New TVR still under wraps! (Vol. 3)

New TVR still under wraps! (Vol. 3)

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glow worm

5,851 posts

227 months

Friday 23rd June 2023
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baconsarney said:
The rear….
Did Sarnie get locked up in Colditz ? We don't seem to have heard anymore from him smile

rev-erend

21,415 posts

284 months

Friday 23rd June 2023
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waveyHello from Walliswood

Jordie Barretts sock

4,139 posts

19 months

Friday 23rd June 2023
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GTRene said:
Viper201 said:
biggrin This where we are after 10 years. 10 year wedding anniversary is meant to be aluminium or tin so given its a car seems appropriate.
what a list, respect.

its like keeping TVR alive when its 'dead' all those years, I wonder why, sure they are/were not stupid, what were they thinking you wonder.

most stories we know what they said, but what went on in their minds?
What went on in their minds? A few bottles of good claret, and the rest is egos. Their hubris took over and they catastrophically underestimated the amount of money they'd need.

glow worm

5,851 posts

227 months

Friday 23rd June 2023
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Whatever happened to these guys smile
I know Ben Lang and Trevor Cooper, I heard Dave Oxley was Taxi driving smile


Photo from the launch of the previous "New TVR"

Edited by glow worm on Friday 23 June 16:18

phazed

21,844 posts

204 months

Friday 23rd June 2023
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rev-erend said:

waveyHello from Walliswood
Another Surrey man thumbup

Car is probably a bit dusty since I last saw it...

Viper201

7,871 posts

143 months

Friday 23rd June 2023
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glow worm said:
baconsarney said:
The rear….
Did Sarnie get locked up in Colditz ? We don't seem to have heard anymore from him smile
SSShhhhhhh.............don't wake him up. sleep

baconsarney

11,992 posts

161 months

Saturday 24th June 2023
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glow worm said:
Hey Sarnie , how's the gigantic marrow competition going ? smile

I'm off and running smile



I've given up this thread and gone here

Believe it or not some people can find something to say about the "new TVR" hippy
Yo GW,
I’ve been incontinent incognito since returning from the continong… my marrows are a bit behind yours… hmm photo won’t load… I’ll try again later..

Jon39

12,830 posts

143 months

Monday 26th June 2023
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GTRene said:
what a list, respect.

its like keeping TVR alive when its 'dead' all those years, I wonder why, sure they are/were not stupid, what were they thinking you wonder.

most stories we know what they said, but what went on in their minds?

A child using the internet for 10 minutes, could discover that developing, testing, passing regulatory rules, fitting out a production facility for a new car, costs hundreds of millions of Pounds.

Les Edgar and his team of 'experienced experts' would have known that from the outset.
They just played a game and made sure they never spent serious money, or committed to contracts, because it would have never been recovered.

INEOS managed to begin production, coincidentally during the TVR 'timescale', so it was possible, but I think the up to production cost might have been £1 billion. That sum was even having the luck of finding a ready to use car manufacturing factory.

Thank you to the author, for taking the time to write details of the sorry tale.


baconsarney

11,992 posts

161 months

Monday 26th June 2023
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Nice one Iain….

Les, if you’re listening I’d like to make an offer to buy the rights to TVR from your consortium//mates/artists… I’ll need to raise a few bob but I’m sure the guys on here will help… sincerely yours, baconsarney smile

Jon39

12,830 posts

143 months

Monday 26th June 2023
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baconsarney said:
Nice one Iain….

Les, if you’re listening I’d like to make an offer to buy the rights to TVR from your consortium//mates/artists…

Are you thinking of a particular type of artist?

As for raising a 'few bob', it won't be many.
The trade mark name cannot be worth very much.
The Les Edgar 10 year plan (promises, promises, promises, all unfulfilled) has devalued the historically associated brand.

Another way to do this is not buy the trade mark, but simply register a company name.
It appears that Aston Martin Limited was not registered. The word Lagonda tends to be in all the group company names these days.
Mr Michael Wells must have spotted this last year, so he is now managing director of Aston Martin Limited, a dormant company registered at a small bungalow in Bristol. - smile






Edited by Jon39 on Monday 26th June 15:01

Viper201

7,871 posts

143 months

Wednesday 28th June 2023
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Hmmm...... seems the "experienced experts" at TVR Electric Vehicles are a bit slack. Companies House notice today.

'First Gazette notice for compulsory strike-off.'

Looks like they've failed to submit their confirmation statement due in April.

Just the sort of thing a potential investor would prefer not to see.

ant550lag

77 posts

78 months

Wednesday 28th June 2023
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Viper201 said:
Hmmm...... seems the "experienced experts" at TVR Electric Vehicles are a bit slack. Companies House notice today.

'First Gazette notice for compulsory strike-off.'

Looks like they've failed to submit their confirmation statement due in April.

Just the sort of thing a potential investor would prefer not to see.
Whats the difference between TVR Electric vehicles and TVR automotive? The latter of which looks in order on companies house. Or to put it another way, does it matter if TVR Electric vehicles is struck off?

ant550lag

77 posts

78 months

Wednesday 28th June 2023
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....I think I get it now.

TVR Electric Vehicles lists Daniel Layton as a director. He's the chairmen of Ensorcia Metals. I guess the Ensorcia partnership is off then lol

Oh well, back to the drawing board for funding then

vaud

50,529 posts

155 months

Wednesday 28th June 2023
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ant550lag said:
Oh well, back to the drawing board for funding then
I don't think they have got round to buying, leasing or installing a drawing board, but they have a well funded plan to start to think about maybe possibly definitely having one by Jan 2024.

Viper201

7,871 posts

143 months

Wednesday 28th June 2023
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ant550lag said:
....I think I get it now.

TVR Electric Vehicles lists Daniel Layton as a director. He's the chairman of Ensorcia Metals. I guess the Ensorcia partnership is off then lol

Oh well, back to the drawing board for funding then
TVR Electric Vehicles was called TVR Manufacturing before the Ensorcia partnership. Daniel Layton came on board as a director. TVR Automotive remains the parent company.

QBee

20,984 posts

144 months

Thursday 29th June 2023
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I imagine somebody just forgot to file the form.....

Jordie Barretts sock

4,139 posts

19 months

Thursday 29th June 2023
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No doubt there are plans to file it. Obviously there are. Just not saying when.

laugh

Viper201

7,871 posts

143 months

Thursday 29th June 2023
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QBee said:
I imagine somebody just forgot to file the form.....
Absolutely but TVR is run by "experienced experts". Any idea what that means? smile

Gazzab

21,093 posts

282 months

Thursday 29th June 2023
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Viper201 said:
QBee said:
I imagine somebody just forgot to file the form.....
Absolutely but TVR is run by "experienced experts". Any idea what that means? smile
It means they have met people who have expertise. They have therefore experienced experts.

QBee

20,984 posts

144 months

Friday 30th June 2023
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Gazzab said:
Viper201 said:
QBee said:
I imagine somebody just forgot to file the form.....
Absolutely but TVR is run by "experienced experts". Any idea what that means? smile
It means they have met people who have expertise. They have therefore experienced experts.
Companies House reminds the directors that the form is due.
It does not remind their external accounts, who are the people who often end up filing these forms for smaller companies.
There will be more letters to the directors and someone will action it sooner or later.