New TVR still under wraps! (Vol. 2)
Discussion
LucyP said:
Why would LNT have been a saviour? He has a car company and that does not really build any road cars. I think his attitude to road cars has been made very clear given the direction in which he took Ginetta.
Before he bought Ginetta in 2005 , I think he was seriously considering TVR and with his participation in Le Mans with the T440s and the successful Tuscan Challenge series , i think it would have been a good match . Ginetta have sold road cars and their new "Supercar" appears to be a road car.https://www.ginetta.com/akula
I visited the Leeds factory in 2007/8 and was really impressed , especially when compared to Bristol Avenue
Edited by glow worm on Saturday 24th October 09:41
glow worm said:
Before he bought Ginetta in 2005 , I think he was seriously considering TVR and with his participation in Le Mans with the T440s and the successful Tuscan Challenge series , i think it would have been a good match . Ginetta have sold road cars and their new "Supercar" appears to be a road car.
https://www.ginetta.com/akula
I visited the Leeds factory in 2007/8 and was really impressed , especially when compared to Bristol Avenue
We have no way of knowing what would have been the outcome should he have bought TVR. All we do know is he didn’t and it disintegrated albeit it had been in a nosedive. https://www.ginetta.com/akula
I visited the Leeds factory in 2007/8 and was really impressed , especially when compared to Bristol Avenue
Edited by glow worm on Saturday 24th October 09:41
As for LT’s road cars. Have they had any orders? Have they put any customer cars on the road in the last year ? Is their Supercar still happening or are spec savers closed ?
It’s well known he prefers to build race cars. A damn sight easier too. I don’t think he makes money but that’s not the point lol, he provides a number of platforms and watching the youngsters driving his cars is a joy. The man’s got my respect and a vital cog in the development of tonnes of tin top drivers learning through his cars. They are rapid too and a proper drivers car.
It was a good move on TVR's part to give the contract to Jones Bros. With total lockdown in Wales and (apparently) border patrols checking up on 'essential travel' no excuse not to proceed.
The latest estimate of the cost of the next 17 days to Wales is put at £500m. TVR are due to pay back their loan next year. This will increase pressure to get their loans repaid on time?
The latest estimate of the cost of the next 17 days to Wales is put at £500m. TVR are due to pay back their loan next year. This will increase pressure to get their loans repaid on time?
September 2017 - A 'business' using the name TVR, unveiled a concept car and announce their 10 year model plan.
We have now been waiting for 3 years.
October 2020 - PHers still enjoy talking about the eagerly awaited new car and the empty production facility with holes in the roof.
What percentage chance would you now give, for the new Griffith production to ever begin ?
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Aston Martin, who also needed a new factory, unveiled a new model in January 2003. There was an almost 3 year wait before any customer delivers began. The difference between that and TVR though, was pots of money and technical expertise available from Ford. The Vantage went on to become the best selling model in Aston Martin's 100 year history.
DonkeyApple said:
Money, legislation, Brexit, Covid.
As for LNT, he’s delivered public proof of what he would have achieved if he’d got his hands on TVR.
We’ll get the new TVR 18 months after they get the funding for the pre-production and an assembly plant will appear half way through that.
You can imagine the sucking of teeth if/when Jones Bros get the go-ahead. The 'estimate' for the repairs will need to be revised due to Brexit and Covid and something tells me the price will not be coming down. As for LNT, he’s delivered public proof of what he would have achieved if he’d got his hands on TVR.
We’ll get the new TVR 18 months after they get the funding for the pre-production and an assembly plant will appear half way through that.
N7GTX said:
You can imagine the sucking of teeth if/when Jones Bros get the go-ahead. The 'estimate' for the repairs will need to be revised due to Brexit and Covid and something tells me the price will not be coming down.
They will never get the go ahead, because the Welsh Assembly won't authorise it until TVR sign the lease, and TVR will not sign the lease until they need a factory, which they never will.DonkeyApple said:
Money, legislation, Brexit, Covid.
As for LNT, he’s delivered public proof of what he would have achieved if he’d got his hands on TVR.
We’ll get the new TVR 18 months after they get the funding for the pre-production and an assembly plant will appear half way through that.
Money, strategy, capability, approach, communication, brexit, covid, politics...As for LNT, he’s delivered public proof of what he would have achieved if he’d got his hands on TVR.
We’ll get the new TVR 18 months after they get the funding for the pre-production and an assembly plant will appear half way through that.
Legislation is an excuse.
Gazzab said:
We have no way of knowing what would have been the outcome should he have bought TVR. All we do know is he didn’t and it disintegrated albeit it had been in a nosedive.
As for LT’s road cars. Have they had any orders? Have they put any customer cars on the road in the last year ? Is their Supercar still happening or are spec savers closed ?
Apparently this numberAs for LT’s road cars. Have they had any orders? Have they put any customer cars on the road in the last year ? Is their Supercar still happening or are spec savers closed ?
https://www.howmanyleft.co.uk/vehicle/ginetta_miss...
A lot more than TVR since 2006
Edited by glow worm on Saturday 24th October 17:36
LucyP said:
Yes. He would have moved it to Leeds, and turned it into effectively a racing car only, manufacturer.
Better than not manufacturing anything! In fact as I’m a huge fan of motorsport a brilliant idea and one way to have kept the name in the public domain.
Racing is in the blood of TVR is it not.TVR’s most successful period was when the Tuscan Challenge entertained the country every other week on TV was it not. Sales boomed.
glow worm said:
Gazzab said:
We have no way of knowing what would have been the outcome should he have bought TVR. All we do know is he didn’t and it disintegrated albeit it had been in a nosedive.
As for LT’s road cars. Have they had any orders? Have they put any customer cars on the road in the last year ? Is their Supercar still happening or are spec savers closed ?
Apparently this numberAs for LT’s road cars. Have they had any orders? Have they put any customer cars on the road in the last year ? Is their Supercar still happening or are spec savers closed ?
https://www.howmanyleft.co.uk/vehicle/ginetta_miss...
A lot more than TVR since 2006
Edited by glow worm on Saturday 24th October 17:36
glow worm said:
Am I missing something ? ... but 4 does not look like a fat zero to me , small number admittedly , and 3 more than TVR
Nice Farbio
T440
I asked how many cars they had road registered in the last 12 months. You shared no data for this period. Without evidence I assume the answer is a fat zero. Of the cars registered in say the previous 12 months, how many were customer cars v how many were for marketing and testing etc Anyway it’s all irrelevant. Ginetta are of no consequence and of no relevant comparison to TVR. Nice Farbio
T440
Edited by glow worm on Sunday 25th October 11:26
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