1st Wednesday Club

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Snoggledog

7,074 posts

218 months

Wednesday 3rd February 2010
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PetrolTed said:
Ross, you'd be up against Google Docs amongst others. That's a formidable and established competitor. There's also scribd which might overlap.
Does depend on what he's offering. I use Google Docs (spreadsheets) from time to time and find it adequate and no more. There are some pretty basic functions which are missing (decent date formatting for a start) which let it down. If he went down the thin client / Citrix route then he could be onto something but the start up costs for something like that could be prohibitive.

Frimley111R

15,678 posts

235 months

Wednesday 3rd February 2010
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Snoggledog said:
PetrolTed said:
Ross, you'd be up against Google Docs amongst others. That's a formidable and established competitor. There's also scribd which might overlap.
Does depend on what he's offering. I use Google Docs (spreadsheets) from time to time and find it adequate and no more. There are some pretty basic functions which are missing (decent date formatting for a start) which let it down. If he went down the thin client / Citrix route then he could be onto something but the start up costs for something like that could be prohibitive.
I think that simply being proactive could be the key. There are tools to do anything you want on the internet if you can bothered to work out how they operate. I'd be more proactive, contacting small businesses, getting them signed up etc. I am pretty sure you could do this irrespective of whether Google did this for free (as they do) but the start up costs could indeed be high (didn't get too far into this but it seemed to be in the multiple thousands).

hewlett

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2,186 posts

222 months

Wednesday 3rd February 2010
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A lot of online data storage services use the Amazon servers and just put a pretty front end onto some very cheap storage. If you ever need to add lots of data to their servers it can be cheaper to post them the disk than try and get it over the web.

johnvthe2nd

1,285 posts

198 months

Wednesday 3rd February 2010
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Frimley111R said:
Snoggledog said:
PetrolTed said:
Ross, you'd be up against Google Docs amongst others. That's a formidable and established competitor. There's also scribd which might overlap.
Does depend on what he's offering. I use Google Docs (spreadsheets) from time to time and find it adequate and no more. There are some pretty basic functions which are missing (decent date formatting for a start) which let it down. If he went down the thin client / Citrix route then he could be onto something but the start up costs for something like that could be prohibitive.
I think that simply being proactive could be the key. There are tools to do anything you want on the internet if you can bothered to work out how they operate. I'd be more proactive, contacting small businesses, getting them signed up etc. I am pretty sure you could do this irrespective of whether Google did this for free (as they do) but the start up costs could indeed be high (didn't get too far into this but it seemed to be in the multiple thousands).
I'm sorry I missed this one, it does seem to have been interesting!
You'll have big problems selling something like that, even to small businesses. There will ALWAYS be someone, if not in the organisation it will be a mate down the pub, who will say ' .. did you know you can get that free with google docs' (or whatever), and he then will not be able to buy it even if he wanted to!
Then there's always the other problem that if you do spend time and money adding value, all the work you do (and pay for) will be included in the next release of google docs anyway ..

I know, I'm a pessimist, I'm also not rich, so feel free to ignore all this ..

Snoggledog

7,074 posts

218 months

Wednesday 3rd February 2010
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Frimley111R said:
I think that simply being proactive could be the key. There are tools to do anything you want on the internet if you can bothered to work out how they operate.
True to a degree but then most small businesses will plum for the default MS option in any case.
Frimley111R said:
I'd be more proactive, contacting small businesses, getting them signed up etc. I am pretty sure you could do this irrespective of whether Google did this for free (as they do) but the start up costs could indeed be high (didn't get too far into this but it seemed to be in the multiple thousands).
Apart from startup costs the next 3 major issues are security, bandwidth and uptime. If you can't deliver those you'll be in serious trouble.

I gained a reputation at a previous job of finding fault and picking holes in many of my managers plans. One appraisal read along the lines of "Mr. Snoggledog. If you don't like the way I do things the door's thataway >" He was encouraged to leave 6 months later after a few (expensive) flaws were found in his business model.

don4l

10,058 posts

177 months

Thursday 4th February 2010
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Well, the consultant came to see me today. Thanks to the advice that I received on Tuesday, we came to an agreement in a few minutes.

I'm really feeling very good. The next 12 months will show if it has worked out.


Don
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hewlett

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2,186 posts

222 months

Thursday 4th February 2010
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Great news Don, in this economic climate I'm sure you'll get what you want.

Btw, with it looking like doing these meets on a Wednesday might be better. Can I just please see how this would suit others?

PetrolTed

34,428 posts

304 months

Friday 5th February 2010
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Wednesday is good for me.

VXRTOM

707 posts

178 months

Friday 5th February 2010
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Wednesday's are also good for me

don4l

10,058 posts

177 months

Friday 5th February 2010
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Wednesday is good for me. In fact, next month I won't be able to do Tuesday.


Don
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theboyfold

10,921 posts

227 months

Friday 5th February 2010
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There is no day in the week that's any better or worse for me!

However next Wednesday is my anniversary for when I met my OH, so I guess I will be busy that night...

Snoggledog

7,074 posts

218 months

Friday 5th February 2010
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Wednesdays are fine for me.

Kinky

39,575 posts

270 months

Friday 5th February 2010
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I think my feelings on Wednesdays are well known thumbup

kiwifraser

4,386 posts

195 months

Friday 5th February 2010
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Steve - Tuesdays for me have always been a bloody nightmare. Wednesdays are much better, although I need to make sure each month it doesn't clash with Vicki's school committee meeting.

hewlett

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2,186 posts

222 months

Friday 5th February 2010
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Brilliant, glad Wednesdays are looking better and hey, we'll double the Irish posse in one fell swoop!

stevieb

5,252 posts

268 months

Friday 5th February 2010
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I have been wanting to come along to these for a while, but tuesdays are a complete nightmare for me.. Wednesday is better for me all round.


Frimley111R

15,678 posts

235 months

Friday 5th February 2010
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Wednesdays is fine for me too.

I've been progressing my Marketing idea (probably a good thing as my file sharing/access idea seemed to create more problems than it solved!). I've now spoken to a couple of market research companies and have some specification documents to fill out so that they can provide a quote. I've also been going through the some of the detail of what I want to do and solving this. Things seem to be moving slowly but they aren't really. Everyone I tell about my idea seems positive, and not just people who would be positive because they are my friend or a relative.

Snoggledog

7,074 posts

218 months

Sunday 7th February 2010
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I have a new idea, (haven't given up on the other one though,) but I could do with the opinion of Ted and Don. If you chaps are amenable, could I drop you a longish note in the next day or so?

PetrolTed

34,428 posts

304 months

Sunday 7th February 2010
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Happy to help if I can.

don4l

10,058 posts

177 months

Sunday 7th February 2010
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Snoggledog said:
I have a new idea, (haven't given up on the other one though,) but I could do with the opinion of Ted and Don. If you chaps are amenable, could I drop you a longish note in the next day or so?
Of course.


Don
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