Criminal damage

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GasBlaster

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27,427 posts

280 months

Monday 9th December 2002
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Some dozy bint in an 4x4 offroader reversed into my parked Griff last night, put its tow bar through the rear bodywork underneath the numberplate and smashed a rear light cluster. Then drove off. I actually saw it happen but didn't realise she's hit my car until she'd long gone.

What kind of moronic scumbag would do that?

Anybody got any idea on cost of repairing a hole about three inches across in glassfibre and replacing the rear lights? Paintwork is all cracked around the hole where the panel must have sprung in and out too.

I am gutted. And pretty damn cross.



p7ulg

1,052 posts

284 months

Monday 9th December 2002
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I think I would be reporting it to the Police.I am afraid I can't believe it when people say they did not know they had done it.An old lady was killed around here in a hit and run last week, the local newspaper tried to say the driver might not know he had done it!

madasahatter

374 posts

268 months

Monday 9th December 2002
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People that don't "know that they have done something" shouldn't be on the road. They are obviously inept at observation and car control, which are the things keep the people outside of their (normally 4x4 box shaped) vehicle alive.

Bad luck GasBlaster. Are there any building nearby that might have surveillance equipment pointing towards the place the the incident occured? Might be worth asking them for the tape if so.

Hope you catch them (if at all possible).

Steve

Jason F

1,183 posts

285 months

Monday 9th December 2002
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And definately get the police involved. I think it is an offence to drive away from the scene of an accident if property has been damaged.

Get the CCTV footage of the area....

simpo one

85,735 posts

266 months

Monday 9th December 2002
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'Some dozy bint in an 4x4 offroader reversed into my parked Griff last night'

Ditto - some dozy bint in an 4x4 offroader reversed into a parked Cavalier this morning as I was leaving a shop (Colchester). Pushed the car about 6" and scared the hell out of the dog that was asleep in it. Luckily only a big scuff on the bumper though.

What is it about women in 4x4s?

shadowninja

76,484 posts

283 months

Monday 9th December 2002
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hmm "driving without due care and attention" ?

btw don't you know that 4x4 drivers have a right to drive wherever they want, even if you are in that spot at the time?

in a car park i never ever park next to 4x4s, mercs, audis, bmws, estates or MPVs... this results in much straighter wings.

-Darren

tripps

5,814 posts

273 months

Monday 9th December 2002
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Add to that list to avoid the the majority of cars with "Baby Onboard" stickers.

As a parent myself I know it's not easy, but if I can't get a Mother and Baby parking space (why aren't there Father and Baby spaces..), I take the time to park with nothing on the nearside of the car, so I can open the door, unload the baby and get her into the pushchair without someone's paintwork suffering.

I consider it common courtesy, but it seems that many others consider it too much effort!

Jason F

1,183 posts

285 months

Monday 9th December 2002
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simpo one said:
What is it about women in 4x4s?


Simple enough. They can't drive.

angusfaldo

2,791 posts

275 months

Monday 9th December 2002
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Jason F said:

simpo one said:
What is it about women in 4x4s?


Simple enough. They can't drive.



Nothing like good wholesome balanced comment to fuel the debate

GasBlaster

Original Poster:

27,427 posts

280 months

Tuesday 10th December 2002
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Reported it to police, will see what they can do.

Happened outside son's friend's house, the dozy arsewipe who did it is known to son's friend's parents but -according to son's friend's mum - the dozy mare says she didn't hit anything. Has anyone got any idea whether you can force someone to disclose their insurance details if they claim they didn't hit you?
I doubt there will be any marks on her towbar as evidence!

simpo one

85,735 posts

266 months

Tuesday 10th December 2002
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'but if I can't get a Mother and Baby parking space (why aren't there Father and Baby spaces..)'

And the Guardian doesn't have a 'Men's Page'. And you can have advertising hoardings with six naked men on them, but try half a bra strap and some screwed up PC Labour MP (female) howls the house down.

Whatever happened to equality, chaps?

As Jasper Carrot commented, for 'Baby on Board' read 'We've done it, nyaah'. And is it OK to follow a car more closely if it *doesn't* have children on board? I'm not even going to mention those odious 'Keep your distance' stickers - you know, the ones where you have to get up to about 3 feet away to read what it says....

shadowninja

76,484 posts

283 months

Wednesday 11th December 2002
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GasBlaster said: Reported it to police, will see what they can do.

Happened outside son's friend's house, the dozy arsewipe who did it is known to son's friend's parents but -according to son's friend's mum - the dozy mare says she didn't hit anything. Has anyone got any idea whether you can force someone to disclose their insurance details if they claim they didn't hit you?
I doubt there will be any marks on her towbar as evidence!




hmm i'd have thought you'd be what they call a "witness". Otherwise you could put a brick through her windscreen while she's standing there and claim you weren't there then

pay a kid to tag her car i reckon.

Spunagain

755 posts

259 months

Wednesday 11th December 2002
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Track her down and check the tow bar for paint and fibeglass, and confront her with it.

nubbin

6,809 posts

279 months

Wednesday 11th December 2002
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I reckon you should do the following: -

get her name and address, go round there with a camera, and take photos of her towbar - no-one repairs a towbar, and there may well be glass fibres and your paint on her bar and/or bumper. Also measure the height of the bar from the ground, and the centre of the hole in your car - take lots of photos of the damage. Report her name to the Police, and speak to your insurance company, giving her details, and say you want to claim on her insurance. That will flush her out, and may just get an admission of responsibility. Don't let the stupid bitch get away with it - she's obviously a liability on the roads, like most 4x4 drivers.

Jason F

1,183 posts

285 months

Wednesday 11th December 2002
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angusfaldo said:
Nothing like good wholesome balanced comment to fuel the debate



Quite right too. Kindly take a trip to any school in the country at school run mum time and come back and tell me they can drive. I have nearly been killed more than once by these 4*4 driving women. In fact in one week I witnessed 3 crashes in four days that I went. I also witnessed some superb parking, incl across the gates of the school. And why oh why do they need to have Bullbars on to pick up little Timmy?

shadowninja

76,484 posts

283 months

Wednesday 11th December 2002
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And why oh why do they need to have Bullbars on to pick up little Timmy?




to ram timmy's friends out of the way, obviously. if timmy's friends are all in hospital then timmy will be at the top of the class! (must remember that tip for when I start breeding)

icamm

2,153 posts

261 months

Wednesday 11th December 2002
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If you got a good enough look to recognise her/her car again then you are definately a witness. That is enough to goto the Police with if you can get her other details. If you can get proof that her car has been in an accident with a fibreglass car (preferably with a colour match as well) then you have a good case. Police will normally investigate cases of driving away from the scene of an accident so it's definately worth a try.

You could even say you "saw the car in town" and recognised it/her. That also means her friend doesn't get it in the neck for grassing.

Edited to say: Another thought is if you can get her to admit being there at the time (and parked in front of you) or find out who she was visiting and get them to confirm it. That might help.

Also look under the car for signs of paint etc. She must have gone over the top of the Griff and I bet they haven't cleaned under the bumper/tow ball.

>> Edited by icamm on Wednesday 11th December 18:40

shadowninja

76,484 posts

283 months

Wednesday 11th December 2002
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cant you just find out her reg plate and then say you took it down at the time she rammed your car?

Mark Adams

356 posts

261 months

Wednesday 11th December 2002
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I've been through this one myself. Mr Sierra (4.8 V8 290BHP 6-speed, so respect is due!) was parked outside my house minding his own business whilst I was out.

A living brain-doner backs straight into the side of my car in front of two witnesses, then drives off as if nothing had happened.

I get home to find the side of my car stoved in, having wrecked both both doors. The car had been hit so hard that the tops of the doors were nearly 40mm away from the roof!!!! Any harder and the 'B' post would have bent and written off the car.

All information including witness addresses passed to the Police. After some weeks, I get an update from the Police. They have found the car and driver. This task was made more difficult by the fact that she had moved house over a year previously, and not registered the car to her new address.

Unsurprisingly however, there is no evidence of any damage to her car, and she denies that it has been in an accident. One of the gutless maggot witnesses decides he doesn't want to get involved, so the Police are unable to do anything without two independant witnesses. They did everything they could.

All this time I have had to drive around in my smashed-up car (with a howling Arctic blizzard blowing around inside) in case it is required as evidence.

Any way, this concludes the matter. So all I had to do was pick up the £800 bill for two new doors and paintjob.

One of my mates did offer to park an Antar (tank recovery truck to you and me) on top of her car, since I knew where she lived (just around the corner, phone number in the book). I declined the offer because I think you get back what you give out (only more so).

So the gutless maggot has some fun in store then....

EdT

5,105 posts

285 months

Wednesday 11th December 2002
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Mark Adams said:So the gutless maggot has some fun in store then....

..oh yes...???

Regards
Ed