New TVR still under wraps! (Vol. 2)

New TVR still under wraps! (Vol. 2)

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Gazzab

18,269 posts

241 months

Saturday 24th October
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glow worm said:
Gazzab said:
We have no way of knowing what would have been the outcome should he have bought TVR. All we do know is he didn’t and it disintegrated albeit it had been in a nosedive.
As for LT’s road cars. Have they had any orders? Have they put any customer cars on the road in the last year ? Is their Supercar still happening or are spec savers closed ?
Apparently this number

https://www.howmanyleft.co.uk/vehicle/ginetta_miss...

A lot more than TVR since 2006 smile

Edited by glow worm on Saturday 24th October 17:36
So that’s a fat zero I guess ?

N7GTX

4,725 posts

102 months

Sunday 25th October
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Gazzab said:
So that’s a fat zero I guess ?
+1?

DonkeyApple

38,982 posts

128 months

Sunday 25th October
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N7GTX said:
Gazzab said:
So that’s a fat zero I guess ?
+1?
Ginetta is depressing testament to what can be achieved when you set out to build road cars with zero experience, a brand of no meaningful value in the segment, no money, no viable product but a cool factory.

glow worm

4,483 posts

186 months

Sunday 25th October
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Am I missing something ? ... but 4 does not look like a fat zero to me , small number admittedly , and 3 more than TVR smile



Nice Farbio



T440



Edited by glow worm on Sunday 25th October 11:26

Gazzab

18,269 posts

241 months

Sunday 25th October
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glow worm said:
Am I missing something ? ... but 4 does not look like a fat zero to me , small number admittedly , and 3 more than TVR smile



Nice Farbio



T440



Edited by glow worm on Sunday 25th October 11:26
I asked how many cars they had road registered in the last 12 months. You shared no data for this period. Without evidence I assume the answer is a fat zero. Of the cars registered in say the previous 12 months, how many were customer cars v how many were for marketing and testing etc Anyway it’s all irrelevant. Ginetta are of no consequence and of no relevant comparison to TVR.

glow worm

4,483 posts

186 months

Sunday 25th October
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Last year was 2019 and there are no 2020 figures available !!! I wasn't comparing ... I was responding to Baconsarneys question ...Where did it all go wrong ? and that was my opinion.

LucyP

452 posts

18 months

Sunday 25th October
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DonkeyApple said:
Ginetta is depressing testament to what can be achieved when you set out to build road cars with zero experience, a brand of no meaningful value in the segment, no money, no viable product but a cool factory.
Also called being flexible, adaptive to the changing market and finding your niche. They found a profitable market in running race series and building racing cars. Look at the profit figures and profit growth for 17,18,19.

Gazzab

18,269 posts

241 months

Sunday 25th October
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glow worm said:
Last year was 2019 and there are no 2020 figures available !!! I wasn't comparing ... I was responding to Baconsarneys question ...Where did it all go wrong ? and that was my opinion.
But 2019 started 21 months ago :-)
I am intrigued as to how many road going (customer?) cars they have registered.


glow worm

4,483 posts

186 months

Sunday 25th October
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Gazzab said:
But 2019 started 21 months ago :-)
I am intrigued as to how many road going (customer?) cars they have registered.
Tell me how many Fords,Vauxhalls, Ferraris, Lambos any car registered (other than TVR) in the last 12 months ... If YOU can't then should I ASSUME the answer is a big fat Zero ? (Your logic )


Edited by glow worm on Sunday 25th October 13:07

DonkeyApple

38,982 posts

128 months

Sunday 25th October
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LucyP said:
DonkeyApple said:
Ginetta is depressing testament to what can be achieved when you set out to build road cars with zero experience, a brand of no meaningful value in the segment, no money, no viable product but a cool factory.
Also called being flexible, adaptive to the changing market and finding your niche. They found a profitable market in running race series and building racing cars. Look at the profit figures and profit growth for 17,18,19.
That’s some positive spin. biggrin In reality, that’s all they ended up with from the initial plan. They’ve been pretty lucky to salavage that. There won’t ever be any road cars under the current structure. And we can all be thankful that Wheeler didn’t take that £1 offer very seriously.

Gazzab

18,269 posts

241 months

Sunday 25th October
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glow worm said:
Gazzab said:
But 2019 started 21 months ago :-)
I am intrigued as to how many road going (customer?) cars they have registered.
Tell me how many Fords,Vauxhalls, Ferraris, Lambos any car registered (other than TVR) in the last 12 months ... If YOU can't then should I ASSUME the answer is a big fat Zero ? (Your logic )


Edited by glow worm on Sunday 25th October 13:07
Thanks but I ask the questions :-)

V6 Pushfit

15,759 posts

69 months

Sunday 25th October
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Where did it all go wrong ?

Being sucked in to a vague promise of an ideal which soon became an adventure playground for TVR critics. We had the wagons in a circle to defend TVR only to be shot in the back by them due to an overt lack of progress.

The award for ‘Overt Marketing and PR Cock Ups In The Face Of The Enemy’ should go to TVR. Made of bits of ‘istream’ bullst melted down after their capture at the Goodwood Reveal. We lost some good men there.

baconsarney

10,126 posts

120 months

Monday 26th October
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Crop circles.

Whilst there is a lull in on-topic discussions we could talk about crop circles. Where do they come from? Who makes them? Why are they here? What is their purpose?

So many questions..................

Gazzab

18,269 posts

241 months

Monday 26th October
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baconsarney said:
Crop circles.

Whilst there is a lull in on-topic discussions we could talk about crop circles. Where do they come from? Who makes them? Why are they here? What is their purpose?

So many questions..................
No one ever asks about the giant corn rolls. The fields of Norfolk are littered with them. Surely someone would have noticed aliens landing and making them.

baconsarney

10,126 posts

120 months

Monday 26th October
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Gazzab said:
No one ever asks about the giant corn rolls. The fields of Norfolk are littered with them. Surely someone would have noticed aliens landing and making them.
See what you mean Gaz, but I've been living in Narferk for 28 years now and I have to say it can be very difficult sometimes to tell the difference between aliens and the indigenous population here biggrin

In the meantime, here's a recipe for corn rolls.... (just double the ingredients if you want giant ones)


https://cookpad.com/uk/recipes/146056-corn-rolls

Gazzab

18,269 posts

241 months

Monday 26th October
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I just moved out of Norfolk - it wasn’t the natives or the con rolls that drove me out.

Max_Torque

15,856 posts

176 months

Monday 26th October
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baconsarney said:
Crop circles.

Whilst there is a lull in on-topic discussions we could talk about crop circles. Where do they come from? Who makes them? Why are they here? What is their purpose?

So many questions..................
TVR's init.

They often crash into fields due to sudden, massive uncontrollable oversteer, and as they spin across the field they've just crashed into, with the driver maddly flayling at the wheel, they leave these characteristic "corn circles" behind........

leef44

1,582 posts

112 months

Monday 26th October
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Max_Torque said:
baconsarney said:
Crop circles.

Whilst there is a lull in on-topic discussions we could talk about crop circles. Where do they come from? Who makes them? Why are they here? What is their purpose?

So many questions..................
TVR's init.

They often crash into fields due to sudden, massive uncontrollable oversteer, and as they spin across the field they've just crashed into, with the driver maddly flayling at the wheel, they leave these characteristic "corn circles" behind........
But driver is intact, which is why TVRs do not need ABS biggrin

Jon39

7,534 posts

102 months

Tuesday 27th October
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Gazzab said:
glow worm said:
Last year was 2019 and there are no 2020 figures available !!! I wasn't comparing ... I was responding to Baconsarneys question ...Where did it all go wrong ? and that was my opinion.
But 2019 started 21 months ago :-)
I am intrigued as to how many road going (customer?) cars they have registered.

Does this answer your question?

New UK vehicle registration numbers, during each calendar quarter.
Row 11878 is Ginetta.
DVLA sometimes allocate model Missing to manufacturers development vehicles, but beyond that, it is a mystery.

Column C is 2nd quarter 2020.
Column K is 2nd quarter 2018.

DVLA do not update promptly.







Edited by Jon39 on Tuesday 27th October 09:09

N7GTX

4,725 posts

102 months

Thursday 29th October
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Planning application C/2020/0071 that TVR submitted to Blaenau Gwent Council on 6th March 2020 to much fanfare in TVRCC's news pages, is still pending today. Not sure how a possible investor would view this.
I'm losing the will here........ sleep