New TVR still under wraps!
Discussion
HarryW said:
Its one of the areas I've asked questions of TVR previously and never got an answer. The standard Coyote is around 435hp and the aluminator 5.0 (high compression Gucci pistons and rods) is around 500hp. What engine have Cosworth been working on? I suspect the base engine.
However you can put the GT350 heads on a 5.0 aluminator or even the 5.2 version of the aluminator (cross plane crank not flat plane as per the Gt350) and get between 540 and 580hp out of the box.
Good information! I am a bit suspicious of graphs that don't start at 1000rpm!However you can put the GT350 heads on a 5.0 aluminator or even the 5.2 version of the aluminator (cross plane crank not flat plane as per the Gt350) and get between 540 and 580hp out of the box.
It will be interesting to see what happens engine wise as there are a lot of variables to balance. I was guessing at bigger cams on the standard engine as a decent hike over and above the standard engine is needed for the 400bhp/ton. But then a large duration cam makes the low rpm manners not so great. Unless you have an individual butterfly per cylinder
. It helps if more flow can be obtained to increase power instead of with bigger cams but that means more expensive parts and also deviated from OEM as Max already said. RichardD said:
It looks to be that YouTube is providing the 480bhp caption that gets shown on the website, so maybe that is wrong (it is dated a week ago too)?
At that level its 384bhp/tonne not the 400 quoted. It is on the official website so you'd think it would be updated if it was wrong. But then we're waiting for a callback from over a week ago so maybe there isn't any depth of staff behind the front.I hope Les manages to get sorted quickly as the opportunity for marketing is now while its still fresh and everyone is talking about it.
FFG
FlipFlopGriff said:
At that level its 384bhp/tonne not the 400 quoted. It is on the official website so you'd think it would be updated if it was wrong. But then we're waiting for a callback from over a week ago so maybe there isn't any depth of staff behind the front.
I hope Les manages to get sorted quickly as the opportunity for marketing is now while its still fresh and everyone is talking about it.
FFG
why?I hope Les manages to get sorted quickly as the opportunity for marketing is now while its still fresh and everyone is talking about it.
FFG
FlipFlopGriff said:
At that level its 384bhp/tonne not the 400 quoted. It is on the official website so you'd think it would be updated if it was wrong. But then we're waiting for a callback from over a week ago so maybe there isn't any depth of staff behind the front.
I hope Les manages to get sorted quickly as the opportunity for marketing is now while its still fresh and everyone is talking about it.
FFG
Sorry my point was that I believe the 480 number isn't on the TVR website in any form. It "passes through" as the title from YouTube.com, so TVR would not be able to edit the number, it would need to be edited on YouTube....I hope Les manages to get sorted quickly as the opportunity for marketing is now while its still fresh and everyone is talking about it.
FFG
(Agree with it wanting to be sorted of course - just think what would happen to an employee of a German car company that wasn't 100.000000% accurate !)
Edmundo2 said:
My previous posts/first reaction comments were that the car looked to have good potential and was a great achievement. I also said I though the colour, cream interior and dodgy wheels weren't doing it any favours but that with a more race bred/bad ass spec it could look great.
Having just seen this months "CAR" magazine article where the car is photographed away from the launch.......I think it looks superb. All nay sayers should take a look asap..I think on the road in the right spec with the addition of "that" soundtrack this could all start making sense. Good luck Les and Co!
Having just seen this months "CAR" magazine article where the car is photographed away from the launch.......I think it looks superb. All nay sayers should take a look asap..I think on the road in the right spec with the addition of "that" soundtrack this could all start making sense. Good luck Les and Co!
RichardD said:
Sorry my point was that I believe the 480 number isn't on the TVR website in any form. It "passes through" as the title from YouTube.com, so TVR would not be able to edit the number, it would need to be edited on YouTube....
(Agree with it wanting to be sorted of course - just think what would happen to an employee of a German car company that wasn't 100.000000% accurate !)
Its a direct link on the TVR web site so yes it is. If they didn't want it there then it shouldn't be. They should the youtube link if its not accurate.(Agree with it wanting to be sorted of course - just think what would happen to an employee of a German car company that wasn't 100.000000% accurate !)
Marketing balls up I suspect. These small items jeopardise credibility.
FFG
FlipFlopGriff said:
Its a direct link on the TVR web site so yes it is. If they didn't want it there then it shouldn't be. They should the youtube link if its not accurate.
Marketing balls up I suspect. These small items jeopardise credibility.
FFG
This is getting pedantic, it is visible on the TVR site of course as you say, but I don't think the data is stored in the same place (i.e. the data is on YouTube not the same server as the rest of the TVR site) - which is what I meant. Marketing balls up I suspect. These small items jeopardise credibility.
FFG
That make sense?
Max_Torque said:
Pretty sure there won't be any engine h/w mods except different exhaust and aftertreatment (because it's only doing low volume SVA not full ETA) and a recal of the engine management (not confirmed if they are sticking with the MBE 9A9 controller, or going to use the OE ecu). The benefit of using a crate engine is the reliability brought by the high volume line build and supply processes, and opening the engine up to swap heads etc would negate most of that bought in reliability.......
ECU on the LE car is a Cosworth module advised at the depositors reveal in March. Cosworth upgrades are dry sump conversion and bespoke ECU. RichardD said:
This is getting pedantic, it is visible on the TVR site of course as you say, but I don't think the data is stored in the same place (i.e. the data is on YouTube not the same server as the rest of the TVR site) - which is what I meant.
That make sense?
Maybe. To anyone going to the TVR site sees this. I've had TVR's for 27 years and got 5 of them currently so a big fan but why display this on the official site if its not right.That make sense?
Newbies looking may be put off without getting further. Got 2 deposits down so want them to succeed.
FFG
FlipFlopGriff said:
Maybe. To anyone going to the TVR site sees this. I've had TVR's for 27 years and got 5 of them currently so a big fan but why display this on the official site if its not right.
Newbies looking may be put off without getting further. Got 2 deposits down so want them to succeed.
FFG
I was just trying to explain how it may not be easy to edit the YouTube content...Newbies looking may be put off without getting further. Got 2 deposits down so want them to succeed.
FFG
Agree of course that the whole issue wants resolving!
RichB said:
Jhonno said:
Because a Chimp/Griff/Tamora/T350 are so wild..?
I didn't mention wildness. I was simply stating my opinion that the front looks bland to me. Edited by RichB on Friday 15th September 19:49
Jhonno said:
This whole thing does remind me of when BMW brought the new Mini out and the Classic Mini owners reactions..
....But unlike the original Mini guys, I don't think there is a single real TVR fan that doesn't want the new iteration of TVR to be a success, irrespective of what some of us may think of the new model upon initial inspection.Big difference there, I think.
chris watton said:
Jhonno said:
This whole thing does remind me of when BMW brought the new Mini out and the Classic Mini owners reactions..
....But unlike the original Mini guys, I don't think there is a single real TVR fan that doesn't want the new iteration of TVR to be a success, irrespective of what some of us may think of the new model upon initial inspection.Big difference there, I think.
Jhonno said:
This whole thing does remind me of when BMW brought the new Mini out and the Classic Mini owners reactions..
Remember when the new Rolls came out? Old Rollers said that new owners couldn't join the club as the new cars weren't Rolls. Same with the DB7. Old Aston owners said they couldn't join the club because they weren't Astons.
It just takes a few cold winters and some sex scandals and the voices die down eventually.
DonkeyApple said:
Remember when the new Rolls came out? Old Rollers said that new owners couldn't join the club as the new cars weren't Rolls.
Same with the DB7. Old Aston owners said they couldn't join the club because they weren't Astons.
It just takes a few cold winters and some sex scandals and the voices die down eventually.
Indeed.Same with the DB7. Old Aston owners said they couldn't join the club because they weren't Astons.
It just takes a few cold winters and some sex scandals and the voices die down eventually.
Just because some existing TVR owners haven’t been totally blown away by the launch car, it doesn’t mean we don’t support the new TVR company or the Griffith itself. I certainly expect them to be welcomed at TVR events, especially track days!
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