TVR back to LM.........

TVR back to LM.........

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wst

3,494 posts

162 months

Friday 6th April 2018
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m4tti said:
I doubt they’ll get any relevant data from this car.. as it will have fark all to do with any car they’re producing.
It's less about the actual car this year, it'll be about logistics and all the boring off-track admin. Using the Rebellion/Oreca which is a proven package allows them to get more experience and bang-for-buck before going through the massive NRE of starting a race team from scratch.

Personally I'm excited about this because it means next year I could be campaigning a TVR P1 car at the slot car version of Le Mans laugh

Tyre Smoke

23,018 posts

262 months

Friday 6th April 2018
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rev-erend said:
Excellent news - will really make watching Le Mans much more interesting
Sorry what?

Three stickers on a car will make watching Le Mans more interesting? Really?

You absolute gushing fool.

spagbogdog

764 posts

261 months

Friday 6th April 2018
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redcard
Bit harsh..!!

‘Taxi’ for Tyre Smoke
hehe

Truckosaurus

11,329 posts

285 months

Friday 6th April 2018
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Tyre Smoke said:
You absolute gushing fool.
Classic. biggrin

It's also a good move by TVR as there will be a couple of Ginetta branded cars in LMP1, so they'll be plenty of mentions of both brands in relation to each other.

rev-erend

21,421 posts

285 months

Friday 6th April 2018
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Tyre Smoke said:
rev-erend said:
Excellent news - will really make watching Le Mans much more interesting
Sorry what?

Three stickers on a car will make watching Le Mans more interesting? Really?

You absolute gushing fool.
Cheers.

Enjoy your day.

DS240

4,678 posts

219 months

Friday 6th April 2018
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S6PNJ said:
https://www.motul.com/gb/en/news/group-partners/tv...

So what exactly are TVR contributing to Rebellion Racing? Chassis (nope), Engine (nope), Manpower (possibly) or what else? some spanners?
.... some stickers.

Talksteer

4,887 posts

234 months

Friday 6th April 2018
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Max_Torque said:
Does TVR need "brand visibility" ??

Surely just getting on an releasing a decent road car will do it?

Does anyone who watches circuit racing care enough to buy a TVR road car because an entirely different car won some race or other?

Back in the 1990's maybe, in 2018, i'm a lot less certain?
It hasn't done Ferrari any harm in the long term.

If you are selling a sports car winning helps, it's less apparent what Mercedes gets out of f1

DS240

4,678 posts

219 months

Friday 6th April 2018
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I’d love to see a GTE version of the new car at Le Mans.

Plucky, underdog British team back at Le Mans. It would be a fan favorite.

Though I think the company needs to get their road car out and make it a credible competitor to the likes of Porsche first.

I fear a big racing return too soon could lead to bankruptcy.

Can’t say a set of stickers on someone else’s car will get me too excited about TVR. Maybe they’ll have a spot in the village with a rebellion liveried road car prototype for brand awareness.

I find the Alfa Romeo-Sauber and Aston Martin-red bull connections very hollow. Anyone with any real interest knows it’s a set of stickers added to the car rather than company involvement.

Jurgen Schmidt

824 posts

202 months

Friday 6th April 2018
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It'll be nice to see them out in the public domain, promoting their brand.... And then hopefully one day with a GTE version, as others have said

RichB

51,605 posts

285 months

Friday 6th April 2018
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DS240 said:
I find the Alfa Romeo-Sauber and Aston Martin-red bull connections very hollow.
At least the Sauber uses a Fiat engine...

m4tti

5,427 posts

156 months

Friday 6th April 2018
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Talksteer said:
Max_Torque said:
Does TVR need "brand visibility" ??

Surely just getting on an releasing a decent road car will do it?

Does anyone who watches circuit racing care enough to buy a TVR road car because an entirely different car won some race or other?

Back in the 1990's maybe, in 2018, i'm a lot less certain?
It hasn't done Ferrari any harm in the long term.

If you are selling a sports car winning helps, it's less apparent what Mercedes gets out of f1
Uhh Ferrari build and race they’re own cars. They sticker up push bikes hehe

blearyeyedboy

6,305 posts

180 months

Friday 6th April 2018
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406dogvan said:
This all said, resurrecting long-dead brands and slapping them into other cars has not, historically, ended well for anyone?
Really?





Let's face it, this Rebellion Oreca-Gibson is a stickers-and-nothing-else job, but it gets TVR's name out there, and that's a start. No one will buy a TVR outside of the UK if they've never heard of it, and only international exposure will change that.

ellroy

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7,038 posts

226 months

Friday 6th April 2018
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bullittmcqueen

1,256 posts

92 months

Friday 6th April 2018
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ellroy said:
Cool article, thx.

Explains everything and their approach makes sense and is well-planned. We will see the Griff in Les Mans, but they are not yet allowed to and it would not yet make sense if it was.


bullittmcqueen

1,256 posts

92 months

Friday 6th April 2018
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ellroy said:
From the article:

... Edgar said many race-inspired elements have been incorporated into the new-generation road car, such as a wider chassis and aero elements at the rear. ....

I think i remember that this was something GM had a significant impact on (googling .... )

yep here it is from ( https://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars/future-cars/... )


.... Edgar told me TVR had no chance of messing up the engineering part, since after getting their target figures, Gordon Murray set to work. Then, on day one, he stood up to TVR's board and gave them his iStream chassis design telling them: "this is your chassis, don’t change it." ....

I think the wide chassis is one of the main drivers for the smiley looking front-discussion as they had to work the front around it. Car is relatively "square".


Ah, also found something about the wing: ( something i was looking for confirmation on):

.. the car was "properly engineered." That means a lot coming from him. Mr. Murray also told me that the car's rear wing will be retractable in production form, which isn't too surprising knowing how much he prefers clean lines over shouty aerodynamic aids. ....

ellroy

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7,038 posts

226 months

Friday 6th April 2018
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Who’d have thought we’d ever get the chance to see Prost, Piquet and Senna all racing for TVR...

m4tti

5,427 posts

156 months

Friday 6th April 2018
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ellroy said:
Who’d have thought we’d ever get the chance to see Prost, Piquet and Senna all racing for TVR...
They’re not... they’re racing for rebellion rofl

ellroy

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7,038 posts

226 months

Friday 6th April 2018
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Perhaps a flock of parrots one of which is a Norwegian Blue.....

Edited by ellroy on Friday 6th April 18:03

m4tti

5,427 posts

156 months

Friday 6th April 2018
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ellroy said:
Perhaps a flock of parrots....
Hahahah goddd dammit. It’s hard to distinguish though the bong smokers from the those living in reality hehe



Manufacturers sneaking their badges on totally unrelated cars is a tried and tested route to hilarity

Edited by m4tti on Friday 6th April 18:24

Tyre Smoke

23,018 posts

262 months

Friday 6th April 2018
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A lot of fanboys desperately trying to make this out to be anything more than a bloke who owns a brand paying another company some money to put his brand on theirs.

There still hasn't been a new TVR registered since the last Sagaris. When is the first of newgen TVR due?