Tuscan or Tamora?

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Beasty

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240 posts

284 months

Tuesday 18th December 2001
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Having owned an Elise for the last couple of years, it is time for a change.

Given that I want an English sports car and I don't want another Elise, it looks like it has to be a TVR or a Noble. The Noble is out because I don't want to wait for a year and a half to get it and also because I want a roadster.

So - and here is the big question - do I go for a very recent used Tuscan for around 33k or get on the waiting list for new Tamora and take the initial depreciation hit?

It strikes me from a reliability point of view that a newish Tuscan will be more sorted than the Tamora. However the Tamora is probably the better drivers car.

I have used my Elise a fair bit on the track and would continue to do so with any replacement. I am particularily interested in any experience Tuscan owners have had on the track - are they actually fun or is it too scary to use the power?

Any comments, rants, thoughts would be much appreciated.

Thanks

Matt

PetrolTed

34,428 posts

304 months

Tuesday 18th December 2001
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You should obviously go and drive both. I suspect that the Tamora will appeal more after coming from an Elise. In terms of handling the Tamora seemed more rewarding than a standard Tuscan to me. A Tuscan S would be a different proposition though as people are raving about the handling of those too.

pbrettle

3,280 posts

284 months

Tuesday 18th December 2001
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Both are rare sights on the road today - but if you were to go for a Tamora then you will be pretty unique for around 6 - 12 months while deliveries start....

That might be worth something..

Cheers,

Paul

thom

2,745 posts

274 months

Tuesday 18th December 2001
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It strikes me from a reliability point of view that a newish Tuscan will be more sorted than the Tamora.
Matt

In my humble opinion, that might not be true because the 3.6 speed six seems to be more reliable than the 4.0

PetrolTed

34,428 posts

304 months

Tuesday 18th December 2001
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What on earth have you based that opinion on?! On second thoughts don't go there or we'll be into 'that' debate again...

plotloss

67,280 posts

271 months

Tuesday 18th December 2001
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They're both lovely looking, they both sound marvellous and they both snap knicker elastic at 50 paces.

Drive them both, see what you think and I guarantee money will be prised from your wallet.

As there seems to be some negative speculation how about some positive:

They are reliable, waterproof, fun, great handling, equal but different to Porsches and on the whole great cars



Matt.

Edited by plotloss on Tuesday 18th December 12:02

thom

2,745 posts

274 months

Tuesday 18th December 2001
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What on earth have you based that opinion on?! On second thoughts don't go there or we'll be into 'that' debate again...


Which debate?????

apache

39,731 posts

285 months

Tuesday 18th December 2001
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personally I prefer the Tuscon looks, the fact the roof folds down on the Tamora and it's interior is better just edges it ahead of the Tuscan....that and the fact it is an amazing handling car which you would prefer coming from an Elise

marki

15,763 posts

271 months

Tuesday 18th December 2001
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you know Which debate ,,,,, Teds fovourite debate ,,, oh no now we will have to have another happy hour

Beasty

Original Poster:

240 posts

284 months

Tuesday 18th December 2001
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I have to say that this question was somewhat prompted by my having to drop my Elise off at HR Owen's service depot. Always worth a visit as they usually have a pretty sexy collection of kit stored there.

There were a number of Tuscans there, parked next to the likes of Ferrari 360s and 550s and I have to say that the Tuscans were by some margin the best looking car - especially a rather splendid looking black one.

I very nearly got my cheque book out then .

Matt

plotloss

67,280 posts

271 months

Tuesday 18th December 2001
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I imagine you had something akin to the devil and angel scene in Animal House going on in your head at about that time.

I was looking for a sporty motor circa £20K, after spending less than an hour in a TVR dealer they managed to convince me to part with almost double that for a new Chim.

Havent looked back since mind you!

Matt.

Mark_Blackmore

55 posts

270 months

Tuesday 18th December 2001
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Tuscan - Okay, so I freely admit that I'm biased, having had one for the past 7 months.

At the end of the day you should choose the one that gives you the most goose-bumps.

As far as I can tell, logic and reason only amount to a minority percentage of the decision to buy a TVR. If I'd have spread-sheeted it then I'd probably have something German parked outside now.

I'll probably get slated for this, but when I see the Tamora my instant reaction is Lotus Elise - I know they're different categories, but their size, balance and attitude are very similar.

To me the Tuscan is a step up, like a Cerbera is a step up from a Tuscan.

Mine's a standard 4.0 Tuscan and I find the performance quite adequate(!) and the handling is just down to common sense - sure if you put your foot down hard on a wet roundabout you do a fine impression of Torville and Dean.

In the immortal words of Graham from Blind Date...The choice is yours!

flasher

9,238 posts

285 months

Tuesday 18th December 2001
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You should obviously go and drive both. I suspect that the Tamora will appeal more after coming from an Elise. In terms of handling the Tamora seemed more rewarding than a standard Tuscan to me. A Tuscan S would be a different proposition though as people are raving about the handling of those too.



I have it from a very reliable source that the Tuscan S is using the chassis set-up from the Tamora, so that might explain the handling being improved.

I may have ordered a Tamora but if you are open to choice then pick the one you enjoy driving best.

thom

2,745 posts

274 months

Tuesday 18th December 2001
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To me the Tuscan is a step up


I completely agree with this but it sounds like the Tamora is a better drive than the Tuscan which is not 'logical' : the 'higher' you get into the range, the 'better' the cars should handle.

JSG

2,238 posts

284 months

Tuesday 18th December 2001
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sounds like the Tamora is a better drive than the Tuscan which is not 'logical' : the 'higher' you get into the range, the 'better' the cars should handle.



Ok, but you could say that if you use the example of a MX5 and a fully loaded 626, then why does the MX5 handle better?

I would suggest that the reason it appears the Tamora is better (I don't know as I haven't driven one) is that the design and chassis setup has benefited from the extra development and lessons learnt from earlier models.

There's no law that says the smaller model can't handle better.

thom

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274 months

Tuesday 18th December 2001
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Ok, but you could say that if you use the example of a MX5 and a fully loaded 626, then why does the MX5 handle better?


Because one is a sports car (seems to be...) and the other one is not

thom

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274 months

Tuesday 18th December 2001
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There's no law that says the smaller model can't handle better.


So what is the point in bigger models then????

Edited by thom on Tuesday 18th December 17:27

nubbin

6,809 posts

279 months

Tuesday 18th December 2001
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Whichever you choose, you'll be getting a fantastic driver's car. The Tamora is a true convertible, which you may like, but the Tuscan is the most outrageous car on the planet!! Go and drive them, then decide!! Welcome to the madhouse

apeebles

267 posts

285 months

Tuesday 18th December 2001
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Nubbin is correct.... We are all very lucky in having such great decisions to make BTW I used to own a Chimaera and am now driving the Tuscan S. I can't really comment too much on the handling as I haven't had chance to push the car yet. However when the roof and glass comes of you get an awful lot of sunshine coming in! (When the sun shines of course!!!) Plus the added "Safety" features of the roll protection!.

sixspeed

2,060 posts

273 months

Wednesday 19th December 2001
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Ok, but you could say that if you use the example of a MX5 and a fully loaded 626, then why does the MX5 handle better?


Because one is a sports car (seems to be...) and the other one is not



Wasn't the Tuscan supposed to be a "GT" car, and the Tamora a "roadster". I'm sure I heard it referred to as such in the past. They're not exactly the same thing, so maybe they're not actually in competition with each other?

Take (if you must! ), the Ferrari 355 and the Ferrari 456?

Which is the "step-up" there...?


-andy-