Thinking of getting my 1st TVR
Discussion
Classic Chim said:
There's no other way to put this but you can't get into Chim ownership on the cheap as far as I can see. You either buy one sorted or you buy one and sort it but either way it's not going to be a cheap fix.
Do all you can to check out Glynns car because from what I remember it's a very usable solid example with after market Ecu and new riggers and allsorts. A bargain and right for you and in budget. You'll not have many chances to get the right car at the right price at the right time.
I strongly suggest you consider your plans carefully as without setting a decent budget each year to look after the car this might not be the right thing for you. Check out Verboten Technique as they are possibly the closest Tvr repair specialist to you and do some amazing things with cars. If they are within a reasonable distance maybe they could service your car so check their prices for comparison.
They are on Facebook too.
Hmmmm I do not recall ever saying that getting into TVR ownership was cheap! Of course others seem to have rather different definitions of cheap! Do all you can to check out Glynns car because from what I remember it's a very usable solid example with after market Ecu and new riggers and allsorts. A bargain and right for you and in budget. You'll not have many chances to get the right car at the right price at the right time.
I strongly suggest you consider your plans carefully as without setting a decent budget each year to look after the car this might not be the right thing for you. Check out Verboten Technique as they are possibly the closest Tvr repair specialist to you and do some amazing things with cars. If they are within a reasonable distance maybe they could service your car so check their prices for comparison.
They are on Facebook too.
To some it seems that £12,000 is banger money
Now the budget has been reduced by the need to transport and register here which will cost maybe £3000 but we are hopeful it will be quite a bit less, maybe half, have just put up listings to ask for quotes for the transport of the Rover 75 and MGF so we shall see what prices we got offered to deliver those.
Could not find that specialsit you suggest but they sound Dutch and Holland it almost as far away as the UK from here. The transport listing site says it's 2836 km from where those are in the UK to here...................... OK Holland is a little closer but over 2000km to go for a service is not feasible! Heck by the time you drove home again it would nearly be ready for another service.
Mushroom12 said:
Sofia. I ended up just handing everything to an agent to deal with. Cost me 350 euro in total to register the s2000.
I'd love a TVR but after look for the last year decided against it mostly due to parts and specialists...now looking to sell the s2000 and get an evora
Thes ervicing issues is one reason why a Rover V8 engined TVR is desirable. I have seen quite a few Range Rovers and the engine is basically the same for servicing. Now a TVR with an AJP engine would be another matter though. More sepcialised tools and knowledge required to deal with those I understand. I'd love a TVR but after look for the last year decided against it mostly due to parts and specialists...now looking to sell the s2000 and get an evora
Sofia is about 5 hours drive from here in case you did not know. I did the bus trip back in June on my fact finding trip. Spent one night in Sofia on arrival and a few hours there on the way back to the UK.
They exist and are on the Hungarian border I seem to think!
Thanks for informing me where Holland is
My spelling is likely incorrect.
Look up Odin Verpoorten on Facebook or online for Verboorten Technique
Check their prices on restoration work. You might be able to buy a basket case over here and they transform it there, might work out cheaper for you if paying 12/14k for a good example here is to expensive.
All the best mate.
Thanks for informing me where Holland is
My spelling is likely incorrect.
Look up Odin Verpoorten on Facebook or online for Verboorten Technique
Check their prices on restoration work. You might be able to buy a basket case over here and they transform it there, might work out cheaper for you if paying 12/14k for a good example here is to expensive.
All the best mate.
Here's the link to Verpoorten's website
http://vtautomotive.com/cars-for-sale/tvr-chimaera...
I suspect they are in Aachen, which is close to the Dutch border in Germany. I had thought they were in Hungary, but I don't actually know why i thought that. They also do a transport service.
http://vtautomotive.com/cars-for-sale/tvr-chimaera...
I suspect they are in Aachen, which is close to the Dutch border in Germany. I had thought they were in Hungary, but I don't actually know why i thought that. They also do a transport service.
QBee said:
Classic Chim said:
^^^^ if that's the case I apologise.
If you are based in Europe they are still a good contact to know.
We are both correct - look at the welcome page and you will see that they started in Germany in 1990 and then in Hungary in 1994.....If you are based in Europe they are still a good contact to know.
Brithunter said:
Petrol prices are why LPG is so common here despite it being illegal to fix prices it seems that is what the oil companies have done throughout the EU the price is the same here as in the UK even though the duty is less here???????? some serious price fixing happening! When you consider the cost of living generally and the wages are way lower than the UK many cannot afford to run a car on petrol. Horse and carts are still common outside the Cities ............................. no I am not joking. The way of living is older with a slower pace of life one of the reasons we decide to come here.
The Chimaera will not be used during the bad winter weather as they do get hit with snow here and I mean real snow but winter seems to be shorter but harsher have read people sitting outside eating meals in T-Shirt and shorts in mid December the cold and snow seems to arrive around Christmas or New Year. This year the snows arrived new years day and in places was over a metre deep they had the army out clearing roads to make the passable. Not weather for a sports car and I think you find you have to fit winter tyres here. We will have the Rover 75 CDT auto for daily driver duties once it arrives here.
Over the next year or so we intend to explore the country and I will also drive up into Romania down intoTurkey and Greece and this is one reason why a Chimaera was chosen over other TVR's although I did consider a S but still want a V8 and V8S's do command quite a price.
To be honest even in this country if executed correctly LPG in a Rover V8 engined TVR is a no-brainer, these are extremely practical traditional analogue sports cars that can easily be used on a regular basis were it not for their prodigious thirst for fuel. The only practical way to address this issue is not to try to make the car more economical on petrol because no matter what you do the gains here will always be small, the solution comes in the form of a LPG which is half the price of petrol and readily available across a huge network of stations most of which you will currently be visiting to fill up with petrol anyway.The Chimaera will not be used during the bad winter weather as they do get hit with snow here and I mean real snow but winter seems to be shorter but harsher have read people sitting outside eating meals in T-Shirt and shorts in mid December the cold and snow seems to arrive around Christmas or New Year. This year the snows arrived new years day and in places was over a metre deep they had the army out clearing roads to make the passable. Not weather for a sports car and I think you find you have to fit winter tyres here. We will have the Rover 75 CDT auto for daily driver duties once it arrives here.
Over the next year or so we intend to explore the country and I will also drive up into Romania down intoTurkey and Greece and this is one reason why a Chimaera was chosen over other TVR's although I did consider a S but still want a V8 and V8S's do command quite a price.
LPG is the worlds third most commonly used fuel for passenger vehicles, while we may not see as much take up here in the UK there are many countries globally where LPG is significantly more commonplace that petrol. While here on our tiny island we see LPG as a problematic niche market fuel elsewhere it is viewed as completely normal to run vehicles on gas, literally millions of vehicles consume this fuel on a daily basis from Japan to Brazil and Australia to France, Germany, Italy, Poland ect ect, ect. ect. Personally I have not burnt petrol in my Chimaera in years and cringe at the thought of having to shell out for it, you very quickly get used to £33.00 (300 mile) fills, so going back to paying the best part of £70.00 to cover the same distance seems ridiculous to me these and would dictate I simply wouldn't get to enjoy my Chimaera nearly as much if I had to return to petrol.
Some may argue a sports car should not be converted to LPG, this nonsense always comes from people who don't understand the fuel and how it behaves/burns, these naysayers typically have a very poor and outdated understanding of the sophisticated modern systems used to deliver it. These days electronic LPG injection systems are the equal of petrol injection systems so the days of losing performance and drivability are long gone, unfortunately the stigma of the old dreadful single point systems hangs on but that's like saying petrol is a poor fuel because you're delivering it to the engine using the very most basic carburetor as this is effectively what an old single point LPG system uses.
The Rover V8 TVRs are actually perfect candidates for a proper up to date LPG conversion using a modern advanced LPG delivery system, and the Chimaera with it's huge boot is best of them all. To put people's minds at rest further it should be pointed out that traditionally one of the most converted vehicles in the UK and Australia has been the Rover V8 engined Rage Rover (& Discovery), literally tens of thousands of these vehicles have been successfully converted to LPG. Usually this is done later in the vehicle's life when there's 80,000 miles or more on the clock, the engine then goes on to cover another 100,000 miles solely consuming LPG proving this engine is extremely gas friendly mostly because it uses very hard valve seats and high quality valves.
When I converted my Chimaera to LPG some 5 years ago I took the opportunity to replace the old Lucas 14CUX fuel only ECU and very outdated distributor ignition system with an updated full fuel & spark mappable engine management system, this gave significant benefits on petrol alone as many others making this change have found when fitting similar systems from MBE, Emerald, DTA, MegaSquirt ect ect ect. By selecting the Canems dual fuel system not only was I able to tap into all the benefits of such stand alone full engine management systems on petrol, but at a flick of a switch I could run the car on LPG in a super efficient way.
It goes without saying the car drives infinitely better on petrol than it ever did on the virtually unmappable 14CUX and antiquated distributor, but what may surprise you is on LPG it drives even better still. Rather than ruining the cars drivabily LPG actually enhanced the already vastly improved petrol drivability This may seem counterintuative to those who mistakenly believe LPG is fuel that means reduced performance and poor engine behaviour but by moving to a more modern engine management system with a massively more powerful and integrated ignition system one is able to directly manipulate the unique ignition and fuel map to optimise LPG performance, it's a little known fact LPG is actually a high octane fuel at 110Ron far more ignition advance can be applied early on to take advantage of the way the fuel behaves.
When burning LPG correctly idle quality and smoothness is greatly enhanced and there's a substantial increase in low end torque, this is because the burn rate of LPG is slightly slower and much more complete than petrol, being a gas the fuel mixes far more readily with air (also a gas) than a liquid fuel like petrol will. Due to its structure and mass petrol (especially at low piston/air speeds) tends to fall out of suspension with the air you're trying to mix it with, this formis puddles of fuel on the floor of the inlet manifold which does not make for a stable idle especially in an engine like the Rover V8 that has a very poor inlet manifold and combustion chamber design by modern standards. LPG on the other hand can't form such puddles as it mixes with air perfectly, so as it turns out rather than reducing performance and making the car drive worse LPG is actually the worlds best drivabilty improver bar none!
Get the delivery system right using modern LPG system components (quality injectors & vaporiser are key here) and tune the ignition system to give the optimal 3D map across the entire engine speed/engine load range and you'll find irrespective of it's cost savings LPG is actually the best fuel for your Rover V8 TVR. Unlike petrol and being a gas LPG does not wash the off your bores,while LPG is still a hydrocarbon it only has three carbon atoms against the seven present in petrol, all this means less engine wear, longer oil change intervals and vastly reduced emissions too.
On the Canems system my Chimaera runs better on petrol that you could ever make the car run on the old 14CUX and distributor system, but switch to LPG and this advantage becomes even greater, if I compare the way my Chimaera drives on gas with how it drove on petrol using the the old 14CUX and distributor system it's literally night and day better. I've lost no performance and by cleverly stacking the LPG tanks against the rear bulkhead where the petrol tank was I've lost no real boot space either. The car retains it's 300 mile petrol range on gas and adds a further 150 miles should I wish to make use of my auxiliary petrol tank.
These days with the moderd systems and components available there really are no downsides to LPG, only benefits. Vastly improved drivability comes with 45-50mpg average petrol cost equivalent fuel economy making my TVR as cheap to run as my wife's 1.4 litre Nissan Micra, best of all the conversion has now paid for itself in fuel savings making it the only self funding engine management update on a TVR there's ever been because while you may get some small gains in petrol economy moving to a stand alone engine management system it will likely take you 100,000 miles before those savings cover the cost of adding such a system.
I honestly don't understand why more people don't convert their Rover V8 TVR to gas, the fuel is super cheap and available everywhere, and implemented correctly LPG actually makes the car far far nicer to drive, I guess old preduces die hard
Classic Chim said:
They exist and are on the Hungarian border I seem to think!
Thanks for informing me where Holland is
My spelling is likely incorrect.
Look up Odin Verpoorten on Facebook or online for Verboorten Technique
Check their prices on restoration work. You might be able to buy a basket case over here and they transform it there, might work out cheaper for you if paying 12/14k for a good example here is to expensive.
All the best mate.
You welcome Thanks for informing me where Holland is
My spelling is likely incorrect.
Look up Odin Verpoorten on Facebook or online for Verboorten Technique
Check their prices on restoration work. You might be able to buy a basket case over here and they transform it there, might work out cheaper for you if paying 12/14k for a good example here is to expensive.
All the best mate.
quite a few people do not realise how far East Bulgaria actually is and many "Brits" think driving to France is a long way. Also I never said £12,000 is too expensive £14,000 would strain the budget to buy at that price as there is still transportation/delivery plus registration here to consider.Now have looked at and bookmarked their site. Their transport is not cheap at over 800 Euro from UK and that is just to their base in Hungary it seems.
Now insurance is a totally different ball game here you get basic 3rd party cover with your road tax they you can get more cover if you wish. It seems that providing you register the car here insurance is not a problem unlike the UK they insure the car not the person.
ChimpOnGas said:
To be honest even in this country if executed correctly LPG in a Rover V8 engined TVR is a no-brainer, these are extremely practical traditional analogue sports cars that can easily be used on a regular basis were it not for their prodigious thirst for fuel. The only practical way to address this issue is not to try to make the car more economical on petrol because no matter what you do the gains here will always be small, the solution comes in the form of a LPG which is half the price of petrol and readily available across a huge network of stations most of which you will currently be visiting to fill up with petrol anyway.
LPG is the worlds third most commonly used fuel for passenger vehicles, while we may not see as much take up here in the UK there are many countries globally where LPG is significantly more commonplace that petrol. While here on our tiny island we see LPG as a problematic niche market fuel elsewhere it is viewed as completely normal to run vehicles on gas, literally millions of vehicles consume this fuel on a daily basis from Japan to Brazil and Australia to France, Germany, Italy, Poland ect ect, ect. ect. Personally I have not burnt petrol in my Chimaera in years and cringe at the thought of having to shell out for it, you very quickly get used to £33.00 (300 mile) fills, so going back to paying the best part of £70.00 to cover the same distance seems ridiculous to me these and would dictate I simply wouldn't get to enjoy my Chimaera nearly as much if I had to return to petrol.
Some may argue a sports car should not be converted to LPG, this nonsense always comes from people who don't understand the fuel and how it behaves/burns, these naysayers typically have a very poor and outdated understanding of the sophisticated modern systems used to deliver it. These days electronic LPG injection systems are the equal of petrol injection systems so the days of losing performance and drivability are long gone, unfortunately the stigma of the old dreadful single point systems hangs on but that's like saying petrol is a poor fuel because you're delivering it to the engine using the very most basic carburetor as this is effectively what an old single point LPG system uses.
The Rover V8 TVRs are actually perfect candidates for a proper up to date LPG conversion using a modern advanced LPG delivery system, and the Chimaera with it's huge boot is best of them all. To put people's minds at rest further it should be pointed out that traditionally one of the most converted vehicles in the UK and Australia has been the Rover V8 engined Rage Rover (& Discovery), literally tens of thousands of these vehicles have been successfully converted to LPG. Usually this is done later in the vehicle's life when there's 80,000 miles or more on the clock, the engine then goes on to cover another 100,000 miles solely consuming LPG proving this engine is extremely gas friendly mostly because it uses very hard valve seats and high quality valves.
When I converted my Chimaera to LPG some 5 years ago I took the opportunity to replace the old Lucas 14CUX fuel only ECU and very outdated distributor ignition system with an updated full fuel & spark mappable engine management system, this gave significant benefits on petrol alone as many others making this change have found when fitting similar systems from MBE, Emerald, DTA, MegaSquirt ect ect ect. By selecting the Canems dual fuel system not only was I able to tap into all the benefits of such stand alone full engine management systems on petrol, but at a flick of a switch I could run the car on LPG in a super efficient way.
It goes without saying the car drives infinitely better on petrol than it ever did on the virtually unmappable 14CUX and antiquated distributor, but what may surprise you is on LPG it drives even better still. Rather than ruining the cars drivabily LPG actually enhanced the already vastly improved petrol drivability This may seem counterintuative to those who mistakenly believe LPG is fuel that means reduced performance and poor engine behaviour but by moving to a more modern engine management system with a massively more powerful and integrated ignition system one is able to directly manipulate the unique ignition and fuel map to optimise LPG performance, it's a little known fact LPG is actually a high octane fuel at 110Ron far more ignition advance can be applied early on to take advantage of the way the fuel behaves.
When burning LPG correctly idle quality and smoothness is greatly enhanced and there's a substantial increase in low end torque, this is because the burn rate of LPG is slightly slower and much more complete than petrol, being a gas the fuel mixes far more readily with air (also a gas) than a liquid fuel like petrol will. Due to its structure and mass petrol (especially at low piston/air speeds) tends to fall out of suspension with the air you're trying to mix it with, this formis puddles of fuel on the floor of the inlet manifold which does not make for a stable idle especially in an engine like the Rover V8 that has a very poor inlet manifold and combustion chamber design by modern standards. LPG on the other hand can't form such puddles as it mixes with air perfectly, so as it turns out rather than reducing performance and making the car drive worse LPG is actually the worlds best drivabilty improver bar none!
Get the delivery system right using modern LPG system components (quality injectors & vaporiser are key here) and tune the ignition system to give the optimal 3D map across the entire engine speed/engine load range and you'll find irrespective of it's cost savings LPG is actually the best fuel for your Rover V8 TVR. Unlike petrol and being a gas LPG does not wash the off your bores,while LPG is still a hydrocarbon it only has three carbon atoms against the seven present in petrol, all this means less engine wear, longer oil change intervals and vastly reduced emissions too.
On the Canems system my Chimaera runs better on petrol that you could ever make the car run on the old 14CUX and distributor system, but switch to LPG and this advantage becomes even greater, if I compare the way my Chimaera drives on gas with how it drove on petrol using the the old 14CUX and distributor system it's literally night and day better. I've lost no performance and by cleverly stacking the LPG tanks against the rear bulkhead where the petrol tank was I've lost no real boot space either. The car retains it's 300 mile petrol range on gas and adds a further 150 miles should I wish to make use of my auxiliary petrol tank.
These days with the moderd systems and components available there really are no downsides to LPG, only benefits. Vastly improved drivability comes with 45-50mpg average petrol cost equivalent fuel economy making my TVR as cheap to run as my wife's 1.4 litre Nissan Micra, best of all the conversion has now paid for itself in fuel savings making it the only self funding engine management update on a TVR there's ever been because while you may get some small gains in petrol economy moving to a stand alone engine management system it will likely take you 100,000 miles before those savings cover the cost of adding such a system.
I honestly don't understand why more people don't convert their Rover V8 TVR to gas, the fuel is super cheap and available everywhere, and implemented correctly LPG actually makes the car far far nicer to drive, I guess old preduces die hard
Well you that LPG is something that I have been considering but right now it is not going to fit into the budget so will make further enquiries out here at a later date about costs of fitting and conversion. For now let's concentrate of getting the Chimaera and getting it here.LPG is the worlds third most commonly used fuel for passenger vehicles, while we may not see as much take up here in the UK there are many countries globally where LPG is significantly more commonplace that petrol. While here on our tiny island we see LPG as a problematic niche market fuel elsewhere it is viewed as completely normal to run vehicles on gas, literally millions of vehicles consume this fuel on a daily basis from Japan to Brazil and Australia to France, Germany, Italy, Poland ect ect, ect. ect. Personally I have not burnt petrol in my Chimaera in years and cringe at the thought of having to shell out for it, you very quickly get used to £33.00 (300 mile) fills, so going back to paying the best part of £70.00 to cover the same distance seems ridiculous to me these and would dictate I simply wouldn't get to enjoy my Chimaera nearly as much if I had to return to petrol.
Some may argue a sports car should not be converted to LPG, this nonsense always comes from people who don't understand the fuel and how it behaves/burns, these naysayers typically have a very poor and outdated understanding of the sophisticated modern systems used to deliver it. These days electronic LPG injection systems are the equal of petrol injection systems so the days of losing performance and drivability are long gone, unfortunately the stigma of the old dreadful single point systems hangs on but that's like saying petrol is a poor fuel because you're delivering it to the engine using the very most basic carburetor as this is effectively what an old single point LPG system uses.
The Rover V8 TVRs are actually perfect candidates for a proper up to date LPG conversion using a modern advanced LPG delivery system, and the Chimaera with it's huge boot is best of them all. To put people's minds at rest further it should be pointed out that traditionally one of the most converted vehicles in the UK and Australia has been the Rover V8 engined Rage Rover (& Discovery), literally tens of thousands of these vehicles have been successfully converted to LPG. Usually this is done later in the vehicle's life when there's 80,000 miles or more on the clock, the engine then goes on to cover another 100,000 miles solely consuming LPG proving this engine is extremely gas friendly mostly because it uses very hard valve seats and high quality valves.
When I converted my Chimaera to LPG some 5 years ago I took the opportunity to replace the old Lucas 14CUX fuel only ECU and very outdated distributor ignition system with an updated full fuel & spark mappable engine management system, this gave significant benefits on petrol alone as many others making this change have found when fitting similar systems from MBE, Emerald, DTA, MegaSquirt ect ect ect. By selecting the Canems dual fuel system not only was I able to tap into all the benefits of such stand alone full engine management systems on petrol, but at a flick of a switch I could run the car on LPG in a super efficient way.
It goes without saying the car drives infinitely better on petrol than it ever did on the virtually unmappable 14CUX and antiquated distributor, but what may surprise you is on LPG it drives even better still. Rather than ruining the cars drivabily LPG actually enhanced the already vastly improved petrol drivability This may seem counterintuative to those who mistakenly believe LPG is fuel that means reduced performance and poor engine behaviour but by moving to a more modern engine management system with a massively more powerful and integrated ignition system one is able to directly manipulate the unique ignition and fuel map to optimise LPG performance, it's a little known fact LPG is actually a high octane fuel at 110Ron far more ignition advance can be applied early on to take advantage of the way the fuel behaves.
When burning LPG correctly idle quality and smoothness is greatly enhanced and there's a substantial increase in low end torque, this is because the burn rate of LPG is slightly slower and much more complete than petrol, being a gas the fuel mixes far more readily with air (also a gas) than a liquid fuel like petrol will. Due to its structure and mass petrol (especially at low piston/air speeds) tends to fall out of suspension with the air you're trying to mix it with, this formis puddles of fuel on the floor of the inlet manifold which does not make for a stable idle especially in an engine like the Rover V8 that has a very poor inlet manifold and combustion chamber design by modern standards. LPG on the other hand can't form such puddles as it mixes with air perfectly, so as it turns out rather than reducing performance and making the car drive worse LPG is actually the worlds best drivabilty improver bar none!
Get the delivery system right using modern LPG system components (quality injectors & vaporiser are key here) and tune the ignition system to give the optimal 3D map across the entire engine speed/engine load range and you'll find irrespective of it's cost savings LPG is actually the best fuel for your Rover V8 TVR. Unlike petrol and being a gas LPG does not wash the off your bores,while LPG is still a hydrocarbon it only has three carbon atoms against the seven present in petrol, all this means less engine wear, longer oil change intervals and vastly reduced emissions too.
On the Canems system my Chimaera runs better on petrol that you could ever make the car run on the old 14CUX and distributor system, but switch to LPG and this advantage becomes even greater, if I compare the way my Chimaera drives on gas with how it drove on petrol using the the old 14CUX and distributor system it's literally night and day better. I've lost no performance and by cleverly stacking the LPG tanks against the rear bulkhead where the petrol tank was I've lost no real boot space either. The car retains it's 300 mile petrol range on gas and adds a further 150 miles should I wish to make use of my auxiliary petrol tank.
These days with the moderd systems and components available there really are no downsides to LPG, only benefits. Vastly improved drivability comes with 45-50mpg average petrol cost equivalent fuel economy making my TVR as cheap to run as my wife's 1.4 litre Nissan Micra, best of all the conversion has now paid for itself in fuel savings making it the only self funding engine management update on a TVR there's ever been because while you may get some small gains in petrol economy moving to a stand alone engine management system it will likely take you 100,000 miles before those savings cover the cost of adding such a system.
I honestly don't understand why more people don't convert their Rover V8 TVR to gas, the fuel is super cheap and available everywhere, and implemented correctly LPG actually makes the car far far nicer to drive, I guess old preduces die hard
Brithunter said:
You welcome quite a few people do not realise how far East Bulgaria actually is and many "Brits" think driving to France is a long way. Also I never said £12,000 is too expensive £14,000 would strain the budget to buy at that price as there is still transportation/delivery plus registration here to consider.
Now have looked at and bookmarked their site. Their transport is not cheap at over 800 Euro from UK and that is just to their base in Hungary it seems.
Now insurance is a totally different ball game here you get basic 3rd party cover with your road tax they you can get more cover if you wish. It seems that providing you register the car here insurance is not a problem unlike the UK they insure the car not the person.
Are you sure mate? You have the circulation tax which is annual, and you must provide proof of payment for your 'MOT' each year in order to pass, then you have the choice of either 3rd party liability insurance (which is about 150 quid), or CASCO, which is basically fully comp and I think costs 4% of the value of the car (could be mistaken on the cost). Either one allows anyone to drive your car, but they are not included in the 'road tax'. Then there is the vignette which is only if you want to drive on the Motorways or outside the limits of the district your car is registered and costs around 40 eur a year. quite a few people do not realise how far East Bulgaria actually is and many "Brits" think driving to France is a long way. Also I never said £12,000 is too expensive £14,000 would strain the budget to buy at that price as there is still transportation/delivery plus registration here to consider.Now have looked at and bookmarked their site. Their transport is not cheap at over 800 Euro from UK and that is just to their base in Hungary it seems.
Now insurance is a totally different ball game here you get basic 3rd party cover with your road tax they you can get more cover if you wish. It seems that providing you register the car here insurance is not a problem unlike the UK they insure the car not the person.
Mushroom12 said:
Are you sure mate? You have the circulation tax which is annual, and you must provide proof of payment for your 'MOT' each year in order to pass, then you have the choice of either 3rd party liability insurance (which is about 150 quid), or CASCO, which is basically fully comp and I think costs 4% of the value of the car (could be mistaken on the cost). Either one allows anyone to drive your car, but they are not included in the 'road tax'. Then there is the vignette which is only if you want to drive on the Motorways or outside the limits of the district your car is registered and costs around 40 eur a year.
No I am not sure as it all seems confusing epsecially about cars that come under the over 100kw threshold. It is just more to discover.Brithunter said:
Mushroom12 said:
Are you sure mate? You have the circulation tax which is annual, and you must provide proof of payment for your 'MOT' each year in order to pass, then you have the choice of either 3rd party liability insurance (which is about 150 quid), or CASCO, which is basically fully comp and I think costs 4% of the value of the car (could be mistaken on the cost). Either one allows anyone to drive your car, but they are not included in the 'road tax'. Then there is the vignette which is only if you want to drive on the Motorways or outside the limits of the district your car is registered and costs around 40 eur a year.
No I am not sure as it all seems confusing epsecially about cars that come under the over 100kw threshold. It is just more to discover.QBee said:
Sounds like that cart needs to come before the TVR purchase horse.......
Ahhh QBee the problem here is that the tax prices vary with each district. Sofia is expensive, cities are more expensive than the villages and smaller towns so due to the confusion I shall most like be using the services of a company called "Bulgarian Plates" who charge 179 Euros according to their web site for the service.I shall also check with our lawyer and see if he can help and the charge for this if he can assist.
Brithunter said:
QBee said:
Saw a nice red 51 plate MX5 1.8 for sale on Faceache. Fresh MOT, owner is a TVR owner. Wants £800 for it.........
Is the 1.8 a V8? ......... if not your point is what exactly?Plus mazda is not a TVR unless I am extremely mistaken!
I guess I am just worried about your budget, the difficulties and cost of importing, registration and insurance, and then maintenance.
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