New TVR still under wraps! (Vol. 3)

New TVR still under wraps! (Vol. 3)

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Byker28i

59,814 posts

217 months

Tuesday 10th May 2022
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V6 Pushfit said:
Hobo said:
QBee said:
I feel completely priced out of the current EV market. I am self-employed.

I watch colleagues with company cars and an ego spending £60k+ on and EV that would have been a £40k car in petrol/diesel guise, and then watch them having range anxiety, taking several hours more to do long journeys because of enforce recharging stops (if they can find a working and available charger), and having weird electrical problems that leave the dealers stumped.

And then I think I made the right decision for me, which is to keep to my budget and run around in a 20 year old Saab estate that cost me £900.
Yes, I have the odd repair to pay for, but local garages understand these old fashioned cars.But I have no monthly PCP, no stupid insurance premiums because of the value of the car, no danger anyone will ever nick it, no jealous clients. My money, my choice.

However, I could be interested in an EV with a 500 mile range, fast charging, a 7 year warranty and new price tag well south of £40k. So the above about MG EVs does tickle my interest. A £100k TVR with a V8 was and still is well out of my range, as would be the eclectic version.
You do know this is a car website don’t you …..
He’s got a very rational viewpoint, can’t dispute a thing there it’s bang-on and the envy of the £100k buyers with big repayments and premiums afraid of proper driving for fear of having it nicked/scratched and a miserable ownership experience of high depreciation.
The dream of a useable dentable classic has always been a draw to me hence the 1941 jeep where running it into a brick wall merely adds to its patina.
I think thats part of why I fancy a 110 defender. Incidently speaking to Electrogenic, they use chinese batteries and motors in some of their conversions, one of which is a Cerbera currently, although thats going to be a race/sprint car with small battery capacity but fast charge to keep the weight really low.

Even then, their Land Rover conversion kit starts at £25k plus vat for farm range...

TwinKam

2,980 posts

95 months

Tuesday 10th May 2022
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Who's old enough to remember DLT and his 'London-proof car'? Complete with scaffold-pole bumpers, and fenders (in nautical, not USA, parlance), it made perfect sense then, and even more now hehe

https://www.motorpunk.co.uk/features/an-unholy-tri...

m4tti

5,427 posts

155 months

Tuesday 10th May 2022
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TwinKam said:
Who's old enough to remember DLT and his 'London-proof car'? Complete with scaffold-pole bumpers, and fenders (in nautical, not USA, parlance), it made perfect sense then, and even more now hehe

https://www.motorpunk.co.uk/features/an-unholy-tri...


Another BBC success story, similar to Saville. When you look at their pictures, they were hiding in plain sight biggrin

TwinKam

2,980 posts

95 months

Tuesday 10th May 2022
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Hardly the same! rolleyes
Anyhoo... this was about his car.

Edited by TwinKam on Tuesday 10th May 18:00

Gazzab

21,093 posts

282 months

Tuesday 10th May 2022
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m4tti said:


Another BBC success story, similar to Saville. When you look at their pictures, they were hiding in plain sight biggrin
Have you actually read what happened. Hardly similar. He does wear reactolite glasses which is a dead giveaway. It’s about his car.

m4tti

5,427 posts

155 months

Tuesday 10th May 2022
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Gazzab said:
m4tti said:


Another BBC success story, similar to Saville. When you look at their pictures, they were hiding in plain sight biggrin
Have you actually read what happened. Hardly similar. He does wear reactolite glasses which is a dead giveaway. It’s about his car.
I think you’ll find he does have a conviction for being a “pest” spin

And not the garden variety.

Gazzab

21,093 posts

282 months

Tuesday 10th May 2022
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m4tti said:
Gazzab said:
m4tti said:


Another BBC success story, similar to Saville. When you look at their pictures, they were hiding in plain sight biggrin
Have you actually read what happened. Hardly similar. He does wear reactolite glasses which is a dead giveaway. It’s about his car.
I think you’ll find he does have a conviction for being a “pest” spin

And not the garden variety.
Yep it’s not similar at all.

N7GTX

7,865 posts

143 months

Tuesday 10th May 2022
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Anyone hoping the new TVR or TVR EV would be redesigned will be disappointed. The car is to remain the same as LE says it is "an aeronautically optimised design."

He also says that the investment from Ensorcia is just "the first of a planned series of multi-million pound investments into TVR which, aside from allowing us to elect to repay early the loan originally provided by the Welsh Government, is now supporting the rebirth of our beloved V8-engined Griffith, and also the brand’s first step into the brave, new world of electrification."

"Our plans to bring TVR EV's to market are well underway, with the first of two models to be released shortly after the release of the newest Griffith and Limited-Edition Griffith EV models in 2024."

https://www.tvr-car-club.co.uk/news/tvr-factory-pr...

bad company

18,576 posts

266 months

Wednesday 11th May 2022
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N7GTX said:
Anyone hoping the new TVR or TVR EV would be redesigned will be disappointed. The car is to remain the same as LE says it is "an aeronautically optimised design."

He also says that the investment from Ensorcia is just "the first of a planned series of multi-million pound investments into TVR which, aside from allowing us to elect to repay early the loan originally provided by the Welsh Government, is now supporting the rebirth of our beloved V8-engined Griffith, and also the brand’s first step into the brave, new world of electrification."

"Our plans to bring TVR EV's to market are well underway, with the first of two models to be released shortly after the release of the newest Griffith and Limited-Edition Griffith EV models in 2024."

https://www.tvr-car-club.co.uk/news/tvr-factory-pr...
More hot air or will there be a car this time?

Hopefully it’ll happen but I’m keeping my wallet in my pocket for now.

keynsham

272 posts

271 months

Wednesday 11th May 2022
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Based on the time taken, progress so far, and history of TVR, I am guessing there will never be another new TVR car. If it was really going to happen, it would have by now. Investors and punters alike will have lost faith.

Just saying!!

QBee

20,980 posts

144 months

Wednesday 11th May 2022
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bad company said:
More hot air or will there be a car this time?

Hopefully it’ll happen but I’m keeping my wallet in my pocket for now.
There's a thought - if the new TVR could run on hot air, Downing Street will back it.
They have plenty of hot air to spare whistle

Gazzab

21,093 posts

282 months

Wednesday 11th May 2022
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keynsham said:
Based on the time taken, progress so far, and history of TVR, I am guessing there will never be another new TVR car. If it was really going to happen, it would have by now. Investors and punters alike will have lost faith.

Just saying!!
But they claim to have (some) funding and an EV plan…..so the likelihood is increasing that they will be building cars.

anonymous-user

54 months

Wednesday 11th May 2022
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Gazzab said:
But they claim to have (some) funding and an EV plan…..so the likelihood is increasing that they will be building cars.
It’s all a bit late, the impetus has gone and the lack of any publicity (whilst typical) is telling.

N7GTX

7,865 posts

143 months

Wednesday 11th May 2022
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LE has given up a controlling interest in his other company, EDG4R & Co which I think is connected with his hotel/golf club.

With all this money from Ensorcia, I can see some boardroom changes or a buy out when the EV is produced.

Tyre Smoke

23,018 posts

261 months

Wednesday 11th May 2022
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N7GTX said:
LE has given up a controlling interest in his other company, EDG4R & Co which I think is connected with his hotel/golf club.

With all this money from Ensorcia, I can see some boardroom changes or a buy out when the EV is produced.
If it ever gets going, I'd agree with this. And the V8 ICE quietly dropped in favour of an electric car. However, I'm very sceptical about the whole affair.

Hobo

5,763 posts

246 months

Wednesday 11th May 2022
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An electric TVR ???

TVR's were all about the engine, noise and associated benefits. TVR were not known for handling, build quality (albeit I never had massive issues) or aftercare, and if I were in the market for an EV sportscar then TVR certainly would not be where I'd be looking to be honest.

This is dead before its born. I would maintain I genuinely wanted things to work out, but its a shambles and its competition is now so far ahead of them that the market size makes is unviable. If it was a random guy with a sh!t load of money doing this I could still believe, but not with investors money as whilst I'm not saying they are 'that' clever, they certainly aren't 'that' stupid.

silentbrown

8,832 posts

116 months

Wednesday 11th May 2022
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N7GTX said:
The car is to remain the same as LE says it is "an aeronautically optimised design."
He actually said "aerodynamically" which makes a little more sense.

Although given the difficulties in getting this off the ground, "aeronautically" has a certain ring to it.



magpies

5,129 posts

182 months

Wednesday 11th May 2022
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silentbrown said:
He actually said "aerodynamically" which makes a little more sense.
Although given the difficulties in getting this off the ground, "aeronautically" has a certain ring to it.
biggrinthumbup

N7GTX

7,865 posts

143 months

Wednesday 11th May 2022
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silentbrown said:
N7GTX said:
The car is to remain the same as LE says it is "an aeronautically optimised design."
He actually said "aerodynamically" which makes a little more sense.

Although given the difficulties in getting this off the ground, "aeronautically" has a certain ring to it.
Well spotted. smile

It was past my bedtime when I put it up. sleep

8Speed

729 posts

66 months

Thursday 12th May 2022
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I think I've now lost all interest in a new TVR, especially any EV version despite being a lifelong fan of the marque.
On the plus side, the vegetables my wife planted are coming up nicely smile