New TVR still under wraps!

[GTRene]

Meanwhile in Germany updated news by Wiesmann, which seems to be in 'British' hands, so its a bit British as well.

[quote-story]Dülmen .Der bislang noch streng geheim gehaltene neue Wiesmann Roadster aus Dülmener Produktion soll Mitte 2020 in Produktion gehen. „Ich kann Euch versprechen, es wird wieder eine richtig geile Karre - und mit 625 PS stärker, als alle Modelle, die bisher auf dem Markt waren“, versprach Wiesmann-Mitarbeiter Markus Stevermüer den Besuchern eines Jazzkonzertes in der Gecko-Produktionshalle, in welcher der neue Luxus-Sportwagen hergestellt werden soll.

Wie bereits berichtet, soll der neue Roadster von einem V8-Motor von BMW angetrieben werden, die Kooperation ist aus München bestätigt worden. Die britischen Eigentümer haben sich offenbar für eine Geheim-Strategie entschieden, die vorsieht, vor der Präsentation keine Einzelheiten zum Projekt bekannt zu geben. So ist die Wiesmann-Homepage seit Monaten nicht mehr erreichbar. Auch ein angekündigtes Pressebüro hat die Arbeit bislang noch nicht aufgenommen.
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with google translate English it says:

Dülmen. The still strictly secret kept new Wiesmann Roadster from Dülmener production should go into production in mid-2020. "I can promise you, it will be a really cool car again - and with 625 hp stronger than all the models that have been on the market so far," promised Wiesmann employee Markus Stevermüer the visitors of a jazz concert in the Gecko production hall, in which the new luxury sports car is to be produced.

As previously reported, the new Roadster is powered by a V8 engine from BMW, the cooperation has been confirmed from Munich. The British owners have apparently opted for a secret strategy, which does not specify details of the project prior to the presentation. So the Wiesmann homepage has not been available for months. Even an announced press office has not yet begun work.


Keeps his plans secret: Wiesmann-owner Roheen Berry.

https://www.dzonline.de/Duelmen/3735622-Geheimplae...

so, 625hp in a 'lightweight' Wiesmann car (ala MF3 cabrio and MF4 GT and cabrio and MF5 GT and cabrio), sounds good :-) and 2020 so next year...they beat TVR after closing factory and going over into new hands.

[m4tti]

It didn’t take much to destabilise Weismann previously. Can’t see why that would be any different now.

[Monkeylegend]

m4tti said:

It didn’t take much to destabilise Weismann previously. Can’t see why that would be any different now.

And for that you can read TVR who it seems are far behind Weismann in all aspects in terms of actually producing a car, so what hope for the future?

[m4tti]

Things are still looking up around the new corvette though. I still can’t believe I like it as I’m usually very “anti” American car. But this is looking better and better.

V8, V6, plus flat plane crank racing v8!

And it’s got to be coming in around the same price as the new TVR to undercut the existing European offerings... and .... and right hand drive!

[TheRainMaker]

All they really need to is drip feed some small bits of technical info every few weeks and I'm sure everyone would be happy.

At the moment the whole project feels like a dead duck.

I still hope they can pull it off, but my interest has fallen off a cliff.

[anonymous-user]

TheRainMaker said:

All they really need to is drip feed some small bits of technical info every few weeks and I'm sure everyone would be happy.

At the moment the whole project feels like a dead duck.

I still hope they can pull it off, but my interest has fallen off a cliff.

In the absence of any news its looking like that. No update as promised, no Big News as promised. Even the website has no updates this year its like looking at one of those sites where the business got all excited when they started then got bored and didn't bother from then on.

I'm at the point now where if its rejuvenated I'm going towards the 'its not a real TVR' and 'its only the badge that makes it a TVR the rest has nothing to do with it' etc etc

[Tyre Smoke]

Anyone know how many deposits they still hold and how many have been refunded?

And what does actually happen if Newco TVR ceases trading/winds up/declares bankruptcy?

I know the deposits are supposed to be 'safe' and ring fenced, but are they? And how safe is safe?

[BJWoods]

Tyre Smoke said:

Anyone know how many deposits they still hold and how many have been refunded?

And what does actually happen if Newco TVR ceases trading/winds up/declares bankruptcy?

I know the deposits are supposed to be 'safe' and ring fenced, but are they? And how safe is safe?

I don't think that many deposit holders really care how 'safe' the deposit is. Would be more disappointed that the car does not happen, than worry about the deposit. always a risk/gamble. We are all big boys and girls, let us worry about our money, don't need armchair pistonheaders with no deposit to worry for us (this has been a ongoing theme for years, and is just repetitive now.)

[Monkeylegend]

BJWoods said:

Tyre Smoke said:

Anyone know how many deposits they still hold and how many have been refunded?

And what does actually happen if Newco TVR ceases trading/winds up/declares bankruptcy?

I know the deposits are supposed to be 'safe' and ring fenced, but are they? And how safe is safe?

I don't think that many deposit holders really care how 'safe' the deposit is. Would be more disappointed that the car does not happen, than worry about the deposit. always a risk/gamble. We are all big boys and girls, let us worry about our money, don't need armchair pistonheaders with no deposit to worry for us (this has been a ongoing theme for years, and is just repetitive now.)

The man does protest too much. It is a perfectly legitimate question on a forum discussing the TVR situation. To try and shut down the discussion re deposits is a bit ostrich like.

In what other circumstance would people not be concerned about placing a £2.5 or £5k deposit and be messed around as much as you people have and genuinely don't think it is an issue and are prepared to say, oh well, never mind, its only £5k.

To say that losing it is not an issue sounds more like you are trying to convince yourself that all is ok and you are not bothered or concerned in anyway, a sort of self denial if you like.

[Testarossa]

Monkeylegend said:

BJWoods said:

Tyre Smoke said:

Anyone know how many deposits they still hold and how many have been refunded?

And what does actually happen if Newco TVR ceases trading/winds up/declares bankruptcy?

I know the deposits are supposed to be 'safe' and ring fenced, but are they? And how safe is safe?

I don't think that many deposit holders really care how 'safe' the deposit is. Would be more disappointed that the car does not happen, than worry about the deposit. always a risk/gamble. We are all big boys and girls, let us worry about our money, don't need armchair pistonheaders with no deposit to worry for us (this has been a ongoing theme for years, and is just repetitive now.)

The man does protest too much. It is a perfectly legitimate question on a forum discussing the TVR situation. To try and shut down the discussion re deposits is a bit ostrich like.

In what other circumstance would people not be concerned about placing a £2.5 or £5k deposit and be messed around as much as you people have and genuinely don't think it is an issue and are prepared to say, oh well, never mind, its only £5k.

To say that losing it is not an issue sounds more like you are trying to convince yourself that all is ok and you are not bothered or concerned in anyway, a sort of self denial if you like.

I disagree and although I hope BJ wasn't referring to Tyresmoke with his last line, he kind of summed it up. Any deposit holders left now (me included) know we could lose our money. Any deposit holders who are worried will not respond to Tyresmoke because they will have got their money out!

The next wave of refunds will be once the signed off TVR Griffith will be shown after they have taken deposit holders' comments on board from the questionnaire (that's when I will pull the plug). I don't believe TVR are interested in what the deposit holders are saying about the styling and that's when people like me will walk away.

I pray I am wrong though and we have a more aggressive, menacing and uncompromising TVR to look forward to in err 2025

[The Surveyor]

Monkeylegend said:

m4tti said:

It didn’t take much to destabilise Weismann previously. Can’t see why that would be any different now.

And for that you can read TVR who it seems are far behind Weismann in all aspects in terms of actually producing a car, so what hope for the future?

To be fair, Weismann are simply switching the lights back on in an established facility to re-start production of an existing car (albeit with a new engine) so the risks are relatively low. TVR are starting from nothing, it's a much more treacherous mountain to climb IMHO.

[m4tti]

Have their production units simply sat their idle then, with no repurposing since 2014?

[baconsarney]

This is a serious question as I'm genuinely interested to hear what TVR enthusiasts consider as alternatives to a new TVR... Just for context, I've owned my TVR for nearly 9 years, I have no intent to sell it, certainly not in the near future, and two and a half years ago I added a V8 Vantage to the stable, which I absolutely love....

So, just for discussion, you have £90k to spend on a new toy.... and you have to do it in the next six months.... what'll it be guys?

Can be new or used..........

And why?

[Testarossa]

baconsarney said:

This is a serious question as I'm genuinely interested to hear what TVR enthusiasts consider as alternatives to a new TVR... Just for context, I've owned my TVR for nearly 9 years, I have no intent to sell it, certainly not in the near future, and two and a half years ago I added a V8 Vantage to the stable, which I absolutely love....

So, just for discussion, you have £90k to spend on a new toy.... and you have to do it in the next six months.... what'll it be guys?

Can be new or used..........

And why?

USED
r8 V10 manual roadster plus money left over for a little lotus...
amg gts
i8 Roadster (i think will be a future classic, just not yet)

NEW
Nothing worth 90k (future TVR included)

[N7GTX]

baconsarney said:

This is a serious question as I'm genuinely interested to hear what TVR enthusiasts consider as alternatives to a new TVR... Just for context, I've owned my TVR for nearly 9 years, I have no intent to sell it, certainly not in the near future, and two and a half years ago I added a V8 Vantage to the stable, which I absolutely love....

So, just for discussion, you have £90k to spend on a new toy.... and you have to do it in the next six months.... what'll it be guys?

Can be new or used..........

And why?

No question Richard, it has to be one of these. Do I need to explain why?



https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...

[colin mee]

The new supra looks a great car.not looked at the price sorry.my fantasy garage has no price tags.lol

[baconsarney]

N7GTX said:

baconsarney said:

This is a serious question as I'm genuinely interested to hear what TVR enthusiasts consider as alternatives to a new TVR... Just for context, I've owned my TVR for nearly 9 years, I have no intent to sell it, certainly not in the near future, and two and a half years ago I added a V8 Vantage to the stable, which I absolutely love....

So, just for discussion, you have £90k to spend on a new toy.... and you have to do it in the next six months.... what'll it be guys?

Can be new or used..........

And why?

No question Richard, it has to be one of these. Do I need to explain why?



https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...

Nearly perfect Iain

It's a sportshift... needs to be a proper manual

But totally agree, if I had 90k to blow on a toy it would be a V12V...... you have no need to explain.... It's extraordinary how many TVR enthusiasts go on to own Astons.... but it is kind of logical

[baconsarney]

Testarossa said:

USED
r8 V10 manual roadster plus money left over for a little lotus...
amg gts
i8 Roadster (i think will be a future classic, just not yet)

NEW
Nothing worth 90k (future TVR included)

Not for me, but an R8 V10 is a lovely car and ticks a lot of boxes..... and completely agree with the nothing new at 90k..........

[baconsarney]

N7GTX said:

No question Richard, it has to be one of these. Do I need to explain why?



https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...

And just for the sake of good order, gave mine a wash and polish today...

Beastie is still tucked up in the garage behind the AM

[m4tti]

^^too slow...and too many James Bond wannabes.

Edited by m4tti on Thursday 11th April 21:58