New TVR still under wraps!
Discussion
BJWoods said:
All three are fine by me..
Much as it pains me to say - if all 3 were coming fresh from the production line today, Les's would be my 3rd choice 
Just writing the above upsets me - The Sagaris is truly what Satan would drive, the griffith is what he would take when trying to impress a lady friend and Les's is the courtesy car he would get when the other 2 went in for servicing.
Testarossa said:
Much as it pains me to say - if all 3 were coming fresh from the production line today, Les's would be my 3rd choice
Just writing the above upsets me - The Sagaris is truly what Satan would drive, the griffith is what he would take when trying to impress a lady friend and Les's is the courtesy car he would get when the other 2 went in for servicing.
My Griff would be left for dust by both.. The New Griffith leaving the Sagaris behind...Just writing the above upsets me - The Sagaris is truly what Satan would drive, the griffith is what he would take when trying to impress a lady friend and Les's is the courtesy car he would get when the other 2 went in for servicing.
BJWoods said:
bomb said:
the rear spoiler has gone.
not gone. in down position.But at least from the photos it doesn't look down, but totally gone. The new lid seems to be one piece and there are no visible lines. Guess the mechanism is still in the works and they simply wanted to show it without spoiler (as i am sure it will be there in the final car).
bullittmcqueen said:
Very cool pics, thanks. Great to see it without it at last.
But at least from the photos it doesn't look down, but totally gone. The new lid seems to be one piece and there are no visible lines. Guess the mechanism is still in the works and they simply wanted to show it without spoiler (as i am sure it will be there in the final car).
Zoom in.. a very visible line.. seen in personBut at least from the photos it doesn't look down, but totally gone. The new lid seems to be one piece and there are no visible lines. Guess the mechanism is still in the works and they simply wanted to show it without spoiler (as i am sure it will be there in the final car).
BJWoods said:
spagbogdog said:
...more wotcha do with it eh BJ...
...have to say I think it’s lookin’ better by the day
another photo..
Very nice BJ !!
Great video btw...
I was thinking of a non-retractable LM type spoiler but might justa changed me mind (again) !
My wife and I took a visit to Gatton Manor golf club today to see the new TVR.
The weather was beautiful, sunshine, highlighting all the cars on display there.
There were wedges, chims, griffs, T350s and a couple of sags.
All the cars were beautifully turned out and excelled in their looks as classic TVRs.
The new Griff. Like a few people have said before, see it in the flesh and it really makes sense. I really couldn’t fault it, it looked perfect in this setting amongst its older siblings.
Its lines, stance , colour and size all coordinated really well.
Compare it to the Porsche Turbo S’s that were there and it really stands out.
People complain that it isn’t like a sag, of course not it is a modern car fit for this time.
When you see all these cars together side-by-side you realise that a wedge looks 1970s , a chim and a griff look dated, the T350 and sag look good but still of a decade+ in the past and the new griff looks and is bang up to date.
Given the choice, give me the new griff keys any day.
Those who say they prefer the old griff need to have their heads examined!
Right, I’m off to put the finishing touches to the new outriggers that I’ve fitted on my dated 400 horse chim........
The weather was beautiful, sunshine, highlighting all the cars on display there.
There were wedges, chims, griffs, T350s and a couple of sags.
All the cars were beautifully turned out and excelled in their looks as classic TVRs.
The new Griff. Like a few people have said before, see it in the flesh and it really makes sense. I really couldn’t fault it, it looked perfect in this setting amongst its older siblings.
Its lines, stance , colour and size all coordinated really well.
Compare it to the Porsche Turbo S’s that were there and it really stands out.
People complain that it isn’t like a sag, of course not it is a modern car fit for this time.
When you see all these cars together side-by-side you realise that a wedge looks 1970s , a chim and a griff look dated, the T350 and sag look good but still of a decade+ in the past and the new griff looks and is bang up to date.
Given the choice, give me the new griff keys any day.
Those who say they prefer the old griff need to have their heads examined!
Right, I’m off to put the finishing touches to the new outriggers that I’ve fitted on my dated 400 horse chim........
All the cars were beautifully turned out and excelled in their looks as classic TVRs.
The new Griff. Like a few people have said before, see it in the flesh and it really makes sense. I really couldn’t fault it, it looked perfect in this setting amongst its older siblings.
Its lines, stance , colour and size all coordinated really well.
Compare it to the Porsche Turbo S’s that were there and it really stands out.
People complain that it isn’t like a sag, of course not it is a modern car fit for this time.
When you see all these cars together side-by-side you realise that a wedge looks 1970s , a chim and a griff look dated, the T350 and sag look good but still of a decade+ in the past and the new griff looks and is bang up to date.
Given the choice, give me the new griff keys any day.
Those who say they prefer the old griff need to have their heads examined!
EXACTLY!!
I totally agree with you.... TVR's of the past are exactly that, and classics for what they are... cars of their era... This is a TVR for today which has to be a little less extreme than of old. TVR today has to be a viable business and can't survive as the niche of old. Of course the car isn't for everyone.. why would it be...same applies to all cars! The tendency is for the happy deposit holders to just sit back, relax and quietly get excited about whats coming, whilst those with a grudge tend to vent online and some may talk it down to justify their decision. I'd ask when you have seen it for real did it positively surprise you? It did for me... massively!!!
I'd got hung up on the negativity here which has now all but been forgotten.. as with all cars some angles appeal more to me than others and thats personal....The new car to me has definitely got it... next stage how does it go.... well I will eat my hat if Gordon Murray lets us down on that one...... Seems once the first customer car rolls out the factory we have a very desirable TVR.... for many but not all!
The new Griff. Like a few people have said before, see it in the flesh and it really makes sense. I really couldn’t fault it, it looked perfect in this setting amongst its older siblings.
Its lines, stance , colour and size all coordinated really well.
Compare it to the Porsche Turbo S’s that were there and it really stands out.
People complain that it isn’t like a sag, of course not it is a modern car fit for this time.
When you see all these cars together side-by-side you realise that a wedge looks 1970s , a chim and a griff look dated, the T350 and sag look good but still of a decade+ in the past and the new griff looks and is bang up to date.
Given the choice, give me the new griff keys any day.
Those who say they prefer the old griff need to have their heads examined!
EXACTLY!!
I totally agree with you.... TVR's of the past are exactly that, and classics for what they are... cars of their era... This is a TVR for today which has to be a little less extreme than of old. TVR today has to be a viable business and can't survive as the niche of old. Of course the car isn't for everyone.. why would it be...same applies to all cars! The tendency is for the happy deposit holders to just sit back, relax and quietly get excited about whats coming, whilst those with a grudge tend to vent online and some may talk it down to justify their decision. I'd ask when you have seen it for real did it positively surprise you? It did for me... massively!!!
I'd got hung up on the negativity here which has now all but been forgotten.. as with all cars some angles appeal more to me than others and thats personal....The new car to me has definitely got it... next stage how does it go.... well I will eat my hat if Gordon Murray lets us down on that one...... Seems once the first customer car rolls out the factory we have a very desirable TVR.... for many but not all!
Graham007 said:
The tendency is for the happy deposit holders to just sit back, relax and quietly get excited about whats coming, whilst those with a grudge tend to vent online and some may talk it down to justify their decision.
That’s not what’s happening in this thread though. There are deposit holders complaining about the looks (amongst other things) and some even cancelling their deposits. Some deposit holders are just talking it up to justify their decision.
I’ve seen a few TVRs released on here over the years and none have had the ‘mixed’ reception this new car has. Read any article about it online and you hear the same comments. It looks odd at the front and it looks boring. Are they all from people justifying their position?
Looking at those photos, other than a couple of them the new griff really does not photograph well. To me it looks all out of proportion and very ugly. However, I have also seen it in the flesh a couple of times and it does look a hundred times better and more purposeful and aggressive. Still not my favourite design but so much better.
Perhaps a change of colour would allow pictures to look better?
Perhaps a change of colour would allow pictures to look better?
Strikes me that the brief given to the designer was specifically targeted to do one job ‘rather’ well...
...able to go round a track and crush its rivals !
Huge amount of Mclaren similarities in the front..those cars always appear ‘awkward’ in photos..BUT..seen for real they’ve got so much ‘presence’...and different to everything else.
The more I see the new Griff the more I like it..REALLY like it. I’m used to the lights now and don’t want to change that aspect other than to paint the fins the same body colour.
Well done BJ and Phazed..great photos
...able to go round a track and crush its rivals !
Huge amount of Mclaren similarities in the front..those cars always appear ‘awkward’ in photos..BUT..seen for real they’ve got so much ‘presence’...and different to everything else.
The more I see the new Griff the more I like it..REALLY like it. I’m used to the lights now and don’t want to change that aspect other than to paint the fins the same body colour.
Well done BJ and Phazed..great photos
swisstoni said:
If anything, the Sagaris got a worse reception on PH than this new car.
The Tamora got similar treatment. ‘Prolapsed arse’ was a turn of phrase someone used to describe the rear end. That has stayed with me
The Tamora got similar treatment. ‘Prolapsed arse’ was a turn of phrase someone used to describe the rear end. That has stayed with me
Thats certainly not how I remember it but perhaps that’s mine yours or our memories going.
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