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When I bought into the TVR experience the nice salesman assured me that total cost of ownership was in fact low because of the excellent residuals for TVR's. They could also arrange very attractive finance because of said excellent residuals.
Yeah, right. The reality is over the 5 years I've had mine, I have on 3 occasions tries to sell. Forunately on 3 occasions I have found other means to get the Inland Revenue off my back, as I had NO success whatsoever in trying to sell the car.
Realistic prices? First time I wanted 21k for a 12 month old car. No takers. OK, it has 18,000 miles, but 21k for a car which cost 37k 12 months previous? No luck at 3 and 4 years old either; not using the car so much (paying tax bills!) so only 21/22k miles, selling at 19k and 18k respectively. No interest. It even sat on the dealers forecourt for 6 months with not so much as a sniff.
I was stitched up basically, and I'm sure many others fell for similar sales pitches. TVR's do not have the cast iron residuals dealers were claiming, and they can be a pig to shift - like any niche market, there will either be a buyer or there won't, and it seems more often than not there isn't.
Is it the running costs, the insurance or the reliability issues that seem to put most people off second hand TVR's?
Whatever; mine is all bought and paid for now. Barring complete financial ruin, I won't be selling (I'm not in the habit of giving money away), so I don't really care any more.
Phil
Yeah, right. The reality is over the 5 years I've had mine, I have on 3 occasions tries to sell. Forunately on 3 occasions I have found other means to get the Inland Revenue off my back, as I had NO success whatsoever in trying to sell the car.
Realistic prices? First time I wanted 21k for a 12 month old car. No takers. OK, it has 18,000 miles, but 21k for a car which cost 37k 12 months previous? No luck at 3 and 4 years old either; not using the car so much (paying tax bills!) so only 21/22k miles, selling at 19k and 18k respectively. No interest. It even sat on the dealers forecourt for 6 months with not so much as a sniff.
I was stitched up basically, and I'm sure many others fell for similar sales pitches. TVR's do not have the cast iron residuals dealers were claiming, and they can be a pig to shift - like any niche market, there will either be a buyer or there won't, and it seems more often than not there isn't.
Is it the running costs, the insurance or the reliability issues that seem to put most people off second hand TVR's?
Whatever; mine is all bought and paid for now. Barring complete financial ruin, I won't be selling (I'm not in the habit of giving money away), so I don't really care any more.
Phil
Apache....got the dyno's at home but from memory....228 bhp ..it started at 194 !!!!! And it was much smoother and more responsive..(especially after he adjusted the throttle)...basically what I thought was a fast car became much better....and it ran far far far better fuel consumption
Selling cars is always a nightmare. Maybe someone can comment from the sucessful independents? People like Adrian Blyth and David Gerald seem to be shifting a fair number of cars at the moment without too many problems.
So they are going somewhere, but why? Would be worth finding out what their secret is. Maybe share that with the private sellers who wish to off-load their cars...
Any comments from anyone?
Cheers,
Paul
So they are going somewhere, but why? Would be worth finding out what their secret is. Maybe share that with the private sellers who wish to off-load their cars...
Any comments from anyone?
Cheers,
Paul
When i see the price for second hand sorry "pre-owned" Griff`s it makes me sick , before i brought my Jag i looked around for a second hand Sorry
"pre-owned" Griff , TVR Diplomatic and Overseas sales specialise in LHD "they used to have a link on the TVR home page" , any way tried them and was quoted around £33,000 for a 5 year old Griff 500 in LHD with 35,000 miles up , how much would it cost and where could i get one converted to LHD as Griffs and Chimps seem to be almost given away back in Blighty .
"pre-owned" Griff , TVR Diplomatic and Overseas sales specialise in LHD "they used to have a link on the TVR home page" , any way tried them and was quoted around £33,000 for a 5 year old Griff 500 in LHD with 35,000 miles up , how much would it cost and where could i get one converted to LHD as Griffs and Chimps seem to be almost given away back in Blighty .
Bought a car from Adrian Blyth a couple of weeks ago... so why him rather than going private? Well, Adrian sell cars with his own a personal 3 month warrantee, i.e. this is not managed by some external company. Considering the size of his business, you need to be reasonably confident to do so - specially with TVRs. By the time this warrantee expires, I will have covered some 3000 miles... More than enough to find out about any major default. Also, all his cars are always in pristine conditions -honest you'd have to see it to believe it. This is largely achieve through professional valeting and top quality respray. As far as the engine is concerned I had a couple of test drives which went fine. Personally, I would not buy a TVR from some random guy on Autotrader. However, I would definitely be ready to buy one from someone I 'know', e.g. through Pistonheads or the TVRCC.
So, buying from dealer, or a specialist in that instance, brings some piece of mind - albeit illusionary! This is important when like me, you have no facility nor abibility to do any work on the car - appart from checking the oil that is. If I were good enough to gauge things like cambelts, brakes, wishbones, etc, and had more time in my hands, I would have definitely bought private.
All this IMHO naturally...
Good luck anyway... I know I will be there someday.
Cheers
Roms
Antigua Blue Chimaera 450
MCC Smart Passion Grey with Bungee Red interior ;o)
So, buying from dealer, or a specialist in that instance, brings some piece of mind - albeit illusionary! This is important when like me, you have no facility nor abibility to do any work on the car - appart from checking the oil that is. If I were good enough to gauge things like cambelts, brakes, wishbones, etc, and had more time in my hands, I would have definitely bought private.
All this IMHO naturally...
Good luck anyway... I know I will be there someday.
Cheers
Roms
Antigua Blue Chimaera 450
MCC Smart Passion Grey with Bungee Red interior ;o)
Hi All
Is this not the same with any car? We got a good deal (I think) on our car through David Gerald in Inkberrow, we had been looking for a Cerb originally but alas we didn't want to stretch to that kind of commitment financially so got a 4.0 Chim. Prices seemed to vary from 11k -22k (age dependant obviously).
However, when I looked at getting my everyday car it was a buyers market and certainly when we got the estate it was also (admittedly both P's).
I think another contributing factor may be that they are such specialist cars that even people that will occasionally tinker only want to do just that. With all this talk of engine re-builds it can seem daunting. We got one 'cos we wanted it for so long and if it worth nothing at the end then we will still have a good experience, one I am not sure money can buy anywhere else with a book value at the end of said pleasure.
Anyway, I am new to all this so what could I possibly know.
Any ideas about this getting in and out thing? Ladies and Ms Mammory? Legs together and swivel does not work (no comments please). My head always seems to come out first and I end up practically rolling out onto the ground and getting up from there!
Cheery-bye all. How do I learn how to use these smilies.... Is this like SMS? Limited no of characters? I just had to shorten it - or do I babble?
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Smudge
Is this not the same with any car? We got a good deal (I think) on our car through David Gerald in Inkberrow, we had been looking for a Cerb originally but alas we didn't want to stretch to that kind of commitment financially so got a 4.0 Chim. Prices seemed to vary from 11k -22k (age dependant obviously).
However, when I looked at getting my everyday car it was a buyers market and certainly when we got the estate it was also (admittedly both P's).
I think another contributing factor may be that they are such specialist cars that even people that will occasionally tinker only want to do just that. With all this talk of engine re-builds it can seem daunting. We got one 'cos we wanted it for so long and if it worth nothing at the end then we will still have a good experience, one I am not sure money can buy anywhere else with a book value at the end of said pleasure.
Anyway, I am new to all this so what could I possibly know.
Any ideas about this getting in and out thing? Ladies and Ms Mammory? Legs together and swivel does not work (no comments please). My head always seems to come out first and I end up practically rolling out onto the ground and getting up from there!
Cheery-bye all. How do I learn how to use these smilies.... Is this like SMS? Limited no of characters? I just had to shorten it - or do I babble?
bla bla blah
Smudge
Smudge,
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My fiancee is 6' and has much the same fun as you. Legs not strong enough to lift her out gracefully (?)
She pops one leg out, grabs the side of the windscreen (I hate this) and sort of pulls herself up. Girls, eh
Give it a go.
Or buy some kind of trolley to pull up to the door.
Edited by NoisyGriff on Friday 14th December 22:18
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. My fiancee is 6' and has much the same fun as you. Legs not strong enough to lift her out gracefully (?)
She pops one leg out, grabs the side of the windscreen (I hate this) and sort of pulls herself up. Girls, eh
Give it a go.
Or buy some kind of trolley to pull up to the door.
Edited by NoisyGriff on Friday 14th December 22:18
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Any ideas about this getting in and out thing? Ladies and Ms Mammory? Legs together and swivel does not work (no comments please). My head always seems to come out first and I end up practically rolling out onto the ground and getting up from there!
Try this... pop door open, pop your right leg out on the deck. Stick right arm flat on the top part of the rear wing by the hood, head out, then use leg and arm to lever yourself out. Remember to do something with your left leg at some point in the proceedings.
Yes, your arm gets wet sometimes, but hey. Graceful and damp, versus...
why does a vision of Sharon Stone keep intruding on my thoughts....smudge, I think you did well to steer clear of the Cerby as it is one expensive mutha to keep fettled. Owning the beast outright is the only way to peace of mind, I was thinking of trading my Griff in for a Tamora but did'nt want the thing badly enough to get rid of the Griff or get into debt again
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I was thinking of trading my Griff in for a Tamora but did'nt want the thing badly enough to get rid of the Griff or get into debt again
Youre just a tight scots git apache!!
Seriously though. I went to a very close friends funeral yesterday with exactly those values. She waited all her life to travel the world and when she finally retired early at 56 she got cancer and died. She never got to see the world. That's not going to happen to me. I couldn't afford my Cerbera, Griffith or the Tamora I have just ordered without borrowing a bit. Bollocks to common sense,Life is too short.
If you are happy with the Griff though mate, you should keep it.
Incidently, I sold my Griff privately for £12K. I think if you are really realistic you can sell your TVR privately. If you (fraser) had advertised the Griff for £10995 you would have sold it in a day. Better than letting a dealer financially rape you.
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you are right Flasher , do what you want when you want and sort it out after,,,, you just never know whats coming round the next bend,,,,, but on my previous point LHD Griffs , where do you find one ???
I have seen a few around over the years. And all of them have been nice and cheap. My advice is to advertise for one. Have you tried doing that yet?
If your selling or buying anything, check out www.ebay.co.uk
It's an auction site that sells new and used products. Just got an amazing deal on a new 1.4G PC at £300.
Anyway I checked out the car section and noticed a Chim for sale. Ben, it must be worth a try, you can set a reserve. Being an auction people tend to go a little further in fear of losing out.
It's an auction site that sells new and used products. Just got an amazing deal on a new 1.4G PC at £300.
Anyway I checked out the car section and noticed a Chim for sale. Ben, it must be worth a try, you can set a reserve. Being an auction people tend to go a little further in fear of losing out.
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