New TVR still under wraps!
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Have to comment on this post re the news in the announcement
1) 'That the price of the LE car is fixed and OTR price'- think LE stands for Les Edgar!
2) 'The price of the standard car & price with full options'- All pricing is based on a business model of 1500 cars plus a year-Thats a huge number- lotus produce 1300 cars and dont make money.
3) 'Confirmed when factory will be available'- incorrect as there is an issue at government level in wales
4) 'Confirmed when we will know our build slots'- totally weird request and for the companies benefit!
5) 'Confirmed survey out in next couple of weeks'- Well we wll see but track record doesnt bode well!
6) 'Feedback from experienced driver on how car handles'- give it to someone independant for a review- its suspicious how they havent really let anyone drive it
7) 'News of significant development in production numbers/markets'- the business model is wrong and they are reviewing !
8) 'That there will be options on car regarding media package'.- should be standard these days
9) 'Confirmation of when next update will be and what it will be about'.- so now we have got to the position where the pre announce a future announcement!
sorry to be so scathing but its farcical !
1) 'That the price of the LE car is fixed and OTR price'- think LE stands for Les Edgar!
2) 'The price of the standard car & price with full options'- All pricing is based on a business model of 1500 cars plus a year-Thats a huge number- lotus produce 1300 cars and dont make money.
3) 'Confirmed when factory will be available'- incorrect as there is an issue at government level in wales
4) 'Confirmed when we will know our build slots'- totally weird request and for the companies benefit!
5) 'Confirmed survey out in next couple of weeks'- Well we wll see but track record doesnt bode well!
6) 'Feedback from experienced driver on how car handles'- give it to someone independant for a review- its suspicious how they havent really let anyone drive it
7) 'News of significant development in production numbers/markets'- the business model is wrong and they are reviewing !
8) 'That there will be options on car regarding media package'.- should be standard these days
9) 'Confirmation of when next update will be and what it will be about'.- so now we have got to the position where the pre announce a future announcement!
sorry to be so scathing but its farcical !
TVRs have always held their value well compared with the competition, partly because they were cheap to start with and also for the bang per buck. I bought a six year old cerb for 45% of its new price (most cars lose that in 3 or 4 years) and it’s probably now worth >50%. I foresee the LE griff as doing the same. If it delivers half of what’s been promised I can’t see the early adopters losing much in the medium term regardless of whether it all goes tits up or becomes a huge success. If I was a deposit holder I would be holding out.
AUTODESIGN said:
Have to comment on this post re the news in the announcement
1) 'That the price of the LE car is fixed and OTR price'- think LE stands for Les Edgar!
2) 'The price of the standard car & price with full options'- All pricing is based on a business model of 1500 cars plus a year-Thats a huge number- lotus produce 1300 cars and dont make money.
3) 'Confirmed when factory will be available'- incorrect as there is an issue at government level in wales
4) 'Confirmed when we will know our build slots'- totally weird request and for the companies benefit!
5) 'Confirmed survey out in next couple of weeks'- Well we wll see but track record doesnt bode well!
6) 'Feedback from experienced driver on how car handles'- give it to someone independant for a review- its suspicious how they havent really let anyone drive it
7) 'News of significant development in production numbers/markets'- the business model is wrong and they are reviewing !
8) 'That there will be options on car regarding media package'.- should be standard these days
9) 'Confirmation of when next update will be and what it will be about'.- so now we have got to the position where the pre announce a future announcement!
sorry to be so scathing but its farcical !
*SIGH*1) 'That the price of the LE car is fixed and OTR price'- think LE stands for Les Edgar!
2) 'The price of the standard car & price with full options'- All pricing is based on a business model of 1500 cars plus a year-Thats a huge number- lotus produce 1300 cars and dont make money.
3) 'Confirmed when factory will be available'- incorrect as there is an issue at government level in wales
4) 'Confirmed when we will know our build slots'- totally weird request and for the companies benefit!
5) 'Confirmed survey out in next couple of weeks'- Well we wll see but track record doesnt bode well!
6) 'Feedback from experienced driver on how car handles'- give it to someone independant for a review- its suspicious how they havent really let anyone drive it
7) 'News of significant development in production numbers/markets'- the business model is wrong and they are reviewing !
8) 'That there will be options on car regarding media package'.- should be standard these days
9) 'Confirmation of when next update will be and what it will be about'.- so now we have got to the position where the pre announce a future announcement!
sorry to be so scathing but its farcical !
Jhonno said:
TwinKam said:
As I understand it: (please forgive/correct errors)
There once was an engine building company in Coventry (specialising in Suzuki IIRC?) that TVR used to develop and stretch the RV8s. The work grew to such a level that they were incorporated into TVR under the name TVR Power, later also building the AJP V8s and S6s.
After the collapse of TVR, TVR Power (Dom) bought his company back from Smolenski and continued the TVR work.
Under the new Les Edgar regime, they couldn't/wouldn't agree terms with TVR, hence had to change their name, now known Powers Performance.
This.There once was an engine building company in Coventry (specialising in Suzuki IIRC?) that TVR used to develop and stretch the RV8s. The work grew to such a level that they were incorporated into TVR under the name TVR Power, later also building the AJP V8s and S6s.
After the collapse of TVR, TVR Power (Dom) bought his company back from Smolenski and continued the TVR work.
Under the new Les Edgar regime, they couldn't/wouldn't agree terms with TVR, hence had to change their name, now known Powers Performance.
t loads of money and he screwed my balls to the ground and charged me an extortionate licence fee for my own success from 2006 to 2009 i then bought him out, i was always told you must create a new brand as Rusky wouldn't sell the Brand "Tvr Power" but in fairness he did offer me the whole Tvr Brand for free but i declined as it was far to big for me... PowersPerformance was created and it was the best move i ever did... i declined signing up to the New Tvr dealer Network purley on the basis we are leaders NOT followers , im a true believer competition is healthy for businesses so watch this Space Ladies & Gentlemen
Dom
essexstu said:
So TVR (at last) issue a lengthy update to deposit holders covering specifications, pricing, ground affect, new factory, furture updates, position in queue, driver feedback etc and still several negative posts saying car is ugly, won't sell, won't be built, is a load of waffle and so on.
What a miserable bunch of cynics you are!
I agree, it was a pleasant update with a lot of information and good to know progress albeit interim. Seems a lot is happening.What a miserable bunch of cynics you are!
essexstu said:
swisstoni said:
I do wonder about these eventual purchasers of a £90k motor who are currently bricking it about whether their precious £5k is in jeapoardy 
TVR has done nothing, absolutely nothing, to suggest that deposits are not safe or they are running out of funds. Several on here have asked for their deposits to be returned and ALL have had a refund in full without delay or aggravation. It is disingenuous to imply or infer that TVR are not being anything but honest and honourable.
I’m having a laugh at £90k car buyers worrying about £5k. I hope they don’t dabble in the stock market. You can be down that much before breakfast.
I don’t know if this is 100% confirmed / genuine yet, but an updated car list for the upcoming Forza Horizon 4 has come to light, and they seem to have added the new Griffith!
https://www.reddit.com/r/forza/comments/97qsbs/for...
Good news if it’s true IMO, just a good bit of publicity if nothing else
https://www.reddit.com/r/forza/comments/97qsbs/for...
Good news if it’s true IMO, just a good bit of publicity if nothing else
N7GTX said:
Okay, so the tuning is being done under the name TVR Power. I now know its not Powers Performance or Doms Power etc - thanks to the above input - so what is this company? I thought all the upgrades and tweaks were being done by Cosworth 
That's my confusion, Cosworth v TVR Power? TVR Power was a strong brand name under Dom in the Wheeler/Moleskins period, but Dom's since gone his own way. My super sports exhausts are from TVR Power as it was.PowersPerformance said:
Bit of a kick in the teeth as i originally created the name Tvr Power after coming from Ford Power (Andy Rouse) British Touring Champion, when the Russian took over in 2004 we made him st loads of money and he screwed my balls to the ground and charged me an extortionate licence fee for my own success from 2006 to 2009 i then bought him out, i was always told you must create a new brand as Rusky wouldn't sell the Brand "Tvr Power" but in fairness he did offer me the whole Tvr Brand for free but i declined as it was far to big for me... PowersPerformance was created and it was the best move i ever did...
i declined signing up to the New Tvr dealer Network purley on the basis we are leaders NOT followers , im a true believer competition is healthy for businesses so watch this Space Ladies & Gentlemen
Dom
More power (pun intended) to your elbow, Dom!t loads of money and he screwed my balls to the ground and charged me an extortionate licence fee for my own success from 2006 to 2009 i then bought him out, i was always told you must create a new brand as Rusky wouldn't sell the Brand "Tvr Power" but in fairness he did offer me the whole Tvr Brand for free but i declined as it was far to big for me... PowersPerformance was created and it was the best move i ever did... i declined signing up to the New Tvr dealer Network purley on the basis we are leaders NOT followers , im a true believer competition is healthy for businesses so watch this Space Ladies & Gentlemen
Dom
smithyithy said:
I don’t know if this is 100% confirmed / genuine yet, but an updated car list for the upcoming Forza Horizon 4 has come to light, and they seem to have added the new Griffith!
https://www.reddit.com/r/forza/comments/97qsbs/for...
Good news if it’s true IMO, just a good bit of publicity if nothing else
That’s great news.https://www.reddit.com/r/forza/comments/97qsbs/for...
Good news if it’s true IMO, just a good bit of publicity if nothing else
julianc said:
N7GTX said:
Okay, so the tuning is being done under the name TVR Power. I now know its not Powers Performance or Doms Power etc - thanks to the above input - so what is this company? I thought all the upgrades and tweaks were being done by Cosworth
That's my confusion, Cosworth v TVR Power? TVR Power was a strong brand name under Dom in the Wheeler/Moleskins period, but Dom's since gone his own way. My super sports exhausts are from TVR Power as it was.
Edited by m4tti on Thursday 16th August 12:53
julianc said:
N7GTX said:
Okay, so the tuning is being done under the name TVR Power. I now know its not Powers Performance or Doms Power etc - thanks to the above input - so what is this company? I thought all the upgrades and tweaks were being done by Cosworth
That's my confusion, Cosworth v TVR Power? TVR Power was a strong brand name under Dom in the Wheeler/Moleskins period, but Dom's sin ce gone his own way. My super sports exhausts are from TVR Power as it was.Good to finally see what LE spec is Vs standard spec car. And price differential..
LE spec cars would appear to have £35k worth of options,for only £10k over the standard car..
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Standard car £79k but optioned up would cost £115k.. and not all the LE spec will be able to be optioned up on the standard car..
LE spec cars would appear to have £35k worth of options,for only £10k over the standard car..
!!
Standard car £79k but optioned up would cost £115k.. and not all the LE spec will be able to be optioned up on the standard car..
Edited by BJWoods on Thursday 16th August 19:22
VULCANT said:
Shmee - anything you know that we mere mortals don’t??
I'm late catching up with the thread as I've been flat-out for the last 2 weeks but I guess we know a lot more now than when you made that post!However, I would love to film something with the car in some form - which would of course have the upshot of some deserved exposure so I'll get chasing and see what's possible.
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