New TVR still under wraps! (Vol. 2)

New TVR still under wraps! (Vol. 2)

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Tyre Tread

10,534 posts

216 months

Tuesday 3rd December 2019
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Byker28i said:
N7GTX said:
You can't just take a former miner and expect him to know all this. wink
Is that insulting the welsh, thinking they are just ex-miners? There's not really been any mining for the last 20 years.
Ebbw Vale is absolutely crammed with business parks
https://businesswales.gov.wales/enterprisezones/zo...
If their car building skills are anything like their business management skills then we can give up any hope now.

PuffsBack

2,430 posts

225 months

Tuesday 3rd December 2019
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El stovey said:
Are you Jeremy? hehe
rofl


N7GTX

7,866 posts

143 months

Tuesday 3rd December 2019
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Byker28i said:
N7GTX said:
You can't just take a former miner and expect him to know all this. wink
Is that insulting the welsh, thinking they are just ex-miners? There's not really been any mining for the last 20 years.
Ebbw Vale is absolutely crammed with business parks
https://businesswales.gov.wales/enterprisezones/zo...
I'm not insulting anyone. I'm making the point that building a TVR is a specialised job. And for what its worth my brother-in-law's family live there and to see how the government wastes money - like the £9m cancelling the Circuit of Wales - is an absolute disgrace in a seriously deprived region. These people deserve better than this. And if TVR do not go ahead then the big promises of 100-150 jobs go out the window.

Edited by N7GTX on Tuesday 3rd December 19:34

anonymous-user

54 months

Tuesday 3rd December 2019
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Byker28i said:
Is that insulting the welsh, thinking they are just ex-miners? There's not really been any mining for the last 20 years.
Ebbw Vale is absolutely crammed with business parks
https://businesswales.gov.wales/enterprisezones/zo...
That only means the youngest miner is 38 years old.

If that helps

N7GTX

7,866 posts

143 months

Thursday 5th December 2019
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Not long now until 31st Dec when the accounts must be filed at Companies House for TVR Manufacturing/Automotive/Racing. As they will only be up to the 31st March '19, maybe not a lot to learn really.

Wonder if there will be a non-secret update as a nice Xmas pressie xmas

GTRene

16,549 posts

224 months

Thursday 5th December 2019
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V8 GMS said:
I really liked it - The car I drove was LHD (unfamiliar to me) and the test drive route was through zones 1 & 2 London (so not the easiest of places to get an appreciation of handling). However, an ~800kg car feels awesome - I liked many things: with the small wheels (16") you could feel the tyres working as part of the suspension to absorb the pot holes and drain covers etc.
It's obviously been designed to give a deliberate retro/emotive experience and to me it pulled off the 'classic feel' really well - for example, you have to really get to know your brake pedal!

It felt quick enough to me(!) but I'm sure you'll appreciate we couldn't really test that properly in the city. The exhaust is okay (obviously only a V6 sound track) - Due to the small size of car and with the engine being behind you reminded me like a beefed up Lotus. The test drive car had exhaust valves so you could go into subtle mode on demand which I liked.

The car is more dramatic in person than in the pictures (much like every said when they saw the Griff).

The hard top 'canopy' seemed aeroplane inspired which was a neat trick - you'd never get in over the high sills otherwise. I'm 6'4" and just fitted ok but I'd need an even lower seat (I.e. straight onto the tub) to spend a long time in there. I'd prob take the removable steering wheel as well. I thought they'd done a pretty good job with the interior - need to remember it's not a Pagani, but all the carbon work I saw looked smart.

It has small sliding windows and rear view mirror is quite close to your face, which may give a sense of claustrophobia to some but I didn't mind. There are basic creature comforts like A/C and blue tooth radio but no infotainment on the dash - just the essential toggle switches (I liked that).

In terms of the fit and finish, I didn't really scrutinise the panel gaps but I thought it all looked okay (for a hand built fibreglass car) to me. They're still developing manufacturing processes, so expect the bonnet pins to evolve before main production runs.

It certainly felt like a sense of occasion. Driving near Chelsea Barracks saw a McLaren F1 race car being unloaded from a lorry (must be some car show happening). The crew heard us coming and all stopped to watch the Jannarelly go past (so it must look pretty cool).

Final point - I love the configurabilty. Hard top, roadster, targa.. all as you wish with just a few bolts. I'm sure I'll think of more later...



Edit to add you a piccy

Edited by V8 GMS on Tuesday 3rd December 10:44
Looks good in that picture and thanks for sharing your story.

m4tti

5,427 posts

155 months

Thursday 5th December 2019
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GTRene said:
Looks good in that picture and thanks for sharing your story.
Yes seconded, after asking for more info, thanks for the input clap

Just been catching up.

jpf

1,312 posts

276 months

Tuesday 10th December 2019
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Sent TVR a note from the USA. looking to see if they would sell an engineless TVR.

1) They responded quickly
2) No they won't sell an engineless TVR
3) They are working on global distribution

To be fair, I remember Peter Wheeler saying he was looking to sell Tuscans in the USA in 2001.

The fact that they responded in a timely manner is encouraging. I hope TVR can get the production up and running in 2020--they are missed.

anonymous-user

54 months

Tuesday 10th December 2019
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jpf said:
I hope TVR can get the production up and running in 2020--they are missed.
See Vol 1 page 1 it went gradually downhill from there.

Penelope Stopit

11,209 posts

109 months

Tuesday 10th December 2019
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jpf said:
Sent TVR a note from the USA. looking to see if they would sell an engineless TVR.

1) They responded quickly
2) No they won't sell an engineless TVR
3) They are working on global distribution

To be fair, I remember Peter Wheeler saying he was looking to sell Tuscans in the USA in 2001.

The fact that they responded in a timely manner is encouraging. I hope TVR can get the production up and running in 2020--they are missed.
Wonder if they'd sell an engine?

Gazzab

21,093 posts

282 months

Tuesday 10th December 2019
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Penelope Stopit said:
jpf said:
Sent TVR a note from the USA. looking to see if they would sell an engineless TVR.

1) They responded quickly
2) No they won't sell an engineless TVR
3) They are working on global distribution

To be fair, I remember Peter Wheeler saying he was looking to sell Tuscans in the USA in 2001.

The fact that they responded in a timely manner is encouraging. I hope TVR can get the production up and running in 2020--they are missed.
Wonder if they'd sell an engine?
They have only got two engines. Maybe speak with Ford.

gavgavgav

1,556 posts

229 months

Wednesday 11th December 2019
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V8 GMS said:
m4tti said:
You’ve got to have more for us than that. Sound track, fit and finish, how quick did it feel, what did it handle like on general roads biggrin
I really liked it - The car I drove was LHD (unfamiliar to me) and the test drive route was through zones 1 & 2 London (so not the easiest of places to get an appreciation of handling). However, an ~800kg car feels awesome - I liked many things: with the small wheels (16") you could feel the tyres working as part of the suspension to absorb the pot holes and drain covers etc.
It's obviously been designed to give a deliberate retro/emotive experience and to me it pulled off the 'classic feel' really well - for example, you have to really get to know your brake pedal!

It felt quick enough to me(!) but I'm sure you'll appreciate we couldn't really test that properly in the city. The exhaust is okay (obviously only a V6 sound track) - Due to the small size of car and with the engine being behind you reminded me like a beefed up Lotus. The test drive car had exhaust valves so you could go into subtle mode on demand which I liked.

The car is more dramatic in person than in the pictures (much like every said when they saw the Griff).

The hard top 'canopy' seemed aeroplane inspired which was a neat trick - you'd never get in over the high sills otherwise. I'm 6'4" and just fitted ok but I'd need an even lower seat (I.e. straight onto the tub) to spend a long time in there. I'd prob take the removable steering wheel as well. I thought they'd done a pretty good job with the interior - need to remember it's not a Pagani, but all the carbon work I saw looked smart.

It has small sliding windows and rear view mirror is quite close to your face, which may give a sense of claustrophobia to some but I didn't mind. There are basic creature comforts like A/C and blue tooth radio but no infotainment on the dash - just the essential toggle switches (I liked that).

In terms of the fit and finish, I didn't really scrutinise the panel gaps but I thought it all looked okay (for a hand built fibreglass car) to me. They're still developing manufacturing processes, so expect the bonnet pins to evolve before main production runs.

It certainly felt like a sense of occasion. Driving near Chelsea Barracks saw a McLaren F1 race car being unloaded from a lorry (must be some car show happening). The crew heard us coming and all stopped to watch the Jannarelly go past (so it must look pretty cool).

Final point - I love the configurabilty. Hard top, roadster, targa.. all as you wish with just a few bolts. I'm sure I'll think of more later...



Edit to add you a piccy

Edited by V8 GMS on Tuesday 3rd December 10:44
Hilarious! I was a having a good look at this car when I pulled alongside as was on my motorbike at the lights you were waiting at the end of Albert bridge. I could not remember how to spell it to look up what it was until seeing this post!

crosseyedlion

2,175 posts

198 months

Saturday 14th December 2019
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Just did a little digging. All of TVRs trademarks have the security holder as the Welsh government.

Does that mean they would be holding them if the company went under/folded?

N7GTX

7,866 posts

143 months

Saturday 14th December 2019
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That will be under the terms of the government loan I guess? The loan was £2m and with interest that's now over £2.5m I believe. Has to be repaid by 2021 as TVR has said the government has said it wont be calling it in early.
Much now depends on whether Pello can raise the capital they need by Easter as I can't see the government waiting much longer for TVR to secure funding to actually produce a car.
Maybe the election result will now encourage someone to put their hand in their pocket?

Gazzab

21,093 posts

282 months

Saturday 14th December 2019
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N7GTX said:
That will be under the terms of the government loan I guess? The loan was £2m and with interest that's now over £2.5m I believe. Has to be repaid by 2021 as TVR has said the government has said it wont be calling it in early.
Much now depends on whether Pello can raise the capital they need by Easter as I can't see the government waiting much longer for TVR to secure funding to actually produce a car.
Maybe the election result will now encourage someone to put their hand in their pocket?
The election ‘feel good’ will disappear shortly as the brexit implementation / trade deals becomes painful, the Irish borders cause political and social unrest and Scotland pushes for independence.

GinG15

501 posts

171 months

Saturday 14th December 2019
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https://www.motor1.com/news/387436/factory-five-f9...


bye-bye TVR....better not open the factory....

Byker28i

59,832 posts

217 months

Saturday 14th December 2019
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GinG15 said:
https://www.motor1.com/news/387436/factory-five-f9...


bye-bye TVR....better not open the factory....
LOL and how much do you think that would be?

anonymous-user

54 months

Saturday 14th December 2019
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Gazzab said:
The election ‘feel good’ will disappear shortly as the brexit implementation / trade deals becomes painful, the Irish borders cause political and social unrest and Scotland pushes for independence.
That’s a fake doom prediction. We won’t see much change on Brexit - only what the papers want to hype up.

phazed

21,844 posts

204 months

Saturday 14th December 2019
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GinG15 said:
https://www.motor1.com/news/387436/factory-five-f9...


bye-bye TVR....better not open the factory....
That is ugly as feck!

anonymous-user

54 months

Saturday 14th December 2019
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phazed said:
That is ugly as feck!
bks it’s bloody gorgeous!!!!
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