New TVR still under wraps!

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Monkeylegend

14,118 posts

167 months

Thursday 6th December
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TVRMs said:
ahpboxster said:
In many ways it is the same speculation that followed the Model 3 Tesla, but deliveries start next year to Europe. They had no factory, lack of supply chain, scaling issues etc etc.

Anything that is not in production always looks more risky.
Tesla did have the funding I guess?
Billions of $'s I would imagine from investors keen to get in early on the electric car revolution in a potentially massive market, as opposed to those maybe not so keen on a gas guzzling V8 petrol engine car in a niche market from a previously failed car manufacturer in the same niche market.

El stovey

24,189 posts

199 months

Thursday 6th December
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Monkeylegend said:
Billions of $'s I would imagine from investors keen to get in early on the electric car revolution in a potentially massive market, as opposed to those maybe not so keen on a gas guzzling V8 petrol engine car in a niche market from a previously failed car manufacturer in the same niche market.
It’s not much like Tesla really is it? hehe

Monkeylegend

14,118 posts

167 months

Thursday 6th December
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El stovey said:
Monkeylegend said:
Billions of $'s I would imagine from investors keen to get in early on the electric car revolution in a potentially massive market, as opposed to those maybe not so keen on a gas guzzling V8 petrol engine car in a niche market from a previously failed car manufacturer in the same niche market.
It’s not much like Tesla really is it? hehe
4 wheels and a steering wheel and that's about it smile

Zeb74

68 posts

65 months

Thursday 6th December
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Monkeylegend said:
Billions of $'s I would imagine from investors keen to get in early on the electric car revolution in a potentially massive market, as opposed to those maybe not so keen on a gas guzzling V8 petrol engine car in a niche market from a previously failed car manufacturer in the same niche market.
First electric cars appeared in 1834, the first v8 in 1903, so the V8 is much more modern and innovative biggrin

Monkeylegend

14,118 posts

167 months

Thursday 6th December
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Zeb74 said:
Monkeylegend said:
Billions of $'s I would imagine from investors keen to get in early on the electric car revolution in a potentially massive market, as opposed to those maybe not so keen on a gas guzzling V8 petrol engine car in a niche market from a previously failed car manufacturer in the same niche market.
First electric cars appeared in 1834, the first v8 in 1903, so the V8 is much more modern and innovative biggrin
That's one way of looking at it hehe

Maybe somebody should tell the eco warriors.
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drlloyd

138 posts

129 months

Thursday 6th December
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Zeb74 said:
First electric cars appeared in 1834, the first v8 in 1903, so the V8 is much more modern and innovative biggrin
Brilliant, that made me chuckle smile

Wacky Racer

30,185 posts

183 months

Thursday 6th December
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unrepentant said:
ahpboxster said:
In many ways it is the same speculation that followed the Model 3 Tesla, but deliveries start next year to Europe. They had no factory, lack of supply chain, scaling issues etc etc.

Anything that is not in production always looks more risky.
It's completely and utterly different. Tesla were making and selling the Model S, the Model X was on line and it's a public company with assets (in 2017) of $28 billion! TVR is an idea with one car, no balance sheet and nothing much else apart from a few million quid of other people's money that has already been spent.

Oh, and the Model 3 is already on the roads here (USA) and has been for a while.
Hi 'rep smile

I know you had a couple of nice TVR's (One caught fire in your drive, I seem to recall), when you lived in God's own county

Just as a matter of interest, if you lived in the UK now, knowing what you know, would you put 5k of your hard earned down for the new car?

spagbogdog

548 posts

196 months

Thursday 6th December
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Autodesign said:
I feel we are almost friends now! havent been on here for a while but it seems that the christmasTVR lights for deposit holders are starting to come on! The realization that deposits arent safe, lack of funding, potentially no factory/ delays for 2 years etc etc.My personal opinion is Les wont let deposit holders lose out and i have a hunch he will foot the bill. But i fear in the short term the reality is that the company only has a few hundred k in the bank and not enough funds to return to deposit holders.In short they are in a pickle and it gets worse day by day. When you get the national news picking up on things its really bad! Oh and where is the big announcement?! - There isnt one!Well i think there is but its not the one everyone is expecting.
You still have not answered my prior questions..?
The reason...
Because you know nothing !
Everything you come out with is guesswork and idle speculation.
Please stop and get on with playing with your Lego.

Monkeylegend

14,118 posts

167 months

Thursday 6th December
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spagbogdog said:
Autodesign said:
I feel we are almost friends now! havent been on here for a while but it seems that the christmasTVR lights for deposit holders are starting to come on! The realization that deposits arent safe, lack of funding, potentially no factory/ delays for 2 years etc etc.My personal opinion is Les wont let deposit holders lose out and i have a hunch he will foot the bill. But i fear in the short term the reality is that the company only has a few hundred k in the bank and not enough funds to return to deposit holders.In short they are in a pickle and it gets worse day by day. When you get the national news picking up on things its really bad! Oh and where is the big announcement?! - There isnt one!Well i think there is but its not the one everyone is expecting.
You still have not answered my prior questions..?
The reason...
Because you know nothing !
Everything you come out with is guesswork and idle speculation.
Please stop and get on with playing with your Lego.
So in order to state this you presumably know what the actual situations is then, so please tell.

If not, which I guess is the case, your view is no more valid than anybody else's and this is an open forum, so stop trying to stifle the aspects of the debate you don't like.

Penelope Stopit

3,374 posts

45 months

Thursday 6th December
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Monkeylegend said:
So in order to state this you presumably know what the actual situations is then, so please tell.

If not, which I guess is the case your view is no more valid than anybody else's and this is an open forum, so stop trying to stifle the aspects of the debate you don't like.
Have you read all the post's?

Monkeylegend

14,118 posts

167 months

Thursday 6th December
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Penelope Stopit said:
Monkeylegend said:
So in order to state this you presumably know what the actual situations is then, so please tell.

If not, which I guess is the case your view is no more valid than anybody else's and this is an open forum, so stop trying to stifle the aspects of the debate you don't like.
Have you read all the post's?
Not all 393 pages , but I do apologise for not having read every word smile

Have you read them all?

V6 Pushfit

9,591 posts

46 months

Thursday 6th December
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What’s bloody sad about this is the hard won deposits are being returned but by bit.


Jhonno

3,238 posts

77 months

Thursday 6th December
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V6 Pushfit said:
What’s bloody sad about this is the hard won deposits are being returned but by bit.
As I am sure is what happens with any new car that takes deposits early on..

baconsarney

8,640 posts

97 months

Thursday 6th December
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So, thought I'd have a look at https://www.tvr.co.uk as I've not visited for a while. It says it's accepting deposits, but it still has no news or update pages, and looks to have not been updated at all during 2018.

Now, I didn't put a deposit down, for a number of reasons, but, I was totally behind the venture, it was something exciting.. I've had involvement with TVR's since I worked for Caterham in 1970 (they were a TVR main agent back then), and I've now owned my Chim for nearly 9 years, and met a lot of great people as a result smile

I still seriously hope the current 'issues' are resolved, and all the guys and gals who've put deposits down do get their dream car soon....

I would just say though, that what appears (to me) to be a lack of information coming out of the venture is very, very disappointing, and is (IMO) seriously damaging the credibility and public face of the organisation and its leadership team.

Maybe the deposit holders are getting info from the company the rest of us aren't...

Anyhoo, Les, if you read this, for Gods sake speak up......... you still have massive support at the moment....

spagbogdog

548 posts

196 months

Thursday 6th December
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Monkeylegend said:
spagbogdog said:
Autodesign said:
I feel we are almost friends now! havent been on here for a while but it seems that the christmasTVR lights for deposit holders are starting to come on! The realization that deposits arent safe, lack of funding, potentially no factory/ delays for 2 years etc etc.My personal opinion is Les wont let deposit holders lose out and i have a hunch he will foot the bill. But i fear in the short term the reality is that the company only has a few hundred k in the bank and not enough funds to return to deposit holders.In short they are in a pickle and it gets worse day by day. When you get the national news picking up on things its really bad! Oh and where is the big announcement?! - There isnt one!Well i think there is but its not the one everyone is expecting.
You still have not answered my prior questions..?
The reason...
Because you know nothing !
Everything you come out with is guesswork and idle speculation.
Please stop and get on with playing with your Lego.
So in order to state this you presumably know what the actual situations is then, so please tell.

If not, which I guess is the case, your view is no more valid than anybody else's and this is an open forum, so stop trying to stifle the aspects of the debate you don't like.
My “case” is to ask AD the same question I asked him 2 weeks ago..when he stated for a fact that he knew the Venture~Capitalists that had turned down TVR.

I ask him again:
Specifically WHO and WHEN..?????????

Monkeylegend

14,118 posts

167 months

Thursday 6th December
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spagbogdog said:
My “case” is to ask AD the same question I asked him 2 weeks ago..when he stated for a fact that he knew the Venture~Capitalists that had turned down TVR.

I ask him again:
Specifically WHO and WHEN..?????????
You also told him to stop posting.

We have read some of your alcohol induced, cringeworthy posts and love poems to your friend Les, but nobody has asked you to stop posting smile

baconsarney

8,640 posts

97 months

Thursday 6th December
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These
'I know stuff you don't'
'You know nothing'
'you're just guessing/speculating'
etc etc....

Really are fecking tiresome/boring/posturing rubbish....

I'd suggest that unless you hear it from Les you're all just guessing/point scoring..

Properly getting on my tits biggrin

Monkeylegend

14,118 posts

167 months

Thursday 6th December
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It's what 's not being said. Radio silence is not a good way of endearing your potential customers in a situation like we have currently. It does lead to speculation and people will always draw maybe the wrong conclusions, but there is a very easy way of TVR stopping this.

It would be good to hear from TVR don't you think?

spagbogdog

548 posts

196 months

Thursday 6th December
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Monkeylegend said:
spagbogdog said:
My “case” is to ask AD the same question I asked him 2 weeks ago..when he stated for a fact that he knew the Venture~Capitalists that had turned down TVR.

I ask him again:
Specifically WHO and WHEN..?????????
You also told him to stop posting.

We have read some of your alcohol induced, cringeworthy posts and love poems to your friend Les, but nobody has asked you to stop posting smile
I asked him to tell us the facts that he knew about
No alcohol from me I’m afraid

Monkeylegend

14,118 posts

167 months

Thursday 6th December
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spagbogdog said:
No alcohol from me I’m afraid
Not at the moment smile