Tam, Chim or 450SEAC - which is tamer?

[Pacman1972]

GreenV8S said:

Not that I'm biassed or anything, but depending on your driving and styling preferences you might consider trying a V8S. That ticks the boxes for the V8 burble and a convertible roof. I think it's fair to say they offer a better ride/handling compromise than the wedge, and are a bit more chuckable than the later models. They aren't the fastest TVR money can buy as standard, but that doesn't seem to be the priority here.

Interesting idea. Certainly wouldn't rule it out

[m4tti]

Classic Chim said:

What car door has any decent side impact protection as half of it is glass! Don’t start posting pictures of Volvo’s either
It won’t help very much if it has.
Is a paper thin tin door any better in reality.
I think the truth is your pretty fked in any side impact in any car frankly.
Jesus it’s like choosing a motorbike with four wheels cos you might fall off with two.

Ayyy what you on about Alun. All modern cars have every impact zone tested. Look at the videos on youtube.

Having taken some apart The TVR side impact protection is a hollow glass fibre construction with a small integral tubular frame.. let me help you out here. There is no side impact protection.

The protection relies on luck and circumstance not engineering.

Now go look at the videos of major manufacturers, where doors are constructed of pressed steel or aluminium forms with a skin over them,,, there is no comparison.

Can we just dispel thiS myth now. It’s hopeless.

A TVR offers lots of things... any form of modern safety function is not one of them.

[nawarne]

Hmmmm.....I often recall Peter Wheeler's comment to journos in the (late) 90's when pressed about the lack of passive (and active - ABS, Stability etc ) safety aids on the then, current TVRs.

sic:" the most important safety aid on any car, is the 'nut' holding the steering wheel".

I'd add that in reading several posts on here and links to media reports following TVR crashes , the TVR occupants have got out of the car relatively unscathed. OK, a 38 tonne artic' hitting the door on (any) TVR is going to inflict serious damage - - but I think with the TVR and any modern, it would be very much down to luck on the occupant's survivability.

All IMHO. Nick

[phazed]

There have been many fatalities in TVRs, not surprisingly given their construction.

I have done scores of Trackdays in mine over the years and have always had the thought of hitting any sort of barrier/tyre wall at the forefront of my mind. I have never been on it 100% for that very reason.

Mainstream manufacturers invest millions in their construction and crash testing of cars.



Just keep that in mind when you're pressing the loud pedal in your TVR and you'll be fine....

[Classic Chim]

I think the issue is how low sportscars sit more than any other fact, vehicles are getting so tall and sitting high as the pic above shows we are at bigger risk of something driving straight over the top of us. That being a Porsche I’d estimate our Chassis would take that impact better than the car above but it makes no odds if you end up halfway underneath it. Life is dangerous, take account and carry on but choosing a sportscar based on safety grounds,, that‘s what Volvo’s are for,, all in jest, of course it’s dangerous but so is breathing in some parts of the country right now.

Edited by Classic Chim on Thursday 8th October 10:28

[phazed]

The Porsche front end is designed to crumple and the damage has stopped at the passenger cell which is reinforced. I’m sure Volvos are even better!

If ever anyone saw the crash test on the smart car into a concrete block and about 50 miles an hour on fifth gear I believe it will show just how good the safety cells are although I still wouldn’t want to be inside of one when that happens!

I digress.....

[rockits]

I wouldn't say any TVR across the board is particularly tame. It certainly isn't a daily without compromise like most of the modern daily sports cars we have these days. This is the point of a TVR surely though as a 3rd car with occasional or less occasional if preferred use. They are far from the best cars I have ever driven but this actually makes them much more appealing in comparison to other less interesting metal.

The Tuscan Speed Six I drove a few years back was pretty docile and mild mannered in most scenarios. Far less raw than my current Chimaera 500 in comparison. However it came alive when hustling along a bit more.

[m4tti]

phazed said:

The Porsche front end is designed to crumple and the damage has stopped at the passenger cell which is reinforced. I’m sure Volvos are even better!

If ever anyone saw the crash test on the smart car into a concrete block and about 50 miles an hour on fifth gear I believe it will show just how good the safety cells are although I still wouldn’t want to be inside of one when that happens!

I digress.....

Just for fun. A TVR door. This is designed purely for assembly, to block a gap.. pretty much no other function.

[KKson]

m4tti said:

phazed said:

The Porsche front end is designed to crumple and the damage has stopped at the passenger cell which is reinforced. I’m sure Volvos are even better!

If ever anyone saw the crash test on the smart car into a concrete block and about 50 miles an hour on fifth gear I believe it will show just how good the safety cells are although I still wouldn’t want to be inside of one when that happens!

I digress.....

Just for fun. A TVR door. This is designed purely for assembly, to block a gap.. pretty much no other function.

Apart from the big fk off door bars in a Wedge.... just saying. You curve lovin' boys don't get it. Getting rare as, best overun pops and bangs of any TVR. Doddle for parts and home DIY and a great but sometimes edgy fan base, oh and no less than three private Facebook groups, because the silly bds keep falling out with each other....

Edited by KKson on Thursday 8th October 21:10

[colin mee]

Lol

[phazed]

^^^^^^^^^^

[celcius]

I have to say i have read all the remarks about the 3 x tvs and they all very different
No one Has mentioned a tvr seac either a 420 or very rare 450 seac will only increase very considerably in value , most are now in the usa with collectors unfortunately.
What ever you decide theres nothing like a wedge for noise, drive and smiles

[KKson]

celcius said:

I have to say i have read all the remarks about the 3 x tvs and they all very different
No one Has mentioned a tvr seac either a 420 or very rare 450 seac will only increase very considerably in value , most are now in the usa with collectors unfortunately.
What ever you decide theres nothing like a wedge for noise, drive and smiles

[GreenV8S]

KKson said:

Doesn't their popularity mean you're paying a premium?

[Pacman1972]

celcius said:

I have to say i have read all the remarks about the 3 x tvs and they all very different
No one Has mentioned a tvr seac either a 420 or very rare 450 seac will only increase very considerably in value , most are now in the usa with collectors unfortunately.
What ever you decide theres nothing like a wedge for noise, drive and smiles

Compelling reasons for all 3.
Off to test drive a Tamora tomorrow and hopefully the other two next week. Weather permitting 😁

[KKson]

GreenV8S said:

Doesn't their popularity mean you're paying a premium?

Probably yes, but what is the price of exclusivity? What other sports car is out there for less than £30k, with that performance and rarity, with only 14 left In the World? It's all down to.personal choice, what car gives you a spine tingling thrill, and how you want to spend your cash, while you can. As my dad said when I was in my early 20s and fancied a TR6, just do it otherwise you'll regret it. Life is too short.

[TarquinMX5]

Chimaera. Sounds better than the S6, particularly if not always driving at 10/10. Plenty fast enough for Sunday road trips. Better parts availabilty than the Wedge, easier maintenance, ie rear end/brakes.

All TVRs on the list are great cars but the Chim makes the most sense. IMHO, of course.

[brownspeed]

Pacman1972 said:

Compelling reasons for all 3.
Off to test drive a Tamora tomorrow and hopefully the other two next week. Weather permitting ??

can we have a feedback report afterwards? I think we're all interested in what you think.
(there is no wrong choice)

[citizen smith]

Pacman1972 said:

Compelling reasons for all 3.
Off to test drive a Tamora tomorrow and hopefully the other two next week. Weather permitting ??

What did you think about the test drive of the Tamora.

[Pacman1972]

citizen smith said:

Pacman1972 said:

Compelling reasons for all 3.
Off to test drive a Tamora tomorrow and hopefully the other two next week. Weather permitting ??

What did you think about the test drive of the Tamora.

The drive was - as you would expect - fantastic. I settled into the car very quickly, and going from memory it felt like it handled much more confidently than I remember my previous 04 Tuscan. It felt much less twitchy. The steering was flawless and the acceleration was more than enough for me. It didn't fail to put a smile on my face. The only down side was the quality of this particular car; headlights full of condensation, the interior was looking tired, the led panel wasn't working and some other minor quibbles.

Looking forward to comparing against the others