Tumbles Dryers, heat pump, condenser or vented?
Discussion
We have a dead 20 year old Creda vented TD which has been passed around the family. I am pretty sure it's either a belt or drum, seeing as its sponsored by the Scottish Power it's getting replaced by a new one.
We have normally always gone Bosch as there stuff has lasted for 12 years and counting across washing machines, fridges and dishwashers. However, regardless of type which.com and John Lewis customer feedback for all Bosch machines seems to be marmite. Either clothes get dried or they remain damp even when programs get tweaked to run a timed cycle vs auto cut off.
So, the last one used to almost set fire to clothes, so need a machine which will deffinately get things dried. Budget is £300-650ish. If I saw a Miele with 10 year warranty I would think about, failing that should I just get the cheapest most inefficient one and replace when it blows up?
Thoughts on peoples experiences on newish models would be helpful.
Thanks.
We have normally always gone Bosch as there stuff has lasted for 12 years and counting across washing machines, fridges and dishwashers. However, regardless of type which.com and John Lewis customer feedback for all Bosch machines seems to be marmite. Either clothes get dried or they remain damp even when programs get tweaked to run a timed cycle vs auto cut off.
So, the last one used to almost set fire to clothes, so need a machine which will deffinately get things dried. Budget is £300-650ish. If I saw a Miele with 10 year warranty I would think about, failing that should I just get the cheapest most inefficient one and replace when it blows up?
Thoughts on peoples experiences on newish models would be helpful.
Thanks.
No direct experience yet but have been reading plenty (including previous threads here).
There is no perfect drier at present IMO.
Venteds are quickest but cost the most to run. Heat pumps cost least to run but take longest to dry. Condensing sit in the middle.
Latter two do not require a vent hole. Can be plumbed to waste to avoid having to empty the drawer on many/most.
Safety is a big issue for me. I think this leans me towards condensing or heat pump, and away from Whirlpool and Bosch groups.
I suspect I'll be buying an LG condensing machine. We've had great experience with their washers.
Dryer will be in a fire rated utility room that I'm just having built - yes, I'm that paranoid
There is no perfect drier at present IMO.
Venteds are quickest but cost the most to run. Heat pumps cost least to run but take longest to dry. Condensing sit in the middle.
Latter two do not require a vent hole. Can be plumbed to waste to avoid having to empty the drawer on many/most.
Safety is a big issue for me. I think this leans me towards condensing or heat pump, and away from Whirlpool and Bosch groups.
I suspect I'll be buying an LG condensing machine. We've had great experience with their washers.
Dryer will be in a fire rated utility room that I'm just having built - yes, I'm that paranoid
We bought a Bosch condensing drier (WTB84200GB) from John Lewis, amid concerns from the mixed reviews.
If you use the (from memory) 'cupboard dry' setting, i.e. the second driest sensor setting then it doesn't dry your washing very well. The 'extra dry' setting works every time though.
We've been very pleasantly surprised by it and it's far quicker than we expected.
If you use the (from memory) 'cupboard dry' setting, i.e. the second driest sensor setting then it doesn't dry your washing very well. The 'extra dry' setting works every time though.
We've been very pleasantly surprised by it and it's far quicker than we expected.
A new belt for your old one is only a fiver.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/CREDA-T520VW-TUMBLE-DRYE...
The several hundred pounds you save by not buying a new one will subsidise it's inefficiency for a very long time.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/CREDA-T520VW-TUMBLE-DRYE...
The several hundred pounds you save by not buying a new one will subsidise it's inefficiency for a very long time.
archie456 said:
We bought a Bosch condensing drier (WTB84200GB) from John Lewis, amid concerns from the mixed reviews.
If you use the (from memory) 'cupboard dry' setting, i.e. the second driest sensor setting then it doesn't dry your washing very well. The 'extra dry' setting works every time though.
We've been very pleasantly surprised by it and it's far quicker than we expected.
We have the same one, and likewise are very pleased with it, a full load never takes more than an hour. If you use the (from memory) 'cupboard dry' setting, i.e. the second driest sensor setting then it doesn't dry your washing very well. The 'extra dry' setting works every time though.
We've been very pleasantly surprised by it and it's far quicker than we expected.
Like all sensor machines which I have used, it has about 15 "not dry" settings and one "actually dry" setting. I don't know who the former are for, but once I found the latter I was happy.
One benefit of a condenser model is that all of the heat remains in your house, so regardless of the efficiency rating, none of the energy is wasted.
grahamr88 said:
We have the same one, and likewise are very pleased with it, a full load never takes more than an hour.
Like all sensor machines which I have used, it has about 15 "not dry" settings and one "actually dry" setting. I don't know who the former are for, but once I found the latter I was happy.
One benefit of a condenser model is that all of the heat remains in your house, so regardless of the efficiency rating, none of the energy is wasted.
I mentioned this to my wife and she told me some of the other settings are if you want to use a device called an iron.Like all sensor machines which I have used, it has about 15 "not dry" settings and one "actually dry" setting. I don't know who the former are for, but once I found the latter I was happy.
One benefit of a condenser model is that all of the heat remains in your house, so regardless of the efficiency rating, none of the energy is wasted.
Got the Bosch heat pump and codensor a few years ago, followed my nose through the Which tests. (model no longer sold I think). Superb bit of kit. Might take longer than a vented but needs no vent holes and way cheaper to run. Man maffs says 4 years to break even over a vented.
However, lack of faff with a vent, no steam and condensation on cold winter days. Never going back to a vented standard jobby.
One thing we picked up on was the amount of condensate that was removed from the exhaust. Less removed, and I think you get steamy windows.
No issues with damp finish on the cupboard dry setting and others, whack it on for 20 minute quick cycle. Thing is so cheap to run the meter won’t notice.
However, lack of faff with a vent, no steam and condensation on cold winter days. Never going back to a vented standard jobby.
One thing we picked up on was the amount of condensate that was removed from the exhaust. Less removed, and I think you get steamy windows.
No issues with damp finish on the cupboard dry setting and others, whack it on for 20 minute quick cycle. Thing is so cheap to run the meter won’t notice.
I've got a Bosch heat pump and it's great. Previously I had a cheap condensor and as I have solar panels with a smart meter type bit of kit I could compare the approx energy consumption. Heat pump seems to run in the region of half a kilowatt hr, condenser was 4-5 times higher. Heatpump version also has a higher load capacity and cycle times are similar. It will take some time to break even versus a cheapo machine but from an environmental perspective it's great.
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