New TVR still under wraps! (Vol. 3)
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phazed said:
Thanks Peter, I've passed it on! I've also told him he's going to be associating with driving Gods.... he said he'd do his best to keep up 
Looks like Les has had a holiday in Texas,....... 
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I can never see the point in designing a completely new car and dragging a 35 year old name along for the ride. Delorian cars are interesting but were very badly built and had a terrible reliability and build quality reputation (Worse than TVR!!). They are collectible now as a rarity and an oddball but that's about it. Why would you want to associate your new product with that?
keynsham said:
I can never see the point in designing a completely new car and dragging a 35 year old name along for the ride. Delorian cars are interesting but were very badly built and had a terrible reliability and build quality reputation (Worse than TVR!!). They are collectible now as a rarity and an oddball but that's about it. Why would you want to associate your new product with that?
Several good reasons. Ownership of the name. To benefit from 20 years of building up a business reputation with that name. Because the name has widespread recognition. Few people who might buy the new car will be aware of the failings of the original. How cool is it to be in "that movie car"? bullittmcqueen said:
Just read that starting 2023 Mercedes will stop selling cars with manual transmission. Sad.
Agree with you bullitt, I am also of the opinion that many of us here (on this thread) are living in the past... still, it's the way of things.... Oh, and it doesn't make us bad people. Maybe sad people 
baconsarney said:
bullittmcqueen said:
Just read that starting 2023 Mercedes will stop selling cars with manual transmission. Sad.
Agree with you bullitt, I am also of the opinion that many of us here (on this thread) are living in the past... still, it's the way of things.... Oh, and it doesn't make us bad people. Maybe sad people KarlMac said:
Have any of the 'good' mercedes/AMGs for the last 15 years even have a manual option? The only time I ever see a Merc manual is when shopping for sheds.
I posted it not really because i care about Mercedes in any specific way, but because it's a sign of the times when one of the biggest manufacturers in Germany ends manuals. Others will follow. I know, that's just the way it is, but it still made me think a second and it's one of the moments when you know that something you knew your entire life is walking out the door and not coming back. Pretty sure that my younger son will never drive a manual transmission car. bullittmcqueen said:
Just read that starting 2023 Mercedes will stop selling cars with manual transmission. Sad.
I was surprised to read that. Thought they had ditched manuals long ago.
A Mercedes story.
There was a time when M-B cars had foot handbrakes.
With a manual gearchange, that was tricky if parked on an incllne.
You needed one foot on the clutch, one foot on the brake and a third foot on the accelerator, before releasing the (foot) hsndbrake.
Crazy, but not allowed to say that any more. Apparently is offensive to paving.
TwinKam said:
Because with a manual, ratio selection is in the hand of the (idiot) human.... far better to have it in the control of the (infallible) computer, that way eg fuel economy can be calculated and optimised... besides it's one step nearer to driverless nirvana... 
With the M-B /Tiptronic torque-shift auto gearboxes a few years ago, you could also select gears manually, so it was then in the control of the driver. Has that changed on their latest 9 speed auto boxes, ie. no manual control at all ?
The release for the foot brake was a handle on the dash so it wasn’t really any different to any other manual.
The tiptronic around 2011 was hellishly slow - pull a paddle, then, given the delay, it must have beamed a signal to bavaria, realised it should be stuttgart, signal beamed back to vehicle and vehicle then changes gear.
Not an incentive for using the paddles at all.
The tiptronic around 2011 was hellishly slow - pull a paddle, then, given the delay, it must have beamed a signal to bavaria, realised it should be stuttgart, signal beamed back to vehicle and vehicle then changes gear.
Not an incentive for using the paddles at all.
Indeed, it was Lexus that had the woeful press-to-engage/press-to-release foot-operated parking brake, although I only encountered it on an auto tbh.
My earlier point was that systems have progressively become 'computer controlled' in the move towards full driverless; 'self-parking' is a good example, it is only possible because 'the computer' is able to operate the steering. Similarly, the transmission needs to be 'automatic' so that 'the computer' can select its own gears.
My earlier point was that systems have progressively become 'computer controlled' in the move towards full driverless; 'self-parking' is a good example, it is only possible because 'the computer' is able to operate the steering. Similarly, the transmission needs to be 'automatic' so that 'the computer' can select its own gears.
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