New TVR still under wraps! (Vol. 3)
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Gazzab said:
Am so excited about the net zero plans for TVR and their electric cars.
"Batteries, they do not make electricity – they store electricity produced elsewhere, primarily by coal, uranium, natural gas-powered plants, or diesel-fueled generators. So, to say an EV is a zero-emission vehicle is not at all valid.
Also, since forty percent of the electricity generated in the U.S. is from coal-fired plants, it follows that forty percent of the EVs on the road are coal-powered, do you see?"
A typical EV battery weighs one thousand pounds, about the size of a travel trunk. It contains twenty-five pounds of lithium, sixty pounds of nickel, 44 pounds of manganese, 30 pounds cobalt, 200 pounds of copper, and 400 pounds of aluminum, steel, and plastic. Inside are over 6,000 individual lithium-ion cells.
To manufacture each EV auto battery, you must process 25,000 pounds of brine for the lithium, 30,000 pounds of ore for the cobalt, 5,000 pounds of ore for the nickel, and 25,000 pounds of ore for copper. All told, you dig up 500,000 pounds of the earth's crust for one battery."
I have been banging on about this for ages!"Batteries, they do not make electricity – they store electricity produced elsewhere, primarily by coal, uranium, natural gas-powered plants, or diesel-fueled generators. So, to say an EV is a zero-emission vehicle is not at all valid.
Also, since forty percent of the electricity generated in the U.S. is from coal-fired plants, it follows that forty percent of the EVs on the road are coal-powered, do you see?"
A typical EV battery weighs one thousand pounds, about the size of a travel trunk. It contains twenty-five pounds of lithium, sixty pounds of nickel, 44 pounds of manganese, 30 pounds cobalt, 200 pounds of copper, and 400 pounds of aluminum, steel, and plastic. Inside are over 6,000 individual lithium-ion cells.
To manufacture each EV auto battery, you must process 25,000 pounds of brine for the lithium, 30,000 pounds of ore for the cobalt, 5,000 pounds of ore for the nickel, and 25,000 pounds of ore for copper. All told, you dig up 500,000 pounds of the earth's crust for one battery."
Why do people follow like sheep?
The sooner this EV myth is exposed for the enormous lie that it is, the better.
Solution. Build ice cars limited to 1.0L, no argument. Ban planes. Ban all the unnecessary crap that we don't need. Completely overhaul agriculture and the fishing industry. etc, etc.
Not one solution would be acceptable as people, "don't like it".
Mission failed, human race disappears sooner than later.
Might as well drive our big engined cars and smile while we can...
phazed said:
Gazzab said:
Am so excited about the net zero plans for TVR and their electric cars.
"Batteries, they do not make electricity – they store electricity produced elsewhere, primarily by coal, uranium, natural gas-powered plants, or diesel-fueled generators. So, to say an EV is a zero-emission vehicle is not at all valid.
Also, since forty percent of the electricity generated in the U.S. is from coal-fired plants, it follows that forty percent of the EVs on the road are coal-powered, do you see?"
A typical EV battery weighs one thousand pounds, about the size of a travel trunk. It contains twenty-five pounds of lithium, sixty pounds of nickel, 44 pounds of manganese, 30 pounds cobalt, 200 pounds of copper, and 400 pounds of aluminum, steel, and plastic. Inside are over 6,000 individual lithium-ion cells.
To manufacture each EV auto battery, you must process 25,000 pounds of brine for the lithium, 30,000 pounds of ore for the cobalt, 5,000 pounds of ore for the nickel, and 25,000 pounds of ore for copper. All told, you dig up 500,000 pounds of the earth's crust for one battery."
I have been banging on about this for ages!"Batteries, they do not make electricity – they store electricity produced elsewhere, primarily by coal, uranium, natural gas-powered plants, or diesel-fueled generators. So, to say an EV is a zero-emission vehicle is not at all valid.
Also, since forty percent of the electricity generated in the U.S. is from coal-fired plants, it follows that forty percent of the EVs on the road are coal-powered, do you see?"
A typical EV battery weighs one thousand pounds, about the size of a travel trunk. It contains twenty-five pounds of lithium, sixty pounds of nickel, 44 pounds of manganese, 30 pounds cobalt, 200 pounds of copper, and 400 pounds of aluminum, steel, and plastic. Inside are over 6,000 individual lithium-ion cells.
To manufacture each EV auto battery, you must process 25,000 pounds of brine for the lithium, 30,000 pounds of ore for the cobalt, 5,000 pounds of ore for the nickel, and 25,000 pounds of ore for copper. All told, you dig up 500,000 pounds of the earth's crust for one battery."
Why do people follow like sheep?
The sooner this EV myth is exposed for the enormous lie that it is, the better.
Solution. Build ice cars limited to 1.0L, no argument. Ban planes. Ban all the unnecessary crap that we don't need. Completely overhaul agriculture and the fishing industry. etc, etc.
Not one solution would be acceptable as people, "don't like it".
Mission failed, human race disappears sooner than later.
Might as well drive our big engined cars and smile while we can...
Getting all totalitarian and willy nilly banning this that and the other is not a viable solution, for I would have thought obvious reasons.
dvs_dave said:
Horrid situation. Although there’s loads of threads on PH about dealing with nightmare neighbors, anonymous revenge, playing them at their own game, out weird him etc.
Particularly memorable ones are of course hammering frozen sausages into his lawn and then watching it get destroyed by the local foraging wildlife digging them up.
Weed killer poured in a pattern of an offensive word or image on his front lawn.
Sign him up to loads of free low quality porn mail lists/magazines.
Dig a grave shaped hole in your garden that he can see, then make sure he sees you dumping an old rolled up carpet or similar in it before filling it back in and making it a veg/flower patch. If that doesn’t spook him enough, dig another hole and when you see him peeking, stare at him whilst digging/stood next to the hole etc.
The sausage one seems very popular for some reason. Particularly memorable ones are of course hammering frozen sausages into his lawn and then watching it get destroyed by the local foraging wildlife digging them up.
Weed killer poured in a pattern of an offensive word or image on his front lawn.
Sign him up to loads of free low quality porn mail lists/magazines.
Dig a grave shaped hole in your garden that he can see, then make sure he sees you dumping an old rolled up carpet or similar in it before filling it back in and making it a veg/flower patch. If that doesn’t spook him enough, dig another hole and when you see him peeking, stare at him whilst digging/stood next to the hole etc.
Anyway, on Wednesday the 'bizzies' visited him at home and handed him a Conditional Caution. Lasts for 3 months apparently and he must not speak to us, harass us or intimidate including winding down his windows and shouting 'football's coming home' and so on. If he does he will be charged with the original offence plus whatever he does and be put before a court.
His wife was unaware of his 50 minute rage as she was in a neighbour's house across the road. She admitted she can't handle him and knows that he sneaks out the house to try and 'goad' me (her words). While the 'bizzies' were in the house he kept talking over her so he was told to go out in the car for 20 minutes. Early days but so far not a peep.
Gazzab said:
Am so excited about the net zero plans for TVR and their electric cars.
"Batteries, they do not make electricity – they store electricity produced elsewhere, primarily by coal, uranium, natural gas-powered plants, or diesel-fueled generators. So, to say an EV is a zero-emission vehicle is not at all valid.
Also, since forty percent of the electricity generated in the U.S. is from coal-fired plants, it follows that forty percent of the EVs on the road are coal-powered, do you see?"
A typical EV battery weighs one thousand pounds, about the size of a travel trunk. It contains twenty-five pounds of lithium, sixty pounds of nickel, 44 pounds of manganese, 30 pounds cobalt, 200 pounds of copper, and 400 pounds of aluminum, steel, and plastic. Inside are over 6,000 individual lithium-ion cells.
To manufacture each EV auto battery, you must process 25,000 pounds of brine for the lithium, 30,000 pounds of ore for the cobalt, 5,000 pounds of ore for the nickel, and 25,000 pounds of ore for copper. All told, you dig up 500,000 pounds of the earth's crust for one battery."
I will have to translate this into English-English before I can begin to visualise the terrifying quantities involved... I'm 60 but what's a pound weight nowadays? And what's aluminum FFS? "Batteries, they do not make electricity – they store electricity produced elsewhere, primarily by coal, uranium, natural gas-powered plants, or diesel-fueled generators. So, to say an EV is a zero-emission vehicle is not at all valid.
Also, since forty percent of the electricity generated in the U.S. is from coal-fired plants, it follows that forty percent of the EVs on the road are coal-powered, do you see?"
A typical EV battery weighs one thousand pounds, about the size of a travel trunk. It contains twenty-five pounds of lithium, sixty pounds of nickel, 44 pounds of manganese, 30 pounds cobalt, 200 pounds of copper, and 400 pounds of aluminum, steel, and plastic. Inside are over 6,000 individual lithium-ion cells.
To manufacture each EV auto battery, you must process 25,000 pounds of brine for the lithium, 30,000 pounds of ore for the cobalt, 5,000 pounds of ore for the nickel, and 25,000 pounds of ore for copper. All told, you dig up 500,000 pounds of the earth's crust for one battery."
TwinKam said:
Gazzab said:
Am so excited about the net zero plans for TVR and their electric cars.
"Batteries, they do not make electricity – they store electricity produced elsewhere, primarily by coal, uranium, natural gas-powered plants, or diesel-fueled generators. So, to say an EV is a zero-emission vehicle is not at all valid.
Also, since forty percent of the electricity generated in the U.S. is from coal-fired plants, it follows that forty percent of the EVs on the road are coal-powered, do you see?"
A typical EV battery weighs one thousand pounds, about the size of a travel trunk. It contains twenty-five pounds of lithium, sixty pounds of nickel, 44 pounds of manganese, 30 pounds cobalt, 200 pounds of copper, and 400 pounds of aluminum, steel, and plastic. Inside are over 6,000 individual lithium-ion cells.
To manufacture each EV auto battery, you must process 25,000 pounds of brine for the lithium, 30,000 pounds of ore for the cobalt, 5,000 pounds of ore for the nickel, and 25,000 pounds of ore for copper. All told, you dig up 500,000 pounds of the earth's crust for one battery."
I will have to translate this into English-English before I can begin to visualise the terrifying quantities involved... I'm 60 but what's a pound weight nowadays? And what's aluminum FFS? "Batteries, they do not make electricity – they store electricity produced elsewhere, primarily by coal, uranium, natural gas-powered plants, or diesel-fueled generators. So, to say an EV is a zero-emission vehicle is not at all valid.
Also, since forty percent of the electricity generated in the U.S. is from coal-fired plants, it follows that forty percent of the EVs on the road are coal-powered, do you see?"
A typical EV battery weighs one thousand pounds, about the size of a travel trunk. It contains twenty-five pounds of lithium, sixty pounds of nickel, 44 pounds of manganese, 30 pounds cobalt, 200 pounds of copper, and 400 pounds of aluminum, steel, and plastic. Inside are over 6,000 individual lithium-ion cells.
To manufacture each EV auto battery, you must process 25,000 pounds of brine for the lithium, 30,000 pounds of ore for the cobalt, 5,000 pounds of ore for the nickel, and 25,000 pounds of ore for copper. All told, you dig up 500,000 pounds of the earth's crust for one battery."
TwinKam said:
Gazzab said:
Am so excited about the net zero plans for TVR and their electric cars.
"Batteries, they do not make electricity – they store electricity produced elsewhere, primarily by coal, uranium, natural gas-powered plants, or diesel-fueled generators. So, to say an EV is a zero-emission vehicle is not at all valid.
Also, since forty percent of the electricity generated in the U.S. is from coal-fired plants, it follows that forty percent of the EVs on the road are coal-powered, do you see?"
A typical EV battery weighs one thousand pounds, about the size of a travel trunk. It contains twenty-five pounds of lithium, sixty pounds of nickel, 44 pounds of manganese, 30 pounds cobalt, 200 pounds of copper, and 400 pounds of aluminum, steel, and plastic. Inside are over 6,000 individual lithium-ion cells.
To manufacture each EV auto battery, you must process 25,000 pounds of brine for the lithium, 30,000 pounds of ore for the cobalt, 5,000 pounds of ore for the nickel, and 25,000 pounds of ore for copper. All told, you dig up 500,000 pounds of the earth's crust for one battery."
I will have to translate this into English-English before I can begin to visualise the terrifying quantities involved... I'm 60 but what's a pound weight nowadays? And what's aluminum FFS? "Batteries, they do not make electricity – they store electricity produced elsewhere, primarily by coal, uranium, natural gas-powered plants, or diesel-fueled generators. So, to say an EV is a zero-emission vehicle is not at all valid.
Also, since forty percent of the electricity generated in the U.S. is from coal-fired plants, it follows that forty percent of the EVs on the road are coal-powered, do you see?"
A typical EV battery weighs one thousand pounds, about the size of a travel trunk. It contains twenty-five pounds of lithium, sixty pounds of nickel, 44 pounds of manganese, 30 pounds cobalt, 200 pounds of copper, and 400 pounds of aluminum, steel, and plastic. Inside are over 6,000 individual lithium-ion cells.
To manufacture each EV auto battery, you must process 25,000 pounds of brine for the lithium, 30,000 pounds of ore for the cobalt, 5,000 pounds of ore for the nickel, and 25,000 pounds of ore for copper. All told, you dig up 500,000 pounds of the earth's crust for one battery."
TwinKam said:
I will have to translate this into English-English before I can begin to visualise the terrifying quantities involved...:
Here's a nice guide to translating some of the nonsense spouted about EV's, produced by our very own Government..https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/common-...
This bit is ambitious:
"We will lay legislation later in 2022 to mandate payment roaming. This means chargepoint operators will have to work with each other to ensure that consumers can pay without having to download an app each time you use a different charging network."
Will that affect some providers such as Tesla I wonder?
The attraction for some is the exclusivity use of their network.
"We will lay legislation later in 2022 to mandate payment roaming. This means chargepoint operators will have to work with each other to ensure that consumers can pay without having to download an app each time you use a different charging network."
Will that affect some providers such as Tesla I wonder?
The attraction for some is the exclusivity use of their network.RayTVR said:
Here's a nice guide to translating some of the nonsense spouted about EV's, produced by our very own Government..
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/common-...
All interesting words...https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/common-...
Porsche are still diversified and still supporting synth fuel, as an option to reduce the carbon footprint of existing vehicles.
I’m guessing they know more than Les.
https://newsroom.porsche.com/en/2022/products/pors...
I’m guessing they know more than Les.
https://newsroom.porsche.com/en/2022/products/pors...
IMO a low carbon low CO car is one that doesn’t need crushing after 8 years because it’s too expensive to repair of has been written off after being keyed or a minor rear shunt as the rear panel is all one piece and costs £3000. So it has cheap parts available in component form with a design life of 60+ years. You buy one and it can evolve with your life and you keep it for life.
An Austin 7 is the ultimate low carbon car as they lasted from the 30’s to the 70’s.
If schools taught engineering and how to be self sufficient in repairing stuff then in adulthood people wouldn’t be reliant on someone sucking through their teeth telling them something needs complete replacement.
An Austin 7 is the ultimate low carbon car as they lasted from the 30’s to the 70’s.
If schools taught engineering and how to be self sufficient in repairing stuff then in adulthood people wouldn’t be reliant on someone sucking through their teeth telling them something needs complete replacement.
V6 Pushfit said:
IMO a low carbon low CO car is one that doesn’t need crushing after 8 years because it’s too expensive to repair of has been written off after being keyed or a minor rear shunt as the rear panel is all one piece and costs £3000. So it has cheap parts available in component form with a design life of 60+ years. You buy one and it can evolve with your life and you keep it for life.
An Austin 7 is the ultimate low carbon car as they lasted from the 30’s to the 70’s.
If schools taught engineering and how to be self sufficient in repairing stuff then in adulthood people wouldn’t be reliant on someone sucking through their teeth telling them something needs complete replacement.
Unfortunately we’re living in the microwave mentality era “bing, it’s done”… lots of influencers, people who want to live the “only way is Essex” life style, and easy access to finance. An Austin 7 is the ultimate low carbon car as they lasted from the 30’s to the 70’s.
If schools taught engineering and how to be self sufficient in repairing stuff then in adulthood people wouldn’t be reliant on someone sucking through their teeth telling them something needs complete replacement.
The interest rates go up much more and the country will implode as much of society is living off credit. That credit is under pinned by investment vehicles.. defaults will see those collapse.
It’s a disposable world.
m4tti said:
V6 Pushfit said:
IMO a low carbon low CO car is one that doesn’t need crushing after 8 years because it’s too expensive to repair of has been written off after being keyed or a minor rear shunt as the rear panel is all one piece and costs £3000. So it has cheap parts available in component form with a design life of 60+ years. You buy one and it can evolve with your life and you keep it for life.
An Austin 7 is the ultimate low carbon car as they lasted from the 30’s to the 70’s.
If schools taught engineering and how to be self sufficient in repairing stuff then in adulthood people wouldn’t be reliant on someone sucking through their teeth telling them something needs complete replacement.
Unfortunately we’re living in the microwave mentality era “bing, it’s done”… lots of influencers, people who want to live the “only way is Essex” life style, and easy access to finance. An Austin 7 is the ultimate low carbon car as they lasted from the 30’s to the 70’s.
If schools taught engineering and how to be self sufficient in repairing stuff then in adulthood people wouldn’t be reliant on someone sucking through their teeth telling them something needs complete replacement.
The interest rates go up much more and the country will implode as much of society is living off credit. That credit is under pinned by investment vehicles.. defaults will see those collapse.
It’s a disposable world.
phazed said:
Same here. It seems madness to lease a vehicle in my opinion.
Our fleet of six vehicles has a collective age of 103 years.
I’m doing my bit to keep manufacturing emissions down.
I nearly said...."between how many of you?"..... but I can't talk, with 4 cars between two of us. Our fleet of six vehicles has a collective age of 103 years.
I’m doing my bit to keep manufacturing emissions down.
Edited by phazed on Monday 8th August 11:26
And not split 50/50 either, unless you treat the tow car as hers because the caravan was her idea...?
Now which one shall I take the afternoon to go and see two clients?
I know, the only one in my fleet that is actually working.
Edited by QBee on Tuesday 9th August 09:09
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