New TVR still under wraps!
Discussion
BJWoods said:
looks like a (badly/fussy) rehashed Tuscan... why would you want that. each generation of TVR has been new/different/more modern. Styling for styling sake. yuk (would have been fine 15 years ago, but now dated)
It looks just like more of a 20 year old style..(Tuscan 1999) not a modern fresh design for the 21st century. Sure it would appeal to those that just want an updated Sagaris/Tuscan/Typhon.. but that would be terrible for TVR, they need to get new business/customers with something fresh.
The project brief was a facelift within quite limiting confines, it wasn't done just for the hell of it.It looks just like more of a 20 year old style..(Tuscan 1999) not a modern fresh design for the 21st century. Sure it would appeal to those that just want an updated Sagaris/Tuscan/Typhon.. but that would be terrible for TVR, they need to get new business/customers with something fresh.
Testarossa said:
swisstoni said:
In the unlikely event that I attempt to launch a new car I’ll only bother with the front foot or so for the concept model. That seems to be the main thing. 
"I said how hard could it be, well....Anyway, after pouring my sole into it, I am pleased to say it is everything and more than I hoped for. Thanks also to the Schumacher family for the leg up and believing in me when I was close to defeet. Michael, I know heel approve, he said the rear three quarters gave him the horn,
I hope to start production in 2025 and will release updates as and when - let's take it one step at a time.
Toe all you naysayers out there, watch this space!"
L.E. Gear
..sole~destroying...!!!!spagbogdog said:
hyphen said:
bullittmcqueen said:
spagbogdog said:
Get over here at the “FDE’s” Bullitt..I’m pretty sure the ‘final version’ will be just awesome !!
What's "FDE's" ?
But unlikely to work out for me, weekdays impossible, weekends no flights and joyful discussions at home.
bullittmcqueen said:
spagbogdog said:
hyphen said:
bullittmcqueen said:
spagbogdog said:
Get over here at the “FDE’s” Bullitt..I’m pretty sure the ‘final version’ will be just awesome !!
What's "FDE's" ?But unlikely to work out for me, weekdays impossible, weekends no flights and joyful discussions at home.
gotta luv some joyful discussions...
https://ec.europa.eu/commission/sites/beta-politic...
Check slides 29+
Any ideas on how this is going to impact the whole thing ? Or will the big B-word-thing be called off
bullittmcqueen said:
https://ec.europa.eu/commission/sites/beta-politic...
Check slides 29+
Any ideas on how this is going to impact the whole thing ? Or will the big B-word-thing be called off
Would have thought JLR have this covered together with the facts that..Check slides 29+
Any ideas on how this is going to impact the whole thing ? Or will the big B-word-thing be called off
VW own Bentley
BMW own RR
Nissan own the North
Honda own the middle bit
I reckon Les will be alright...
spagbogdog said:
bullittmcqueen said:
https://ec.europa.eu/commission/sites/beta-politic...
Check slides 29+
Any ideas on how this is going to impact the whole thing ? Or will the big B-word-thing be called off
Would have thought JLR have this covered together with the facts that..Check slides 29+
Any ideas on how this is going to impact the whole thing ? Or will the big B-word-thing be called off
VW own Bentley
BMW own RR
Nissan own the North
Honda own the middle bit
I reckon Les will be alright...
bullittmcqueen said:
Not sure, this is going to be extremely hard to figure out. Not necessarily for TVR, but for the entire industry with their -chains and jit-production. Hope transition phase will ensure everything will be alright.
From what I have read the UK will not be seeking any divergence from EU regulations on the automotive industry. Why would they? Things like cars need to be built to the same standard world wide so UK will be happy to agree not to diverge from what are effectively world wide regulations. Now vacuum cleaners on the other hand.....
It’s time to give you an update on what’s happening in the world of TVR.
There’s quite a lot going on at the moment in a number of different areas, so I've broken this email into a few sections.
Buses – none, and then 2:
You may recall that the Welsh Government recently announced they had acquired the building for TVR's new factory facility in Ebbw Vale just before Christmas. As time was ticking on, we decided to acquire some additional space in order to let us get started in advance of the refurb being complete on the main building. I am happy to say that this has now been achieved - close to the the main facility. We have already begun the move from our Guildford development site to the new unit and to configure the building for pre-production builds, pilot builds etc.
ExCeL-ent:
Hopefully you got the recent email from us regarding our presence at the London Motor Show - now in ExCeL between the 17th and 20th May. You may recall it was at this event that we *didn't* unveil the car on a previous occasion! Now, however, not only will the car be there in all its glory, but so will we, and we will particularly welcome our depositors attending and will be happy to answer as many questions about the car as possible. We have an allocation of tickets for depositors so please contact us if you would like some - I'd be delighted to see you there!
More than the sum of the Parts:
TVR Parts Ltd, the official supplier of Genuine TVR Parts for the Heritage cars will be opening a brand new 13,000 sqft facility in April. As with the current facility, visitors in person are always welcome
As well as this, TVRPL continue to introduce re-engineered parts which were previously obsolete. Many of these have been made using the original drawings from our own archives, guaranteeing them to maintain the authenticity and thus the value of your car, with over 3600 parts live on the site, approx. 6000 parts listed in the stock database, and information held on some 28,500 parts in total.
The French…
We love 'em! (unless they win in Paris on the 10th - #RBS6Nations!) Our passion for motorsport, and in particular LeMans, has always been evident for all to see. Indeed, many aspects of the design of the new Griffith have been determined with a view to the car performing outstandingly well on track as well as on the road. Our very good friends at Motul (who are the main lubricant sponsor for Le Mans) have invited us to join them for this year's endurance spectacle in La Sarthe. For most of us the event needs no introduction, but for those who have never been, just think of it as a massive gathering of every car ever produced crossing the channel and surprising most of northern France for a weekend. It’s an amazing event, and we would love to see a fantastic turnout of TVR's. We’ll be in touch soon with some very exciting plans along these lines.
Testing…Testing – it’s a wrap
We are doing a lot of it at the moment at our top secret testing location at Dunsfold, although the last couple of weeks have been frustrating due to weather issues – not even a Sag splitter would clear the track! And where’s TC when you need it?! (Joke, by the way..!) You may have also seen the car with a chameleon wrap featured at the Autosport show? Well, you’re forgiven if you thought that this was simply to show what the car could look like in a good ol' TVR retro paint job. It wasn't - not entirely. During the testing procedures, there are a number of tests that have the potential to damage a car's paintwork. The 3M wrap we utilised for the car is an extremely robust material that can absorb knocks from general road debris such as stone chips etc. So this was the motive, and the flip job was a bit of an added bonus and nod to the colour schemes of yore; great way to have a new car every year, by the way, and you have a new car when you take it off after a year or so!
Newton (apples etc.):
So, Torsional Rigidity, eh? What is it and do you care? Well, you should, and we hope you will, because we've put an awful lot of effort into it. This is what it does if applied correctly:
WARNING - Geek Alert..
* Controls critical suspension geometry, enabling good tyre adhesion.
* Provides good driver feedback, making the car feel predictable and controllable.
* Enables optimum tuning of suspension and steering.
* Enhances NVH qualities by reducing rattles and squeaks.
The ideal car would of course be 100% torsionally rigid, that is to say the chassis would not twist in its length as you go over undulations in the road surface - the suspension is supposed to take care of all the bumpy bits. We're currently carrying out the physical test at GMD where they take no Nm prisoners, and are expecting great things. The computer simulation shows that it should be very good indeed (several hundred percent better than the Sags and T-cars of the past, which themselves were renowned for being race-car stiff) and right up there with, if not ahead of, the current class-leaders. For those of you that know what torsional rigidity is, skip this next section, but for those that wonder read on. Firstly imagine fixing solid links instead of shock absorbers and springs, and then imagine sticking a pole directly through the centreline of both front and rear wheel pairs, side to side. If the rear pole is then secured solidly in a huge vice, whilst the front one is loaded on one side with weights, the chassis will try to twist in its length between the front and rear. The amount of weight required to make the front deflect by one degree in relation to the rear will give a torsional rigidity value that is measured in Newton metres per degree (Nm/degree) So, the higher the value, the stiffer the chassis which is the desired result - now, where did I leave that scaffold pole, ten tonne weight, and all the bragging rights..!
I need More Power, Scottie:
Actually you probably don’t need it, but like all of us you probably do want it....and we’re going to give it to you! We are now able to reveal that we will be supplying the first cars off the line fitted with the new direct injection version of the Coyote engine from the outset. We have embarked on a programme to ensure the engine is fully compatible with all our requirements. It comes with a significant power uplift ‘out of the box’, but as you know, it’s more about control of the power (i.e. delivery, torque curve etc.) than the absolute power itself (although that promises to be ‘more than adequate'!).
This new generation 3 engine has a number of advanced features, as in addition to being both high pressure (direct) and low pressure (port) injected, it is of higher compression too. This combined with the latest state-of-the-art engine management for its sixteen (yes 16!) injectors, now liberates even more horsepower and torque than previous versions, whilst being even more efficient in the process. As the very latest incarnation of the Coyote base motor, the Cosworth developed dry-sump and other enhancements will also carry over to the new power plant with minimal effort, so another win-win for Launch Edition Griffith owners.
Customer Events:
We know that lots of you who haven’t been able to make the events to date are very keen to see the car in the flesh – we have a number of events in the pipeline for you to get up close and personal with the car – we will announce the first of these in the next few weeks.
Questionnaire:
We will shortly circulate a brief questionnaire to all deposit holders and would be very grateful if you could find a few moments to complete it and return to us. This will help us with some additional insight into customer preferences prior to confirming the final specifications.
Well that about wraps it up for the moment, but in closing I can tell you that we have some blockbusting news just around the corner – we can’t share it just yet, but there will be more to come on the subject in a few short weeks’ time – we hope you’ll be as excited as we are!
Meanwhile, all best wishes from us all at TVR,
Les
Les Edgar
Chairman
TVR Manufacturing Ltd
There’s quite a lot going on at the moment in a number of different areas, so I've broken this email into a few sections.
Buses – none, and then 2:
You may recall that the Welsh Government recently announced they had acquired the building for TVR's new factory facility in Ebbw Vale just before Christmas. As time was ticking on, we decided to acquire some additional space in order to let us get started in advance of the refurb being complete on the main building. I am happy to say that this has now been achieved - close to the the main facility. We have already begun the move from our Guildford development site to the new unit and to configure the building for pre-production builds, pilot builds etc.
ExCeL-ent:
Hopefully you got the recent email from us regarding our presence at the London Motor Show - now in ExCeL between the 17th and 20th May. You may recall it was at this event that we *didn't* unveil the car on a previous occasion! Now, however, not only will the car be there in all its glory, but so will we, and we will particularly welcome our depositors attending and will be happy to answer as many questions about the car as possible. We have an allocation of tickets for depositors so please contact us if you would like some - I'd be delighted to see you there!
More than the sum of the Parts:
TVR Parts Ltd, the official supplier of Genuine TVR Parts for the Heritage cars will be opening a brand new 13,000 sqft facility in April. As with the current facility, visitors in person are always welcome
As well as this, TVRPL continue to introduce re-engineered parts which were previously obsolete. Many of these have been made using the original drawings from our own archives, guaranteeing them to maintain the authenticity and thus the value of your car, with over 3600 parts live on the site, approx. 6000 parts listed in the stock database, and information held on some 28,500 parts in total.
The French…
We love 'em! (unless they win in Paris on the 10th - #RBS6Nations!) Our passion for motorsport, and in particular LeMans, has always been evident for all to see. Indeed, many aspects of the design of the new Griffith have been determined with a view to the car performing outstandingly well on track as well as on the road. Our very good friends at Motul (who are the main lubricant sponsor for Le Mans) have invited us to join them for this year's endurance spectacle in La Sarthe. For most of us the event needs no introduction, but for those who have never been, just think of it as a massive gathering of every car ever produced crossing the channel and surprising most of northern France for a weekend. It’s an amazing event, and we would love to see a fantastic turnout of TVR's. We’ll be in touch soon with some very exciting plans along these lines.
Testing…Testing – it’s a wrap
We are doing a lot of it at the moment at our top secret testing location at Dunsfold, although the last couple of weeks have been frustrating due to weather issues – not even a Sag splitter would clear the track! And where’s TC when you need it?! (Joke, by the way..!) You may have also seen the car with a chameleon wrap featured at the Autosport show? Well, you’re forgiven if you thought that this was simply to show what the car could look like in a good ol' TVR retro paint job. It wasn't - not entirely. During the testing procedures, there are a number of tests that have the potential to damage a car's paintwork. The 3M wrap we utilised for the car is an extremely robust material that can absorb knocks from general road debris such as stone chips etc. So this was the motive, and the flip job was a bit of an added bonus and nod to the colour schemes of yore; great way to have a new car every year, by the way, and you have a new car when you take it off after a year or so!
Newton (apples etc.):
So, Torsional Rigidity, eh? What is it and do you care? Well, you should, and we hope you will, because we've put an awful lot of effort into it. This is what it does if applied correctly:
WARNING - Geek Alert..
* Controls critical suspension geometry, enabling good tyre adhesion.
* Provides good driver feedback, making the car feel predictable and controllable.
* Enables optimum tuning of suspension and steering.
* Enhances NVH qualities by reducing rattles and squeaks.
The ideal car would of course be 100% torsionally rigid, that is to say the chassis would not twist in its length as you go over undulations in the road surface - the suspension is supposed to take care of all the bumpy bits. We're currently carrying out the physical test at GMD where they take no Nm prisoners, and are expecting great things. The computer simulation shows that it should be very good indeed (several hundred percent better than the Sags and T-cars of the past, which themselves were renowned for being race-car stiff) and right up there with, if not ahead of, the current class-leaders. For those of you that know what torsional rigidity is, skip this next section, but for those that wonder read on. Firstly imagine fixing solid links instead of shock absorbers and springs, and then imagine sticking a pole directly through the centreline of both front and rear wheel pairs, side to side. If the rear pole is then secured solidly in a huge vice, whilst the front one is loaded on one side with weights, the chassis will try to twist in its length between the front and rear. The amount of weight required to make the front deflect by one degree in relation to the rear will give a torsional rigidity value that is measured in Newton metres per degree (Nm/degree) So, the higher the value, the stiffer the chassis which is the desired result - now, where did I leave that scaffold pole, ten tonne weight, and all the bragging rights..!
I need More Power, Scottie:
Actually you probably don’t need it, but like all of us you probably do want it....and we’re going to give it to you! We are now able to reveal that we will be supplying the first cars off the line fitted with the new direct injection version of the Coyote engine from the outset. We have embarked on a programme to ensure the engine is fully compatible with all our requirements. It comes with a significant power uplift ‘out of the box’, but as you know, it’s more about control of the power (i.e. delivery, torque curve etc.) than the absolute power itself (although that promises to be ‘more than adequate'!).
This new generation 3 engine has a number of advanced features, as in addition to being both high pressure (direct) and low pressure (port) injected, it is of higher compression too. This combined with the latest state-of-the-art engine management for its sixteen (yes 16!) injectors, now liberates even more horsepower and torque than previous versions, whilst being even more efficient in the process. As the very latest incarnation of the Coyote base motor, the Cosworth developed dry-sump and other enhancements will also carry over to the new power plant with minimal effort, so another win-win for Launch Edition Griffith owners.
Customer Events:
We know that lots of you who haven’t been able to make the events to date are very keen to see the car in the flesh – we have a number of events in the pipeline for you to get up close and personal with the car – we will announce the first of these in the next few weeks.
Questionnaire:
We will shortly circulate a brief questionnaire to all deposit holders and would be very grateful if you could find a few moments to complete it and return to us. This will help us with some additional insight into customer preferences prior to confirming the final specifications.
Well that about wraps it up for the moment, but in closing I can tell you that we have some blockbusting news just around the corner – we can’t share it just yet, but there will be more to come on the subject in a few short weeks’ time – we hope you’ll be as excited as we are!
Meanwhile, all best wishes from us all at TVR,
Les
Les Edgar
Chairman
TVR Manufacturing Ltd
Well that about wraps it up for the moment, but in closing I can tell you that we have some blockbusting news just around the corner – we can’t share it just yet, but there will be more to come on the subject in a few short weeks’ time – we hope you’ll be as excited as we are!
That Les is such a tease....!!!
That Les is such a tease....!!!
new gen 3 coyote engine has 460 bhp standard.....
http://www.enginelabs.com/news/a-peek-inside-the-2...
http://www.enginelabs.com/news/a-peek-inside-the-2...
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