TVR back to LM.........
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I was there in 2004 when TVR got both cars to the finish. It was genuinely exciting watching the last few hours, having a beer by the TVR bus with Peter Wheeler sitting on the roof and Ben dancing round like an excited puppy. These were TVRs, similar to the T cars you could buy and everyone was delighted when both cars finally appeared around the Porsche Curves to complete the 24 Hours. Somehow I just can't see how it will be the same cheering on a Rebellion car. 
RichB said:
I was there in 2004 when TVR got both cars to the finish. It was genuinely exciting watching the last few hours, having a beer by the TVR bus with Peter Wheeler sitting on the roof and Ben dancing round like an excited puppy. These were TVRs, similar to the T cars you could buy and everyone was delighted when both cars finally appeared around the Porsche Curves to complete the 24 Hours. Somehow I just can't see how it will be the same cheering on a Rebellion car.
Did you read the article ?This is just the entry, they are not yet allowed to run the Griff as it must be in production before they can race it. They plan to be there with the Griff in 2020/21. Which i still find ambitious, but give or take a year, the Griff will race.
V6Pushfit said:
I’ll be there and it’s added a new dimension to what will already be a cracking weekend.
I do find it s bit odd though, considering the backlash they will get from devotees that it’s just a sticker.
I believe from a business sense the devotees don't really matter. There's people who aren't aware that TVR are back, who would actually quite like one.I do find it s bit odd though, considering the backlash they will get from devotees that it’s just a sticker.
Lots of people still b
hing that "that's not a TVR it's a sticker" and completely failing to understand the point of this exercise.1) Not spending money and time developing a race car while there's still no road car on sale.
2) Attracting potential customers so when the road car does go on sale, it sells.
3) Not having to worry about using an unproven car in a gruelling race series and potentially making the brand weaker. It really, really can't afford that.
bullittmcqueen said:
Did you read the article ?
This is just the entry, they are not yet allowed to run the Griff as it must be in production before they can race it. They plan to be there with the Griff in 2020/21. Which i still find ambitious, but give or take a year, the Griff will race.
This is just the entry, they are not yet allowed to run the Griff as it must be in production before they can race it. They plan to be there with the Griff in 2020/21. Which i still find ambitious, but give or take a year, the Griff will race.
this is almost painful to read.. these sort of posts are the stuff of salemens dreams. Edited by m4tti on Friday 6th April 22:35
Edited by m4tti on Friday 6th April 22:37
RichB said:
I was there in 2004 when TVR got both cars to the finish. It was genuinely exciting watching the last few hours, having a beer by the TVR bus with Peter Wheeler sitting on the roof and Ben dancing round like an excited puppy. These were TVRs, similar to the T cars you could buy and everyone was delighted when both cars finally appeared around the Porsche Curves to complete the 24 Hours. Somehow I just can't see how it will be the same cheering on a Rebellion car.
The REAL TVR Le Mans cars sounded awesome. The manifold configuration was something I wanted to do on my speed six but never got round to it RichB said:
bullittmcqueen said:
Did you read the article ?
Of course. I said it was exciting watching TVRs complete the 24 Hours in 2004. What's your point?http://sportscar365.com/lemans/wec/tvr-targeting-g...
TVR Targeting GTE Effort for 2020
I was under the impression that you (and others, please correct me if i'm wrong) were implying that putting a TVR sticker on a Rebellion car was the "great return to Les Mans" and that that is not the same as seeing a car race, that looks like something you can buy.
So i don't get your point, because they will do exactly what you ask for, just not yet. Until then the stickers will have to do.
fatbutt said:
Jeez guys, this is a start, not the end.
Its a means to get the TVR name back into circulation. Its cheap, simple and effective.
It indicates a thoughtful and managed approach to introducing a name back into the limelight. Why all the hate?!
This !Its a means to get the TVR name back into circulation. Its cheap, simple and effective.
It indicates a thoughtful and managed approach to introducing a name back into the limelight. Why all the hate?!
I don't see how this is bad for the brand in any way, shape or form.
Les Edgar is no mug.
TVR is working to be on the grid in the FIA World Endurance Championship and 24 Hours of Le Mans with a factory GTE-Pro operation, according to chairman Les Edgar.
Edgar has reaffirmed plans to race the newly launched TVR Griffith in the top production-based class, potentially by as early as the 2020-21 season, to coincide with the next cycle of GTE regulations.
It comes on the heels of the British manufacturer committing to a multi-year partnership with Rebellion Racing for sponsorship of the Swiss squad’s Rebellion R13 Gibsons in the LMP1 class.
“We do intend to go GT racing,” Edgar told Sportscar365. “I’d like to think that our long-term relationship with Rebellion will assist us in our challenge.
“There are technical aspects of our relationship that we will feed through from the team to our road cars. But it’s the start of a long-term thing, and I’m sure it’s going to be successful.”
Edgar previously declared ambitions of taking the manufacturer back to Le Mans, having last been represented on the grid in 2005 with a GT2-class TVR Tuscan T400R.
The former video game developer, who took over ownership of TVR in 2013, launched the Cosworth-powered, Gordon Murray-designed Giffith at the Goodwood Revival last year, with it scheduled to go into production next year.
“I think realistically we had earmarked 2020 for our return to Le Mans,” Edgar said. “There is a new set of regulations, and we’ve been looking closely at that.”
GTE rules require a minimum production of 300 road cars within the first 24 months of the first day of production, and at least 100 units produced before the end of the first year of WEC competition.
worth reading it all. - http://sportscar365.com/lemans/wec/tvr-targeting-g...
Edgar has reaffirmed plans to race the newly launched TVR Griffith in the top production-based class, potentially by as early as the 2020-21 season, to coincide with the next cycle of GTE regulations.
It comes on the heels of the British manufacturer committing to a multi-year partnership with Rebellion Racing for sponsorship of the Swiss squad’s Rebellion R13 Gibsons in the LMP1 class.
“We do intend to go GT racing,” Edgar told Sportscar365. “I’d like to think that our long-term relationship with Rebellion will assist us in our challenge.
“There are technical aspects of our relationship that we will feed through from the team to our road cars. But it’s the start of a long-term thing, and I’m sure it’s going to be successful.”
Edgar previously declared ambitions of taking the manufacturer back to Le Mans, having last been represented on the grid in 2005 with a GT2-class TVR Tuscan T400R.
The former video game developer, who took over ownership of TVR in 2013, launched the Cosworth-powered, Gordon Murray-designed Giffith at the Goodwood Revival last year, with it scheduled to go into production next year.
“I think realistically we had earmarked 2020 for our return to Le Mans,” Edgar said. “There is a new set of regulations, and we’ve been looking closely at that.”
GTE rules require a minimum production of 300 road cars within the first 24 months of the first day of production, and at least 100 units produced before the end of the first year of WEC competition.
worth reading it all. - http://sportscar365.com/lemans/wec/tvr-targeting-g...
bullittmcqueen said:
I was under the impression that you (and others were implying that putting a TVR sticker on a Rebellion car was the "great return to Les Mans"
I like the sound of that, or even L. E. Mans. 
Freudian slip perhaps?
I think this is a well thought-out step on the road to achieving Les's burning ambition as well as boosting brand awareness.
Good positive stuff.
Actually Renault/Alpine have just done this very successfully. Two seasons (or is it three?) of branding an LMP2 team and now the successful introduction of a new road car that is well liked.
Of course TVR have to engineer a new road car that leaves a big impression and is well liked, just like Alpine have done, All the stages of this process have to be right, and that takes time, and the more thorough they are and the longer it takes the better. In the meantime the TVR name is refreshed and kept current, giving them the possibilty of a new start that is taken seriously.
The old TVR is dead, enjoy your memories but dont expect that the new company to be like the past, that business and engineering model will no longer work. Frankly TVR are going to need an appropriate economy to be successful when a new road car goes on sale, sportscars and economic dips dont go together!
Good luck to all involved at the new company, please dont water down Gordon Murray's concepts.
Of course TVR have to engineer a new road car that leaves a big impression and is well liked, just like Alpine have done, All the stages of this process have to be right, and that takes time, and the more thorough they are and the longer it takes the better. In the meantime the TVR name is refreshed and kept current, giving them the possibilty of a new start that is taken seriously.
The old TVR is dead, enjoy your memories but dont expect that the new company to be like the past, that business and engineering model will no longer work. Frankly TVR are going to need an appropriate economy to be successful when a new road car goes on sale, sportscars and economic dips dont go together!
Good luck to all involved at the new company, please dont water down Gordon Murray's concepts.
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