New TVR still under wraps!
Discussion
essexstu said:
I have some news...
I have cancelled my deposit....
One day I hope to still buy the new Griffith but at the moment, after 3 1/2 years, my excitement has slowly drained away and with start of production now looking like 2020 I feel it's time to move on.
Maybe I will go for the supercharged convertible model in 2022!
I'm afraid to say after having had my deposit in for some time, was told I was 11th, I too pulled my deposit back just before Christmas.I have cancelled my deposit....
One day I hope to still buy the new Griffith but at the moment, after 3 1/2 years, my excitement has slowly drained away and with start of production now looking like 2020 I feel it's time to move on.
Maybe I will go for the supercharged convertible model in 2022!
I truly do wish them well as I've been a life long TVR fan, had 6 of the things, but time was marching on and it's looking like it would have arrived at the same time as I have other things arriving so regrettably I bailed out.
Konrod said:
Monkeylegend said:
No, you've got it wrong, that's what a TVR does look like, and bloomin gorgeous it is too, big asre and all.
Excuse me, that "big asre" (sic) is perfectly formed so that when you go through the hedge backwards it creates a neat hole.......Oh er vicar.............................
Those older TVR's do have something about them that the new one doesn't though
8nil said:
bullittmcqueen said:
Monkeylegend said:
bullittmcqueen said:
julian64 said:
dvs_dave said:
Putting those two cars right next to each other really brings it home to me. One is starting to look like a dated Toyota with a weird front end and the other one is a bit of a head turner because its an unusual shape in todays bland world, and quite pretty.It's the swoopy line from over the front wheel arches, the straight door/window line and the coke bottle-esque styling over the rear arches, that are signature TVR of the 90's and 2000's.
The new Griffith is pretty much a straight line from the headlamps to tail lamps, which somehow loses the muscular look of TVRs of old, and gives it more of a conventional, Toyota look.
The new Griffith is pretty much a straight line from the headlamps to tail lamps, which somehow loses the muscular look of TVRs of old, and gives it more of a conventional, Toyota look.
anonymous said:
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^^^^^this. If you just add in that Tvr line as can be seen in all the Wheeler designs so getting rid of that straight line the car would be far more recognisable as a Tvr imho.
Probably do nothing for aero though,,, but really who cares when driving down the high st!
This is where racing functionality fails on a road car, the car looks like it’s been designed to win a race rather than a looks competition .
^^^^
Go take a look 'in the metal'..it is "most definitely" not a straight line from front to rear.
(((I will admit that the majority of pictures/photo's tend to hide many angles...and do not do the car much justice at all..)))
The rear haunches are indeed very muscular.
The front arches (imo..and I think most on here) could do with an extra cm of width.
Best views to take in the curves are in the Goodwood walkround thingy...
Go take a look 'in the metal'..it is "most definitely" not a straight line from front to rear.
(((I will admit that the majority of pictures/photo's tend to hide many angles...and do not do the car much justice at all..)))
The rear haunches are indeed very muscular.
The front arches (imo..and I think most on here) could do with an extra cm of width.
Best views to take in the curves are in the Goodwood walkround thingy...
bullittmcqueen said:
Just seen this:
https://www.autoexpress.co.uk/car-news/geneva-moto...
https://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/neuheiten/piec...
Name of car is Piech Mark Zero, started by son of former VW-boss Ferdinand Piech. Various drive-trains, full-electric to IC-engine. Doesn't look too bad and founder should be well-connected to the entire car-industry plus will probably have Dads backing. Focus on light-weight (1800 KG, hehe, but probably due to battery weight). 500KM range planned.
Drawings look nice, but what will be left when (if) they build it, remains to be seen.
Looks interesting, but probably very different in spirit from the Griff.
I guess that depositors are also debating of the goldfish mouth :-)https://www.autoexpress.co.uk/car-news/geneva-moto...
https://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/neuheiten/piec...
Name of car is Piech Mark Zero, started by son of former VW-boss Ferdinand Piech. Various drive-trains, full-electric to IC-engine. Doesn't look too bad and founder should be well-connected to the entire car-industry plus will probably have Dads backing. Focus on light-weight (1800 KG, hehe, but probably due to battery weight). 500KM range planned.
Drawings look nice, but what will be left when (if) they build it, remains to be seen.
Looks interesting, but probably very different in spirit from the Griff.
Zeb74 said:
bullittmcqueen said:
Just seen this:
https://www.autoexpress.co.uk/car-news/geneva-moto...
https://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/neuheiten/piec...
Name of car is Piech Mark Zero, started by son of former VW-boss Ferdinand Piech. Various drive-trains, full-electric to IC-engine. Doesn't look too bad and founder should be well-connected to the entire car-industry plus will probably have Dads backing. Focus on light-weight (1800 KG, hehe, but probably due to battery weight). 500KM range planned.
Drawings look nice, but what will be left when (if) they build it, remains to be seen.
Looks interesting, but probably very different in spirit from the Griff.
I guess that depositors are also debating of the goldfish mouth :-)https://www.autoexpress.co.uk/car-news/geneva-moto...
https://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/neuheiten/piec...
Name of car is Piech Mark Zero, started by son of former VW-boss Ferdinand Piech. Various drive-trains, full-electric to IC-engine. Doesn't look too bad and founder should be well-connected to the entire car-industry plus will probably have Dads backing. Focus on light-weight (1800 KG, hehe, but probably due to battery weight). 500KM range planned.
Drawings look nice, but what will be left when (if) they build it, remains to be seen.
Looks interesting, but probably very different in spirit from the Griff.
But let's wait until(if/when) it materializes.
spagbogdog said:
^^^^
Go take a look 'in the metal'..it is "most definitely" not a straight line from front to rear.
(((I will admit that the majority of pictures/photo's tend to hide many angles...and do not do the car much justice at all..)))
The rear haunches are indeed very muscular.
The front arches (imo..and I think most on here) could do with an extra cm of width.
Best views to take in the curves are in the Goodwood walkround thingy...
So Chim and Spag comments make for quite an interesting debate. Spag is right that the new Griff live looks way better than it photos but the aero must be compromising the looks - and if thats the case is it really required? We know the Sag spent time in the wind tunnel and the slashes in the wings were originally open so to reduce air pressure under the arches to increase down force. Of course Moleskins abandoned the idea, nothing to do with stones etc being spat on to the windscreen but more to down to with the additional labour cost cutting them out. However 15 years on I have never heard a Sagaris owner complain about their cars handling and how it could be improved by reducing the air pressure within the arches - in fact the only complaint ever seems to be that the slashes look better cut out and less contrived.Go take a look 'in the metal'..it is "most definitely" not a straight line from front to rear.
(((I will admit that the majority of pictures/photo's tend to hide many angles...and do not do the car much justice at all..)))
The rear haunches are indeed very muscular.
The front arches (imo..and I think most on here) could do with an extra cm of width.
Best views to take in the curves are in the Goodwood walkround thingy...
So that begs the question is all the aero really needed on the new Griff, especially if it is compromising looks?
PuffsBack said:
spagbogdog said:
^^^^
Go take a look 'in the metal'..it is "most definitely" not a straight line from front to rear.
(((I will admit that the majority of pictures/photo's tend to hide many angles...and do not do the car much justice at all..)))
The rear haunches are indeed very muscular.
The front arches (imo..and I think most on here) could do with an extra cm of width.
Best views to take in the curves are in the Goodwood walkround thingy...
So Chim and Spag comments make for quite an interesting debate. Spag is right that the new Griff live looks way better than it photos but the aero must be compromising the looks - and if thats the case is it really required? We know the Sag spent time in the wind tunnel and the slashes in the wings were originally open so to reduce air pressure under the arches to increase down force. Of course Moleskins abandoned the idea, nothing to do with stones etc being spat on to the windscreen but more to down to with the additional labour cost cutting them out. However 15 years on I have never heard a Sagaris owner complain about their cars handling and how it could be improved by reducing the air pressure within the arches - in fact the only complaint ever seems to be that the slashes look better cut out and less contrived.Go take a look 'in the metal'..it is "most definitely" not a straight line from front to rear.
(((I will admit that the majority of pictures/photo's tend to hide many angles...and do not do the car much justice at all..)))
The rear haunches are indeed very muscular.
The front arches (imo..and I think most on here) could do with an extra cm of width.
Best views to take in the curves are in the Goodwood walkround thingy...
So that begs the question is all the aero really needed on the new Griff, especially if it is compromising looks?
Les is a Sag Luvver......
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