New TVR still under wraps! (Vol. 3)

New TVR still under wraps! (Vol. 3)

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m4tti

5,427 posts

156 months

Saturday 7th May 2022
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TwinKam said:
saxon said:
N7GTX said:
1. If those figures are correct and it costs just £35k where does that leave the £100k Griffith?

2. Agree and it looks like my idea of what the new TVR should look like.

3. You've just blown TVR away!
Totally agree N7, if they can deliver something as stunning as that for even close to that price they're about to blow everybody away - TVR, Lotus, Ferrari, Porsche...

Personally I see MG and its massive Chinese backers as a coming force in the industry. People might not be taking them seriously right now but this is a company with clearly a huge amount of financial muscle, engineering and design capability. They can build them cheaper in China than anybody else can build cars in the UK, USA, Germany or Italy and the MG badge still counts for something and resonates with drivers.

As for the MG HS SUV - I totally disagree with its critics, show me any car you can buy for £32k today brand new that will offer this amount of luxury, style, space, refinement and interior quality. Sure the exterior is no better or worse than many other comparable vehicles like the Toyota Rav 4, Nissan Quashkai, Kia Sportage but it undercuts most of them by £10-£15k and has a far nicer interior...













There are design flourishes in that interior - the mood lighting, the superb jet engine air vents, the leather and chrome that wouldn't look out of place on a £150k Maserati - and you're getting them for £32k???

Edited by saxon on Saturday 7th May 08:43
I've had a few of these things in to service, and I'm sorry to burst your bubble but they are 'all fur coat and no knickers'. Yes they're cheap, bought by the wagwannabees who can't afford a Hyundai Tucson (who in turn can't afford an Epuque). Cheap, but also truly nasty. Here's a couple of pics of the underside after just 12 months....



It would appear that they have not yet discovered seam-sealer... there'd be less rust on Anthony's 9-5 laugh What are they going to look like 5, let alone 10 or 15 years time?

Also... @ just 9,000 miles..

....quality!
If Chinese cars are the future, I'll stick in the past thank you very much.

Edited by TwinKam on Saturday 7th May 12:00
And just so there’s no doubt, there is nothing on these contraptions remotely like a Range Rover. It’s like the primark of SUV’s hehe

frontfloater

351 posts

143 months

Saturday 7th May 2022
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The website "network member" page shows two dealers in Belgium, but none at all north of Hexham. What kind of message does that send to owners and potential customers north of the border? Pretty discourteous to our Scottish friends ...


m4tti

5,427 posts

156 months

Saturday 7th May 2022
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frontfloater said:
The website "network member" page shows two dealers in Belgium, but none at all north of Hexham. What kind of message does that send to owners and potential customers north of the border? Pretty discourteous to our Scottish friends ...

Just photoshop some imaginary pins on the map yourself. That’s what they’ve done.

Penrhyn

665 posts

99 months

Saturday 7th May 2022
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Hagerty inflation busting roadster’s , a TVR is near the end enjoy.
https://www.hagerty.co.uk/articles/lists/8-inflati...

saxon

420 posts

251 months

Sunday 8th May 2022
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[quote=TwinKam]

I've had a few of these things in to service, and I'm sorry to burst your bubble but they are 'all fur coat and no knickers'. Yes they're cheap, bought by the wagwannabees who can't afford a Hyundai Tucson (who in turn can't afford an Epuque). Cheap, but also truly nasty. Here's a couple of pics of the underside after just 12 months....

Shame to hear this as the design visually is good and having ridden in one I was very impressed with the smoothness and refinement. Interesting that they do so many things right that are difficult and then cock up something so simple like rust prevention!

In many ways Saab were the same - gorgeous designs, superb engineering in all respects apart from rust prevention (I know, I have had three of them).

Saxon

Monkeylegend

26,479 posts

232 months

Sunday 8th May 2022
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You can also be a premium car producer and forget to rust protect underneath, can't you Jaguar F type.

N7GTX

7,878 posts

144 months

Sunday 8th May 2022
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The mother-in-law's 3 year old Suzuki Jimny with 6,000 miles was part ex'd last month. The chassis was rusting in a lot of places. Still, she got £6k more for it than she paid brand new.

baconsarney

11,992 posts

162 months

Sunday 8th May 2022
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The flying brick is 27 this year… and rust free smile

saxon

420 posts

251 months

Monday 9th May 2022
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Those flying bricks seem to go on forever!! Someday all cars should be made that way....

I always hoped Saab may have been cut from similar cloth but with nicer styling but as I say the rust protection is average at best...

Saxon

phazed

21,844 posts

205 months

Monday 9th May 2022
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baconsarney said:
The flying brick is 27 this year… and rust free smile
Ditto my 15 year old Mercedes ML320 that I gave to my son. 165K miles, 1 wheel bearing, 1 air spring and 1 turbo hose. like a 3 year old car underneath.

TwinKam

2,998 posts

96 months

Monday 9th May 2022
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phazed said:
baconsarney said:
The flying brick is 27 this year… and rust free smile
Ditto my 15 year old Mercedes ML320 that I gave to my son. 165K miles, 1 wheel bearing, 1 air spring and 1 turbo hose. like a 3 year old car underneath.
I run a 19 year old ST220 estate... no good reason to change it yet!

Zener

18,965 posts

222 months

Monday 9th May 2022
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Rot free 191k miles 2002 (no not that 2002 laugh) BMW 2,5 E46 Touring runs as sweet as ever dont use oil (they do have a rep for) and is a pleasure to get in to take me home post Chimaera drive outs , wont be replacing it with any later BMW offerings sadly and def nothing from VAG for sure eek

glow worm

5,883 posts

228 months

Monday 9th May 2022
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Rot free 1998 BMW E36 328 Sport Coupe 160k miles one owner (me) can't afford to replace smile

Byker28i

60,285 posts

218 months

Monday 9th May 2022
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glow worm said:
Rot free 1998 BMW E36 328 Sport Coupe 160k miles one owner (me) can't afford to replace smile
TVR's do that to you biggrin
Says me with a 9 year old 140K mile Mazda 6 estate and a 100K miler 12 year old MX-5

Penrhyn

665 posts

99 months

Monday 9th May 2022
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My 2001 R129 Mercedes SL500 94k still going strong. It lives outside, no rust underneath, used most days and we live within 150 yards of the Irish Sea.

Hobo

5,768 posts

247 months

Tuesday 10th May 2022
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QBee said:
I feel completely priced out of the current EV market. I am self-employed.

I watch colleagues with company cars and an ego spending £60k+ on and EV that would have been a £40k car in petrol/diesel guise, and then watch them having range anxiety, taking several hours more to do long journeys because of enforce recharging stops (if they can find a working and available charger), and having weird electrical problems that leave the dealers stumped.

And then I think I made the right decision for me, which is to keep to my budget and run around in a 20 year old Saab estate that cost me £900.
Yes, I have the odd repair to pay for, but local garages understand these old fashioned cars.But I have no monthly PCP, no stupid insurance premiums because of the value of the car, no danger anyone will ever nick it, no jealous clients. My money, my choice.

However, I could be interested in an EV with a 500 mile range, fast charging, a 7 year warranty and new price tag well south of £40k. So the above about MG EVs does tickle my interest. A £100k TVR with a V8 was and still is well out of my range, as would be the eclectic version.
You do know this is a car website don’t you …..

QBee

21,009 posts

145 months

Tuesday 10th May 2022
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Hobo said:
You do know this is a car website don’t you …..
Yes. I guess I need to resign.

Hobo

5,768 posts

247 months

Tuesday 10th May 2022
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It’s sad to see what has come of TVR. I remember getting my T350C in 2003 from Tony at Melton Mowbray (unfortunately who died in a test drive accident).

Fantastic car. An event to drive every time, mainly for the right reasons with the wrong reasons thrown in now and again. I think it was around 50k and there was nothing like it on the road.

Fast forward 20 years and TVR is a laughing stock. Clearly the Griffith isn’t happening. It’s already out of date despite never being built and the automotive world has moved on and left TVR behind.

I hope those that had deposits down have taken them back and places deposits in something which will actually be delivered as life’s too short. I was a prospective TVR customer but not now unfortunately. Too many other options out there (for me a 992 Targa GTS arrives in the next week).

anonymous-user

55 months

Tuesday 10th May 2022
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Hobo said:
QBee said:
I feel completely priced out of the current EV market. I am self-employed.

I watch colleagues with company cars and an ego spending £60k+ on and EV that would have been a £40k car in petrol/diesel guise, and then watch them having range anxiety, taking several hours more to do long journeys because of enforce recharging stops (if they can find a working and available charger), and having weird electrical problems that leave the dealers stumped.

And then I think I made the right decision for me, which is to keep to my budget and run around in a 20 year old Saab estate that cost me £900.
Yes, I have the odd repair to pay for, but local garages understand these old fashioned cars.But I have no monthly PCP, no stupid insurance premiums because of the value of the car, no danger anyone will ever nick it, no jealous clients. My money, my choice.

However, I could be interested in an EV with a 500 mile range, fast charging, a 7 year warranty and new price tag well south of £40k. So the above about MG EVs does tickle my interest. A £100k TVR with a V8 was and still is well out of my range, as would be the eclectic version.
You do know this is a car website don’t you …..
He’s got a very rational viewpoint, can’t dispute a thing there it’s bang-on and the envy of the £100k buyers with big repayments and premiums afraid of proper driving for fear of having it nicked/scratched and a miserable ownership experience of high depreciation.
The dream of a useable dentable classic has always been a draw to me hence the 1941 jeep where running it into a brick wall merely adds to its patina.

phazed

21,844 posts

205 months

Tuesday 10th May 2022
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laugh

Bang on!