RACEPROVED SLAVE CYLINDERS

RACEPROVED SLAVE CYLINDERS

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bouldster

Original Poster:

80 posts

176 months

Tuesday 21st February 2012
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Hi does anybody have any experience of these as my standard cylinder is leaking and i'm debating wether to spend £25 on seals or £275 on a raceproved cylinder?

dvs_dave

8,630 posts

225 months

Wednesday 22nd February 2012
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Had my standard one repaired with the seal kit. It failed within 1000 miles. Dealer did again out of good will, and it failed again within 2000 miles.

Got fed up and bought the raceproved one and told them to fit that. It's been perfect for the past 30k (touches wood) and feels way better than the standard one ever did. And that's was with me living in central London so loads of stop start traffic in that time.


leman600

223 posts

216 months

Wednesday 22nd February 2012
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Only had the Raceproved one for around 1000 miles but feels better and certainly looks made to last longer than the original.

Tanguero

4,535 posts

201 months

Wednesday 22nd February 2012
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Standard cylinder used to eat seals on a regular basis. The Raceproved replacement is beautifully engineered and has permanently cured the problem. Well worth the price in my experience

Boatbuoy

1,941 posts

162 months

Wednesday 22nd February 2012
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My standard unit failed 4 dyas before setting off for Le Mans last summer. I couldn't afford to get a garage to do it so I rolled up my sleves and got on with it. On that occasion I replaced the seals but by August it had failed again. This time I fitted the raceproved unit and had no problems since.

Some people say it makes the pedal feel lighter, but I can't say I noticed a weight difference. I would however say mine now feels more precise.

The Raceproved unit is a wonderful looking piece of kit, it's a shame you can't see it once it's installed!

FarmyardPants

4,108 posts

218 months

Wednesday 22nd February 2012
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I'm doing a 3,000 mile round trip to southern Spain at the end of March, I'm seriously considering changing my slave for a raceproved one, even though my clutch is currently ok. I'm on my 4th slave, and it's the one thing that worries me about the trip frown

Has anyone had a raceproved slave fail?

Mark.

11,104 posts

276 months

Wednesday 22nd February 2012
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RP all the way, had no end of trouble with mine as the seals had gone, kept bleeding it but in the end it just kept giving up after 40 odd miles.
Bit the bullet, got the RP one and it's been great. Doesn't actually 'feel' different but I have every confidence in it now.

Boatbuoy

1,941 posts

162 months

Wednesday 22nd February 2012
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FarmyardPants said:
I'm doing a 3,000 mile round trip to southern Spain at the end of March, I'm seriously considering changing my slave for a raceproved one, even though my clutch is currently ok. I'm on my 4th slave, and it's the one thing that worries me about the trip frown

Has anyone had a raceproved slave fail?
I've heard one person claim that theirs had failed, but I can't verify this.

Mark.

11,104 posts

276 months

Wednesday 22nd February 2012
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Boatbuoy said:
I've heard one person claim that theirs had failed, but I can't verify this.
I've heard the same, but then I suppose every product made has a failure now and again, can't make something fail-proof really I suppose.


Session

252 posts

180 months

Wednesday 22nd February 2012
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Had a RaceProved one fitted when my clutch went and it started leaking after about 3 thousand miles, had it replaced with a new one under warranty and been trouble free since so happy overall.

bouldster

Original Poster:

80 posts

176 months

Wednesday 22nd February 2012
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thanks for the feedback guys its a raceproved one for me then,i will be giving them a call in the morning

Robertjp

2,281 posts

225 months

Thursday 23rd February 2012
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something im missing here i think,

Arent the fingers the weak point in the clutch? They would last between 25-40k miles on average?

Is so....the whole assembly has to come out? I would have thought its cost effective to ALWAYS replace the slave at this point...in which case i would question whether the Raceproved item gives you any payback??

Im really not knocking it, its clearly better than standard, but just how much longer does it last and does it pay off?

It makes sense if it lasts MUCH longer and is clearly less of a risk to reliability.

Standard item £200 and racproved £277 so not the end of the world in temrs of price difference, and i guess if they last 50-80k miles then its paid for itself (i.e. 1 or more clutch pressure plate change)...


Getsis

1,537 posts

216 months

Thursday 23rd February 2012
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How easy is this to change in your own garage?

Gazzab

21,093 posts

282 months

Thursday 23rd February 2012
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Robertjp said:
something im missing here i think,

Arent the fingers the weak point in the clutch? They would last between 25-40k miles on average?

Is so....the whole assembly has to come out? I would have thought its cost effective to ALWAYS replace the slave at this point...in which case i would question whether the Raceproved item gives you any payback??

Im really not knocking it, its clearly better than standard, but just how much longer does it last and does it pay off?

It makes sense if it lasts MUCH longer and is clearly less of a risk to reliability.

Standard item £200 and racproved £277 so not the end of the world in temrs of price difference, and i guess if they last 50-80k miles then its paid for itself (i.e. 1 or more clutch pressure plate change)...

I am sure it makes sense as you might do 2 or 3 cylinders/sets of seals between clutch changes. The product does seem to be a 9.5 outta 10 with the OE version down at 3 outta 10 IMHO :-)

Boatbuoy

1,941 posts

162 months

Thursday 23rd February 2012
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Robertjp said:
something im missing here i think,

Arent the fingers the weak point in the clutch? They would last between 25-40k miles on average?

Is so....the whole assembly has to come out? I would have thought its cost effective to ALWAYS replace the slave at this point...in which case i would question whether the Raceproved item gives you any payback??

Im really not knocking it, its clearly better than standard, but just how much longer does it last and does it pay off?

It makes sense if it lasts MUCH longer and is clearly less of a risk to reliability.

Standard item £200 and racproved £277 so not the end of the world in temrs of price difference, and i guess if they last 50-80k miles then its paid for itself (i.e. 1 or more clutch pressure plate change)...

I don't see your logic here. I've had to change the clutch slave twice but havn't touched the clutch. You seem to be assuming that the slave won't fail before a clutch needs replacing, but I've heard so many stories of slaves failing very quickly (within 5000 miles) that I can't see how that can be true. I'd rather eliminate the risk by having a piece of kit fitted that was designed to do the job properly.

Boatbuoy

1,941 posts

162 months

Thursday 23rd February 2012
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Getsis said:
How easy is this to change in your own garage?
Car in the air, chassis cradle off, exhaust off, prop shaft & gearbox out, remove starter motor, bell housing out, remove and replace slave cylinder, re-assemble!

It is possible, but do NOT underestimate the task!

a copy of Mark.'s clutch changing guide to hand is a must if you're going to do it.

Gazzab

21,093 posts

282 months

Thursday 23rd February 2012
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Drie to garage of your choice, hand them the fob, return a day later, pick up car, pay bill and enjoy :-)

Robertjp

2,281 posts

225 months

Thursday 23rd February 2012
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Boatbuoy said:
I don't see your logic here. I've had to change the clutch slave twice but havn't touched the clutch. You seem to be assuming that the slave won't fail before a clutch needs replacing, but I've heard so many stories of slaves failing very quickly (within 5000 miles) that I can't see how that can be true. I'd rather eliminate the risk by having a piece of kit fitted that was designed to do the job properly.
You're right, i was assuming they last, which was a little naive, hadnt realised the standard items failed that quickly, from anecdotal evidence i thought the pressure plate was the typical failure....

..so i absolutely see the logic in the raceproved item now...

Getsis

1,537 posts

216 months

Thursday 23rd February 2012
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Boatbuoy said:
Getsis said:
How easy is this to change in your own garage?
Car in the air, chassis cradle off, exhaust off, prop shaft & gearbox out, remove starter motor, bell housing out, remove and replace slave cylinder, re-assemble!

It is possible, but do NOT underestimate the task!

a copy of Mark.'s clutch changing guide to hand is a must if you're going to do it.
More involved than I thought but still not beyond my cababilities. Looks like I will order one for when mine goes, Still fine after nearly 17K miles over 8 years. Where's the guide?

Mark.

11,104 posts

276 months

Thursday 23rd February 2012
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Gazzab said:
Drie to garage of your choice, hand them the fob, return a day later, pick up car, pay bill and enjoy :-)
This, sure it could be done on your back on the garage floor, but I really don't fancy the idea. Different if you have a ramp I guess.