New TVR still under wraps!
Discussion
El stovey said:
Isn’t there are risk that the early cars will have loads wrong with them and an early chassis number will devalue your car. Or have TVR moved away from having the owners doing the testing and development.
Its only the chassis I want as no 9 and not the rest! You can over think things sometimes! I'm one of the later deposit holders so won't get mine until about 300+ in I would have thoughtMoycie said:
Les Edgar... If you’re reading this, you really need to bring this to the market place!Ultra Sound Guy said:
Moycie said:
Les Edgar... If you’re reading this, you really need to bring this to the market place!Ultra Sound Guy said:
Moycie said:
Les Edgar... If you’re reading this, you really need to bring this to the market place!I simply can’t see this ending well at all.
Realistically there won’t be customer cars delivered in 2018. Yes/no?
By 2019 the car landscape will be markedly different.
So many cars that are now over 100k will be available, new launches from mainstream manufacturers, customer expectations will be sky high, a good percentage of the 500 ( doubtful) original investors will have jumped ship, lost interest who knows.
If this were a tiny company producing 20 cars, fair enough, but 500 needs some serious testing, production, design, standards.
The current feedback is largely negative from this forum and these are TVR lovers!
Just can’t see it happening in any meaningful way.
Sorry.
Realistically there won’t be customer cars delivered in 2018. Yes/no?
By 2019 the car landscape will be markedly different.
So many cars that are now over 100k will be available, new launches from mainstream manufacturers, customer expectations will be sky high, a good percentage of the 500 ( doubtful) original investors will have jumped ship, lost interest who knows.
If this were a tiny company producing 20 cars, fair enough, but 500 needs some serious testing, production, design, standards.
The current feedback is largely negative from this forum and these are TVR lovers!
Just can’t see it happening in any meaningful way.
Sorry.
Thankyou4calling said:
I simply can’t see this ending well at all.
Realistically there won’t be customer cars delivered in 2018. Yes/no?
By 2019 the car landscape will be markedly different.
So many cars that are now over 100k will be available, new launches from mainstream manufacturers, customer expectations will be sky high, a good percentage of the 500 ( doubtful) original investors will have jumped ship, lost interest who knows.
If this were a tiny company producing 20 cars, fair enough, but 500 needs some serious testing, production, design, standards.
The current feedback is largely negative from this forum and these are TVR lovers!
Just can’t see it happening in any meaningful way.
Sorry.
If only you had been consulted!Realistically there won’t be customer cars delivered in 2018. Yes/no?
By 2019 the car landscape will be markedly different.
So many cars that are now over 100k will be available, new launches from mainstream manufacturers, customer expectations will be sky high, a good percentage of the 500 ( doubtful) original investors will have jumped ship, lost interest who knows.
If this were a tiny company producing 20 cars, fair enough, but 500 needs some serious testing, production, design, standards.
The current feedback is largely negative from this forum and these are TVR lovers!
Just can’t see it happening in any meaningful way.
Sorry.
I have a deposit down and was told to expect delivery circa March 2020.
This fits perfectly with my own personal set up.
I have seen the new Griffith at Goodwood and thought it was absolutely beautiful. To anyone who hasn't seen it 'in the flesh'..reserve judgement until you have. There are way too many angles to take in and appreciate without physically walking around it at least 5 times...
I don't doubt that it will be built.
It's very easy to source their financiers and the level of funding involved.
I like the quirky updates..suits my warped sense of humour / rebellious nature. Also saves their budget for more pressing issues.
I'm genuinely excited and looking forward to seeing the new factory.
Patience and positivity get things done..
This fits perfectly with my own personal set up.
I have seen the new Griffith at Goodwood and thought it was absolutely beautiful. To anyone who hasn't seen it 'in the flesh'..reserve judgement until you have. There are way too many angles to take in and appreciate without physically walking around it at least 5 times...
I don't doubt that it will be built.
It's very easy to source their financiers and the level of funding involved.
I like the quirky updates..suits my warped sense of humour / rebellious nature. Also saves their budget for more pressing issues.
I'm genuinely excited and looking forward to seeing the new factory.
Patience and positivity get things done..
dvs_dave said:
Only other flat plane crank beyond a Cerb that you’ll have likely heard often is any Ferrari V8 in the last 25 years. Don’t see anyone complaining about them sounding like your local Barry boy’s focus.
Sound aside, I was under the impression that a cruciform NA V8 benefits from an x-pipe as it also improves scavenging over separate 4-1 manifolds which is why it’s done. Boosted/blown hot rod engines it’s not so important, but NA it definitely is. I just can’t help thinking that some performance has been left on the table with what is probably a sub optimal exhaust configuration for this particular application.
Remember the AJP is a 75 degree V so has a unique sound all of its ownSound aside, I was under the impression that a cruciform NA V8 benefits from an x-pipe as it also improves scavenging over separate 4-1 manifolds which is why it’s done. Boosted/blown hot rod engines it’s not so important, but NA it definitely is. I just can’t help thinking that some performance has been left on the table with what is probably a sub optimal exhaust configuration for this particular application.
Add me to the list of deposit down, seen the car, like it and expecting to have to wait for it. I’m a late deposit holder so somewhere in 2020 I expect.
My father placed a deposit on the new engine that Tvr of old were producing in the spring of 1993, that evolved into the Cerbera and was delivered in autumn 1996 - that from an established company with production facilities etc so I for one was expecting a decent gestation period for the new car. Let’s also not forget the the ‘old’ cars should have all been released later than they were, without customers being used as development guinea pigs. We’ve now got 2xCerbs in the family, both have been pulled apart and where possible chocolate parts replaced with decent quality items. The new car is looking to be a different beast and I actually quite like what I’m hearing from the new team, quality components, reliability, development, ground effect!! Personally I would rather wait for the car to be right than risk a return to the days of ‘just bang it out and see’, so 2,3 yrs yep happy with that. Good luck Tvr and Happy Christmas to all.
My father placed a deposit on the new engine that Tvr of old were producing in the spring of 1993, that evolved into the Cerbera and was delivered in autumn 1996 - that from an established company with production facilities etc so I for one was expecting a decent gestation period for the new car. Let’s also not forget the the ‘old’ cars should have all been released later than they were, without customers being used as development guinea pigs. We’ve now got 2xCerbs in the family, both have been pulled apart and where possible chocolate parts replaced with decent quality items. The new car is looking to be a different beast and I actually quite like what I’m hearing from the new team, quality components, reliability, development, ground effect!! Personally I would rather wait for the car to be right than risk a return to the days of ‘just bang it out and see’, so 2,3 yrs yep happy with that. Good luck Tvr and Happy Christmas to all.
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