New TVR still under wraps!

[bertie]

baconsarney said:

This is a serious question as I'm genuinely interested to hear what TVR enthusiasts consider as alternatives to a new TVR... Just for context, I've owned my TVR for nearly 9 years, I have no intent to sell it, certainly not in the near future, and two and a half years ago I added a V8 Vantage to the stable, which I absolutely love....

So, just for discussion, you have £90k to spend on a new toy.... and you have to do it in the next six months.... what'll it be guys?

Can be new or used..........

And why?

I’d go used and go for either an Aston V12 Vantage or Mclaren 570s

Both utterly epic and British.

[m4tti]

I thought I’d go for a McClaren after I’d got bored of the R8, but they just have no sound. None.

They ran a selection of them at the member meeting at Goodwood last Sunday, and the sound was so restricted. I know they’re turbo charged but it’s too stifled.

I need to look into decatting one, not sure if the cats integrated with the manifold.

The gtr with the right exhaust even sounds good.

The V10 in the R8 with capristo exhaust sounds the nuts

[bertie]

m4tti said:

I thought I’d go for a McClaren after I’d got bored of the R8, but they just have no sound. None.

They ran a selection of them at the member meeting at Goodwood last Sunday, and the sound was so restricted. I know they’re turbo charged but it’s too stifled.

I need to look into decatting one, not sure if the cats integrated with the manifold.

The gtr with the right exhaust even sounds good.

The V10 in the R8 with capristo exhaust sounds the nuts

Guess it depends what matters most to you, the way it drives or the noise.

[robsco]

The only non-TVR I would consider under 90k would be a 355 Berlinetta/GTS with manual ‘box.

[m4tti]

bertie said:

Guess it depends what matters most to you, the way it drives or the noise.

It’s got to have a good balance of both. Especially with speed restrictions everywhere. You need to sound fast going slow

[bertie]

robsco said:

The only non-TVR I would consider under 90k would be a 355 Berlinetta/GTS with manual ‘box.

Problem is a 355, wonderful though they are, and I loved mine back in the day, is now a 20 plus year old car and cars have come a long way in the past 20 plus years.

[bertie]

m4tti said:

bertie said:

Guess it depends what matters most to you, the way it drives or the noise.

It’s got to have a good balance of both. Especially with speed restrictions everywhere. You need to sound fast going slow

I’d suggest having a go in a Mclaren... to drive they are anything but boring, and I say that as a Ferrari man who by all conventions shouldn’t like them.

[robsco]

bertie said:

robsco said:

The only non-TVR I would consider under 90k would be a 355 Berlinetta/GTS with manual ‘box.

Problem is a 355, wonderful though they are, and I loved mine back in the day, is now a 20 plus year old car and cars have come a long way in the past 20 plus years.

I understand your point but our TVRs are antiquated old dinosaurs but there’s still nothing that fills the gap. Most modern stuff really doesn’t appeal to me. I guess an Exige V6 or a Morgan 3-Wheeler are two other potentials I’d consider.

[bertie]

robsco said:

bertie said:

robsco said:

The only non-TVR I would consider under 90k would be a 355 Berlinetta/GTS with manual ‘box.

Problem is a 355, wonderful though they are, and I loved mine back in the day, is now a 20 plus year old car and cars have come a long way in the past 20 plus years.

I understand your point but our TVRs are antiquated old dinosaurs but there’s still nothing that fills the gap. Most modern stuff really doesn’t appeal to me. I guess an Exige V6 or a Morgan 3-Wheeler are two other potentials I’d consider.

I’m afraid I’ve been spoiled by just how good modern cars are so I struggle finding the charm of older stuff.

I’ve got a 308 and a 458 Spider sat next to each other in the garage. Almost exactly 31 years between them, the 308 is a beautiful thing and I love it, but when I get chance to go fir a drive the 458 keys find their way into my hand almost every time.

[Griffithy]

Nothing new at 90k

Not many cars out there to challenge the Tuscan for looks and drama:


This one could tempt me:


......or this one:


Have to wait for this one to drop:

[m4tti]

bertie said:

I’d suggest having a go in a Mclaren... to drive they are anything but boring, and I say that as a Ferrari man who by all conventions shouldn’t like them.

There’s no doubt dynamically they are superb, and at current used values represent amazing value.

[bertie]

m4tti said:

bertie said:

I’d suggest having a go in a Mclaren... to drive they are anything but boring, and I say that as a Ferrari man who by all conventions shouldn’t like them.

There’s no doubt dynamically they are superb, and at current used values represent amazing value.

The steering precision, feedback, sense of structural solidity, ride & handling afforded by having a full carbon tub are astonishing, the level of engineering at the price point are unbeatable.

A used 570 is steal of the decade right now imho

[robsco]

bertie said:

robsco said:

bertie said:

robsco said:

The only non-TVR I would consider under 90k would be a 355 Berlinetta/GTS with manual ‘box.

Problem is a 355, wonderful though they are, and I loved mine back in the day, is now a 20 plus year old car and cars have come a long way in the past 20 plus years.

I understand your point but our TVRs are antiquated old dinosaurs but there’s still nothing that fills the gap. Most modern stuff really doesn’t appeal to me. I guess an Exige V6 or a Morgan 3-Wheeler are two other potentials I’d consider.

I’m afraid I’ve been spoiled by just how good modern cars are so I struggle finding the charm of older stuff.

I’ve got a 308 and a 458 Spider sat next to each other in the garage. Almost exactly 31 years between them, the 308 is a beautiful thing and I love it, but when I get chance to go fir a drive the 458 keys find their way into my hand almost every time.

That’s a dilemma I wish I had! I imagine the 458 is very special.

[bertie]

robsco said:

bertie said:

robsco said:

bertie said:

robsco said:

The only non-TVR I would consider under 90k would be a 355 Berlinetta/GTS with manual ‘box.

Problem is a 355, wonderful though they are, and I loved mine back in the day, is now a 20 plus year old car and cars have come a long way in the past 20 plus years.

I understand your point but our TVRs are antiquated old dinosaurs but there’s still nothing that fills the gap. Most modern stuff really doesn’t appeal to me. I guess an Exige V6 or a Morgan 3-Wheeler are two other potentials I’d consider.

I’m afraid I’ve been spoiled by just how good modern cars are so I struggle finding the charm of older stuff.

I’ve got a 308 and a 458 Spider sat next to each other in the garage. Almost exactly 31 years between them, the 308 is a beautiful thing and I love it, but when I get chance to go fir a drive the 458 keys find their way into my hand almost every time.

That’s a dilemma I wish I had! I imagine the 458 is very special.

They are both wonderful in their own ways...

[baconsarney]

m4tti said:

^^too slow...and too many James Bond wannabes.

Edited by m4tti on Thursday 11th April 21:58

[Zippee]

For me it would be a merc amg gt. Lovely car.
However, I've found myself needing more practicality and just sold my t350, moving onto an estate car instead - albeit one with 600bhp
I looked at the merc and an r8 v10 before doing so but just needed the space.

[robsco]

Zippee said:

For me it would be a merc amg gt. Lovely car.
However, I've found myself needing more practicality and just sold my t350, moving onto an estate car instead - albeit one with 600bhp
I looked at the merc and an r8 v10 before doing so but just needed the space.

That’s a crying shame, sorry to hear you’ve sold!

[The Surveyor]

bertie said:

m4tti said:

bertie said:

I’d suggest having a go in a Mclaren... to drive they are anything but boring, and I say that as a Ferrari man who by all conventions shouldn’t like them.

There’s no doubt dynamically they are superb, and at current used values represent amazing value.

The steering precision, feedback, sense of structural solidity, ride & handling afforded by having a full carbon tub are astonishing, the level of engineering at the price point are unbeatable.

A used 570 is steal of the decade right now imho

My route after a couple of decades of TVR ownership arrived at a 570s after 18 months of Aston Martin V8 Vantage ownership. The Aston felt a natural progression after a Tuscan being British, low volume, with a cracking V8 engine and manual gearbox, but whilst it made all the right noises, it was a terrible car. The V12 Vantage is streets ahead in performance but are really showing their age now IMHO.

The R8 and GT-r Mercedes just feel a little too 'mass-produced' to give the same 'oh my God. I'm going to die...' feeling that you get when you hoof a TVR, and that was lacking in the V8 Vantage despite all the noise. Its what the new unicorn Griffith needs to dish-up, and its certainly there in the 570s

[MDL111]

bertie said:

robsco said:

bertie said:

robsco said:

bertie said:

robsco said:

The only non-TVR I would consider under 90k would be a 355 Berlinetta/GTS with manual ‘box.

Problem is a 355, wonderful though they are, and I loved mine back in the day, is now a 20 plus year old car and cars have come a long way in the past 20 plus years.

I understand your point but our TVRs are antiquated old dinosaurs but there’s still nothing that fills the gap. Most modern stuff really doesn’t appeal to me. I guess an Exige V6 or a Morgan 3-Wheeler are two other potentials I’d consider.

I’m afraid I’ve been spoiled by just how good modern cars are so I struggle finding the charm of older stuff.

I’ve got a 308 and a 458 Spider sat next to each other in the garage. Almost exactly 31 years between them, the 308 is a beautiful thing and I love it, but when I get chance to go fir a drive the 458 keys find their way into my hand almost every time.

That’s a dilemma I wish I had! I imagine the 458 is very special.

They are both wonderful in their own ways...

the wood on your garage is aging nicely - still one of the best ones I have seen, love it (and your cars obviously)

[bertie]

MDL111 said:

the wood on your garage is aging nicely - still one of the best ones I have seen, love it (and your cars obviously)

Cheers, I’ve recently changed the doors as the manual draughty barn doors were a pain in the ass, to automatic sectional doors.

So now it looks like this...sorry for thread deviation... mind you not much else happening!