Anything new at Duxford?
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Leven had their demo Griffith 500 fresh from having the TVR bodyshop/Jason Webb headlamp conversion and the Leven new stainless steel grill (black) fitted. Makes the whole car look much more up to date without changing its classic looks. I've just booked mine in for it!
I agree. Same shape light pods but twin spots inside look really good. And, even better, they work (unlike the 9 year old church candles behind the glass on mine).
I'm saving up for mine.
Interms of anything new at Duxford then no....
But we were talking to Richard Beaumont who is the MD of TVR Financial Services who told us to definitely keep our eye on the motorshow ! There will be something new he reckoned.
He also intimated that there was a revised Griffith coming out with the AJP engine in it. Sound familiar ?!?!
Cheers
Mark
But we were talking to Richard Beaumont who is the MD of TVR Financial Services who told us to definitely keep our eye on the motorshow ! There will be something new he reckoned.
He also intimated that there was a revised Griffith coming out with the AJP engine in it. Sound familiar ?!?!
Cheers
Mark
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Leven had their demo Griffith 500 fresh from having the TVR bodyshop/Jason Webb headlamp conversion and the Leven new stainless steel grill (black) fitted. Makes the whole car look much more up to date without changing its classic looks. I've just booked mine in for it!
I agree. Same shape light pods but twin spots inside look really good. And, even better, they work (unlike the 9 year old church candles behind the glass on mine).
I'm saving up for mine.
Saw this for the first time on a car at Zolder. I do not like the Tuscan style lights on the Griffith but also understand the lights are quite poor. This is a really good conversion and does really suit the car. Well impressed to see it again and its definitleyu on the shopping for when I finally find a Griffith I like..
Cheers
Mark
'He also intimated that there was a revised Griffith coming out with the AJP engine in it. Sound familiar ?!?!'
Sounds like 1993 and the 'Griffith Speed Six'... an early attempt to improve something that was already right the first time. I suppose it's the sign of a classic design that if you try to make it better, you end up making it worse.
And if it's not a V8, I don't care how fast it is!
Sounds like 1993 and the 'Griffith Speed Six'... an early attempt to improve something that was already right the first time. I suppose it's the sign of a classic design that if you try to make it better, you end up making it worse.
And if it's not a V8, I don't care how fast it is!
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'He also intimated that there was a revised Griffith coming out with the AJP engine in it. Sound familiar ?!?!'
Sounds like 1993 and the 'Griffith Speed Six'... an early attempt to improve something that was already right the first time. I suppose it's the sign of a classic design that if you try to make it better, you end up making it worse.
And if it's not a V8, I don't care how fast it is!
To clarify he did suggest it would be a V8. I offered the comment that there would need to be significant chassis modification as it wasfelt the first time around that the chassis was not up to the job.
The new car that he intimated to be on show would be in the same price bracket as the Tamora. No shocks there then.
I had heard a rumour that the dealers when asked prior to the Tamora "what can you sell/do you want us to produce " had suggested a car with the new Ford V6 in it at around 25k. We were discussing this and he offered the suggestion of a Ford lump in a car and what did we reckon. Well the 3 of us reckoned the same as the dealers.....you'd shift 100's if given the right price tag as many people do not want 300+ bhp or to spend 35K plus....
I do not think that this would sit comfortably with PW though. Even one of the Kerridges sales team said to me "PW does what he wants, he doesn't care what us dealers think will sell or our ideas"
All encouraging stuff then ....
WHAT a great day . Hope I didn't upset anyone on the runway or choke anybody with the smoke, sometimes you just have to have fun.
Obviously not many people saw the NEW NITRON GAS MONO ADJUSTABLE DAMPERS we were showing for the first time PITY they look great and perform even better. MANY THANKS TO ALL THE ORGANISERS.
Obviously not many people saw the NEW NITRON GAS MONO ADJUSTABLE DAMPERS we were showing for the first time PITY they look great and perform even better. MANY THANKS TO ALL THE ORGANISERS.
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I had heard a rumour that the dealers when asked prior to the Tamora "what can you sell/do you want us to produce " had suggested a car with the new Ford V6 in it at around 25k. We were discussing this and he offered the suggestion of a Ford lump in a car and what did we reckon. Well the 3 of us reckoned the same as the dealers.....you'd shift 100's if given the right price tag as many people do not want 300+ bhp or to spend 35K plus....
The Tamora does not look as though it were in the same league as the Tuscan. In a conversation with 'a person associated with selling TVR's', (dealers' name withheld) it was interesting to hear that Tuscans sell better than Tamora's. I was asked the question, "Would you buy a Tamora at £36K?" my reply was "Not when I could save another £4K and buy a Tuscan". The response from the person concerned was along the lines of many of TVR's customers think along those lines as well, which acounts for the comparatively slow sales of the Tamora.
C'mon TVR, start selling cars in the £25K bracket with a quick, reliable V6 engine along the lines of the Duratec V6. It's just what the Tamora should have been in the first place. We want a TVR which doesn't break the bank, and a car that can be used on holiday in Europe without the worry of wondering if it will break down.
Jas.
>> Edited by Paceracing on Monday 12th August 17:39
I believe the problem with selling a cheaper TVR is that it takes just as many man-hours to make a £25K car as a £35K car. So if you were PW, which would you make? I would dearly like TVR to make an 'entry-level' model to compete in the Elise/MR2/MGF area (and a convertible four seater), but I don't think it will happen. It's logical, but PW ain't logical.
However, you can make you own Tamora. (1) Buy a Griff and an Elise.(2) Get the Elise up to about 60mph and smash it straight up the back of the Griff.
If you can't afford both cars, simply reverse the Griff vigorously into a wall a few times. Oh, and rip most the interior out.
Oops, time to create a diversion and leg it, methinks! Seriously though, I don't care what kind of TVR anyone drives - as long as they enjoy it, that's good enough for me and I can share that enthusiasm.
However, you can make you own Tamora. (1) Buy a Griff and an Elise.(2) Get the Elise up to about 60mph and smash it straight up the back of the Griff.
If you can't afford both cars, simply reverse the Griff vigorously into a wall a few times. Oh, and rip most the interior out.
Oops, time to create a diversion and leg it, methinks! Seriously though, I don't care what kind of TVR anyone drives - as long as they enjoy it, that's good enough for me and I can share that enthusiasm.
TVR has become associated with powerful fast sportscars...
If you are a numpty or a hairdresser there are plenty of suitable cars...
Numpties like slow cars that are reliable and normally oriental...
Hairdressers buy MGFs (not a sports car
) and pretend they belong to their "partner"...
If you are a numpty or a hairdresser there are plenty of suitable cars...
Numpties like slow cars that are reliable and normally oriental...
Hairdressers buy MGFs (not a sports car
) and pretend they belong to their "partner"...quote:
TVR has become associated with powerful fast sportscars...
If you are a numpty or a hairdresser there are plenty of suitable cars...
Numpties like slow cars that are reliable and normally oriental...
Hairdressers buy MGFs (not a sports car
You didn't used to work at Team Central before they went bust did you? It sounds like their sales pitch...
Jas.
Imagine a Ferrari with a GM engine 
That is not the way TVR should go ...
Best is to show reliabilty on the race track, like Porsche several years ago.
And then take the merits from the motorsport and build very fast cars with perfect handling and bulletproved (sp?) engines.
Have a look at the SPA24h Cerbera Speed Six ...
Christof
That is not the way TVR should go ...
Best is to show reliabilty on the race track, like Porsche several years ago.
And then take the merits from the motorsport and build very fast cars with perfect handling and bulletproved (sp?) engines.
Have a look at the SPA24h Cerbera Speed Six ...
Christof
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Imagine a Ferrari with a GM engine
That is not the way TVR should go ...
No I cannot imagine Ferrari with a GM engine, they are fine with the Fiat engines they have got. Mind you if GM buys much more of Fiat then they will have GM engines in them..How ironic.
Anyway how much would it cost to build a Tamora with a Ford V6 in it?
My argument for buying in engines is not really one of reliability, more one of cost, many of us take our TVRs round Europe in boiling hot conditions and they perform faultlessly.
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I believe the problem with selling a cheaper TVR is that it takes just as many man-hours to make a £25K car as a £35K car. So if you were PW, which would you make? I would dearly like TVR to make an 'entry-level' model to compete in the Elise/MR2/MGF area (and a convertible four seater), but I don't think it will happen. It's logical, but PW ain't logical.
However, you can make you own Tamora. (1) Buy a Griff and an Elise.(2) Get the Elise up to about 60mph and smash it straight up the back of the Griff.
If you can't afford both cars, simply reverse the Griff vigorously into a wall a few times. Oh, and rip most the interior out.
Oops, time to create a diversion and leg it, methinks! Seriously though, I don't care what kind of TVR anyone drives - as long as they enjoy it, that's good enough for me and I can share that enthusiasm.
I'm probably wrong but didn't somebody once say it cost about £16K to build a speed 6 engine? If so then a Tamora with a Duratec V6 could realistically come in at around £25-26K. With the savings on the engine and gearbox plus a few other savings in the electronics area the price would be about right.
Any takers?
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