New TVR still under wraps!
Discussion
ChrisPap said:
And if anyone cares- I think it looks better and definately more TVR-y on spiders. Would be good to see them make a return:
and I like the photoshop someone did where the vent below the light was painted body colour, or maybe better, if the was a body colour strip covering the empty void of headlight lens between the DLR and the vent.
I was thinking this morning about what makes a typical TVR design, especially in relation to the bland front of the new car. Over the years there has usually been part of the car that was redesigned: the wedges underwent about ten revisions, the S had different bonnets and doors, the Griff had a different grill, the Chimp had a revised grill and lights, the Cerb had revised lights, Tamora revised lights, Tuscan revised grill and they didn't really have time to revise the Sag but the rear end was altered a bit. Was the T350c the only car not to undergo bodywork changes? (not counting the T400/440 as a production car)and I like the photoshop someone did where the vent below the light was painted body colour, or maybe better, if the was a body colour strip covering the empty void of headlight lens between the DLR and the vent.
HairyPoppins said:
rfisher said:
I expect there will be an electric version available at some point.
(I may be joking).
(I may be joking).
All Petrol and Diesel vehicles to be banned in 2040 - so if they survive another 22 years - indeed they'd have to retool a good few years before that so perhaps 15 years ahead there WILL BE an Electric TVR?
feef said:
HairyPoppins said:
rfisher said:
I expect there will be an electric version available at some point.
(I may be joking).
(I may be joking).
All Petrol and Diesel vehicles to be banned in 2040 - so if they survive another 22 years - indeed they'd have to retool a good few years before that so perhaps 15 years ahead there WILL BE an Electric TVR?
The massive V8 will just be for display and track use.
swisstoni said:
feef said:
HairyPoppins said:
rfisher said:
I expect there will be an electric version available at some point.
(I may be joking).
(I may be joking).
All Petrol and Diesel vehicles to be banned in 2040 - so if they survive another 22 years - indeed they'd have to retool a good few years before that so perhaps 15 years ahead there WILL BE an Electric TVR?
The massive V8 will just be for display and track use.
swisstoni said:
feef said:
HairyPoppins said:
rfisher said:
I expect there will be an electric version available at some point.
(I may be joking).
(I may be joking).
All Petrol and Diesel vehicles to be banned in 2040 - so if they survive another 22 years - indeed they'd have to retool a good few years before that so perhaps 15 years ahead there WILL BE an Electric TVR?
The massive V8 will just be for display and track use.
ChrisPap said:
...and I like the photoshop someone did where the vent below the light was painted body colour, or maybe better, if the was a body colour strip covering the empty void of headlight lens between the DLR and the vent.
This was me, I think.Don't you agree about colour coding the sides near the exhaust? Made a big improvement for me and is why I felt that a dark or black car might work better without any extra paint work.
FWIW I think the back (lights/grill) might be the best bits.
TA14 said:
swisstoni said:
feef said:
HairyPoppins said:
rfisher said:
I expect there will be an electric version available at some point.
(I may be joking).
(I may be joking).
All Petrol and Diesel vehicles to be banned in 2040 - so if they survive another 22 years - indeed they'd have to retool a good few years before that so perhaps 15 years ahead there WILL BE an Electric TVR?
The massive V8 will just be for display and track use.
In 20 years time they will have to be screwing the EV users by the kilowatt or whatever to make any real money.
swisstoni said:
Not very much but that's not going to get them much in revenue is it?
In 20 years time they will have to be screwing the EV users by the kilowatt or whatever to make any real money.
Absolutely. If current trends continue then in two decades the tax on petrol, at £30/l or whatever, will be so high that the revenue and use will be close to zero making a ban fairly pointless and as you point out there will have to be a switch to taxing electric cars - mileage travelled on the MoT??In 20 years time they will have to be screwing the EV users by the kilowatt or whatever to make any real money.
AOK said:
ChrisPap said:
Clever tribute, there's a name missing though, depending on your perspective...
Surely there are 2 names missing?1. It's not the done thing to put your own name on your own car- particularly if, as I've read recently, LE is the chair of a consortium, not the sole owner/benefactor, and
2.a) You didn't want a Russian flag on the car or to be associated with Smolenski
b) You didn't think NS had ever actually designed and sold his own car, and his greatest contribution to TVR was selling it.
Is the Russian chapter getting written out of the history books?
As we're all now playing at car designers, I thought I'd fire up GIMP to add some simple mods, see how they look. Below are a few variations for a modified front end (which seems to be the most controversial angle) with a nod to the last Griff's front end styling cues.
Arguably the front end on the last one is not its best angle. Very fish like.
With grill slat.
With Driving lamps
With grill slat and driving lamps.
Although I'm curious to know what happened to the pepper pot grill shown in one of the teaser images. Everyone seems to have forgotten about that....
Arguably the front end on the last one is not its best angle. Very fish like.
With grill slat.
With Driving lamps
With grill slat and driving lamps.
Although I'm curious to know what happened to the pepper pot grill shown in one of the teaser images. Everyone seems to have forgotten about that....
ChrisPap said:
Arguably yes, though I'm guesing:
1. It's not the done thing to put your own name on your own car- particularly if, as I've read recently, LE is the chair of a consortium, not the sole owner/benefactor, and
2.a) You didn't want a Russian flag on the car or to be associated with Smolenski
b) You didn't think NS had ever actually designed and sold his own car, and his greatest contribution to TVR was selling it.
Is the Russian chapter getting written out of the history books?
I'm one of few who has a hell of a lot of respect for Smolenski. Which TVR (of all generations, race cars aside) are currently the most desirable? Smolenski's. Who wanted to introduce efficient production processes and embrace foreign markets big time? Smolenski. Who was up against one of the biggest modern-day recessions? Smolenski.1. It's not the done thing to put your own name on your own car- particularly if, as I've read recently, LE is the chair of a consortium, not the sole owner/benefactor, and
2.a) You didn't want a Russian flag on the car or to be associated with Smolenski
b) You didn't think NS had ever actually designed and sold his own car, and his greatest contribution to TVR was selling it.
Is the Russian chapter getting written out of the history books?
IMO he achieved a lot more than people think, but the cards were stacked truly against him.
AOK said:
I'm one of few who has a hell of a lot of respect for Smolenski. Which TVR (of all generations, race cars aside) are currently the most desirable? Smolenski's. Who wanted to introduce efficient production processes and embrace foreign markets big time? Smolenski. Who was up against one of the biggest modern-day recessions? Smolenski.
IMO he achieved a lot more than people think, but the cards were stacked truly against him.
Who came up with the tag-line 'Orgasmic living' and had it plastered down the side of an otherwise nice Cerbera. Smolensky.IMO he achieved a lot more than people think, but the cards were stacked truly against him.
And didn't he have some TVR-logo'd 'ladies bedroom toys' made up too? Never saw one - best I got was a Wheeler-era TVR logo pen - but certainly a story doing the rounds at the time.
tvrolet said:
AOK said:
I'm one of few who has a hell of a lot of respect for Smolenski. Which TVR (of all generations, race cars aside) are currently the most desirable? Smolenski's. Who wanted to introduce efficient production processes and embrace foreign markets big time? Smolenski. Who was up against one of the biggest modern-day recessions? Smolenski.
IMO he achieved a lot more than people think, but the cards were stacked truly against him.
Who came up with the tag-line 'Orgasmic living' and had it plastered down the side of an otherwise nice Cerbera. Smolensky.IMO he achieved a lot more than people think, but the cards were stacked truly against him.
And didn't he have some TVR-logo'd 'ladies bedroom toys' made up too? Never saw one - best I got was a Wheeler-era TVR logo pen - but certainly a story doing the rounds at the time.
dvs_dave said:
As we're all now playing at car designers, I thought I'd fire up GIMP to add some simple mods, see how they look. Below are a few variations for a modified front end (which seems to be the most controversial angle) with a nod to the last Griff's front end styling cues.
Arguably the front end on the last one is not its best angle. Very fish like.
With grill slat.
With Driving lamps
With grill slat and driving lamps.
Although I'm curious to know what happened to the pepper pot grill shown in one of the teaser images. Everyone seems to have forgotten about that....
No they didn't, see page 166
Arguably the front end on the last one is not its best angle. Very fish like.
With grill slat.
With Driving lamps
With grill slat and driving lamps.
Although I'm curious to know what happened to the pepper pot grill shown in one of the teaser images. Everyone seems to have forgotten about that....
No they didn't, see page 166
DonkeyApple said:
The dyslexic OAK isn't saying the man had any class but he did try and fix the problems created by PW and did preside over the era of the best built cars. The poor lad just suffered from being too young and not having enough money. As well as being a dirty foreigner. Ultimately he bought a bust company and kept it going for a few more years at his own expense.
I concur with most of that Dankey Opple. I'd also argue he kept it going for longer than others could/would have given the economic situation.Edited by AOK on Monday 18th September 20:49
DonkeyApple said:
The dyslexic OAK isn't saying the man had any class but he did try and fix the problems created by PW and did preside over the era of the best built cars. The poor lad just suffered from being too young and not having enough money. As well as being a dirty foreigner. Ultimately he bought a bust company and kept it going for a few more years at his own expense.
I concur with most of that Dankey Opple. I'd also argue he kept it going for longer than others could/would have given the economic situation.Edited by AOK on Monday 18th September 20:49
AOK said:
I concur with most of Dankey Opple. I'd also argue he kept it going for longer than others could/would have given the economic situation.
In the very cold light of day the uncomfortable reality is that there would be a lot fewer T cars around without his money and almost no SagsGassing Station | General TVR Stuff & Gossip | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff