bordered by comes whilst absolutely no work is being done, plans are looming to build a new service area between J6 and 7 which would involve new entry and exit slips plus a bridge or tunnel to carry n/b traffic over to the s/b side where the services will be sited.
Obviously the twenty minute drive between Fleet and Winchester services is just too much for some people.
Crossflow Kid said:
Anyhow, for those who miss sitting in lengthy queues bordered by comes whilst absolutely no work is being done, plans are looming to build a new service area between J6 and 7 which would involve new entry and exit slips plus a bridge or tunnel to carry n/b traffic over to the s/b side where the services will be sited.
Obviously the twenty minute drive between Fleet and Winchester services is just too much for some people.
Seriously? That's just mental.Obviously the twenty minute drive between Fleet and Winchester services is just too much for some people.
Crossflow Kid said:
Obviously the twenty minute drive between Fleet and Winchester services is just too much for some people.
Indeed. They need to be thinking about having a services on the M25 to break the gap between Fleet and South Mimms. (I assume the only thing stopping it is a lack of land in the north-west quadrant of the M25.)Truckosaurus said:
Indeed. They need to be thinking about having a services on the M25 to break the gap between Fleet and South Mimms. (I assume the only thing stopping it is a lack of land in the north-west quadrant of the M25.)
In fairness, the distance between the two is 50 miles, which I don't think is excessive, but is on the limit of the distance we should have between services.Going clockwise, it's 44 miles between Cobham and South Mimms, then 35 miles round to Thurrock, then 20 miles to Clackett Lane, and 22 miles back to Cobham.
Based on that, I think the M25 is pretty well served.
Crossflow Kid said:
Anyhow, for those who miss sitting in lengthy queues bordered by comes whilst absolutely no work is being done, plans are looming to build a new service area between J6 and 7.
Actually there are two competing planning applications; one between J6 and J7, and another at J6 itself. Crossflow Kid said:
SVTRick said:
After a few miles he said to me "you never even lifted off or hit the brake " why would I do that and risk a skid
You can't lift off without losing control and skidding? Wow. Top skills.And does your truck not have ABS, as required by law?
the chances are you as truck driver will be blamed and the nugget drives off without a care.
(you sound like one of those nugget drivers that only has a car entitlement, get up behind the wheel of a big rig and then come back and tell me all about it)
Your 2nd point about ABS perhaps read up the facts relating to Commercial Vehicles construction and use.
ABS is not required by law so not sure where you get that from.
Most new HGV's have ABS - my 10 tonner does
26ton grab trucks I hire from time to time - not all of them have ABS
My 32 tonner does not have ABS and was never built with it
Please get you facts correct before spouting your mouth of about something to clearly no nothing about
SVTRick said:
you sound like one of those nugget drivers that only has a car entitlement, get up behind the wheel of a big rig and then come back and tell me all about it
If only you knew......
ABS has been mandatory on all newly constructed vehicles over 3500kgs GVW since 2002.
You must drive some right old heaps.
Anyhow, I'm still intrigued how lifting off the gas a little would cause you to lose control.
You're driving a truck, not a rally car.
I think what really happened is a car cut across in front of you, and instead of yielding slightly (and thus admitting "defeat") you kept your right foot firmly planted to the floor for no other reason than to scare the willies off the nugget car driver who just wouldn't understand what it's like driving a "big rig".
Am I close?
Edited by anonymous-user on Wednesday 13th December 22:23
Edited by anonymous-user on Thursday 14th December 07:20
Crossflow Kid said:
ABS has been mandatory on all newly constructed vehicles over 3500kgs GVW since 2002
- http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2001/3208/pdfs/...See Regulation 5 (amending Regulation 15 of C&U 1986) and the Explantory Note.
Crossflow Kid said:
If only you knew......
ABS has been mandatory on all newly constructed vehicles over 3500kgs GVW since 2002.
You must drive some right old heaps.
Anyhow, I'm still intrigued how lifting off the gas a little would cause you to lose control.
You're driving a truck, not a rally car.
I think what really happened is a car cut across in front of you, and instead of yielding slightly (and thus admitting "defeat") you kept your right foot firmly planted to the floor for no other reason than to scare the willies off the nugget car driver who just wouldn't understand what it's like driving a "big rig".
Am I close?
Edited by Crossflow Kid on Wednesday 13th December 22:23
Edited by Crossflow Kid on Thursday 14th December 07:20
You stated ABS was mandatory so you proved yourself wrong.
When in your in quite heavy traffic all moving at speeds from 50-70mph and some twunt decides to turn at near 90 deg across your path at the very last moment your better off keeping straight and on track otherwise the next thing you know the other drivers gone and you have caused a collision.
30 tons at 60mph can do a lot of damage so give them all the road space they need and respect their size and stopping distances. Try not to be a silly boy and turn across in front of one.
Get yourself a licence that allows you to drive something bigger and see for yourself what your up against.
The so called old heap you refer to cost over £240k when new and is still worth a lot now (More than you earn in a year I guess) and earns a good amount every shift it works.
But then your just another one of the bell end types that sit behind a keyboard that needs to get a life.
Ask your boyfriend to take you out a bit more.
I also noticed you have edited your post twice. Is that because it was beer talking so you decided to change it ?
You need to grow a pair.
I have a license to drive many, many things which is why I always have a little chuckle at belligerent "professional" truck drivers who always fall back on the tired old excuse of "Those idiot car drivers just wouldn't understand" to defend their own poor driving, intolerance of anything less than 7500kgs and general laziness in mixing with other traffic which is just as entitled to be on the road as a near twenty-year old German tipper truck.
Keep on truckin' you hero.
Another edit for you:
I stated ABS is mandatory from 2002 and assumed (dangerous thing to do I know) that any decent driver would have their skills rewarded with something more recent. Sorry about that.
I'm still not clear on why, although you chose not to brake or steer around the hazard (fair enough), you also chose not to back off. At all.
Any subsequent collision investigation (were there to be one) would in all likelihood declare that you made no attempt to avoid a collision, regardless of who triggered the event.
You may not have been "at fault" but choosing not to react could be deemed a contributory factor in any collision.
Being just a car driver with no genitalia apparently, I'm probably wrong on that one too.
Keep on truckin' you hero.
Another edit for you:
I stated ABS is mandatory from 2002 and assumed (dangerous thing to do I know) that any decent driver would have their skills rewarded with something more recent. Sorry about that.
I'm still not clear on why, although you chose not to brake or steer around the hazard (fair enough), you also chose not to back off. At all.
Any subsequent collision investigation (were there to be one) would in all likelihood declare that you made no attempt to avoid a collision, regardless of who triggered the event.
You may not have been "at fault" but choosing not to react could be deemed a contributory factor in any collision.
Being just a car driver with no genitalia apparently, I'm probably wrong on that one too.
Edited by anonymous-user on Thursday 14th December 08:58
Crossflow Kid said:
Another edit for you:
I stated ABS is mandatory from 2002 and assumed (dangerous thing to do I know) that any decent driver would have their skills rewarded with something more recent. Sorry about that.
Your original comment " And does your truck not have ABS, as required by law?" I stated ABS is mandatory from 2002 and assumed (dangerous thing to do I know) that any decent driver would have their skills rewarded with something more recent. Sorry about that.
Edited by Crossflow Kid on Thursday 14th December 08:50
A vehicle fitted with ABS is no guarantee you will not skip or slide
FYI Its not a German Tipper Truck, uses truck chassis with what hey used to call road friendly suspension, over 400BHP using an RP engine format (falls into the TFL LEZ now
) double drive with 16 speed eaton box, diff & cross locks Was built with a design life of 15-20 years, the whole unit is going in for a re-chassis and refurbishment next year as to replace it now costs over £325k (This incident with the car driver was in 2012 on the M25-A3 Junction at aprox 06:45 and was over in flash cant really believe someone would drive like that but hell there you go they still do judging by the amount of footage on U-tube )
Has full service documentation and all approvals for "Special Vehicle" ( I own 2 of them plus support units )
Will leave it at that.
And the M3 still sucks like a 20$ hooker.
Ok, but you still haven't explained why you didn't just back off the gas a little to give the car (and indeed yourself) a little more leeway, thus making the whole episode potentially less hazardous for all concerned. I thought that's what being a professional driver was all about? Yer know.....being able to react to a situation and the errors of other less skillful or experienced road users?
Your lorry sounds awesome by the way. I wish I had one. Does it have a kettle?
Your lorry sounds awesome by the way. I wish I had one. Does it have a kettle?
Crossflow Kid said:
Ok, but you still haven't explained why you didn't just back off the gas a little to give the car (and indeed yourself) a little more leeway, thus making the whole episode potentially less hazardous for all concerned. I thought that's what being a professional driver was all about? Yer know.....being able to react to a situation and the errors of other less skillful or experienced road users?
Your lorry sounds awesome by the way. I wish I had one. Does it have a kettle?
The driver of the car turned sharp across to exit from lane 3 past 2 and me in lane 1 and almost dead sideways to my truck so close I could see the rear passenger bricking it.Your lorry sounds awesome by the way. I wish I had one. Does it have a kettle?
then off up the silp road after crossing the hatch area just before the armco - very little time.
Yes has a kettle for that important brew up on site
Cats said:
There is major construction work between the M40 junction and Rickmansworth on the west side of the carriageway. Any ideas what this is for as it looks like it could be a service area being built? There's been a 50mph limit there for some time now!
HS2 No idea why they need to narrow the lanes with all that land.
DJT said:
M3 4a North works compound now being emptied. That's a good sign.
Excellent news. The Recovery compound just short of Fleet services has been pretty much wiped from the face of the earth too. Even the perimeter fence behind the hard shoulder has gone back in, just as it was before.Dr Interceptor said:
Truckosaurus said:
Indeed. They need to be thinking about having a services on the M25 to break the gap between Fleet and South Mimms. (I assume the only thing stopping it is a lack of land in the north-west quadrant of the M25.)
In fairness, the distance between the two is 50 miles, which I don't think is excessive, but is on the limit of the distance we should have between services.Going clockwise, it's 44 miles between Cobham and South Mimms, then 35 miles round to Thurrock, then 20 miles to Clackett Lane, and 22 miles back to Cobham.
Based on that, I think the M25 is pretty well served.
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