The Murtaya - TVR Alternative?
Discussion
I find the Murtaya rather ugly to be honest, having seen the frontal view.
Far too upright and brick-like. Similar to those other bricks with big gaping black gobs...as is the latest trend....Audis.
Soon all cars will look like tranny vans, and probably weigh as much too.
Someone put a stop to it !
Far too upright and brick-like. Similar to those other bricks with big gaping black gobs...as is the latest trend....Audis.
Soon all cars will look like tranny vans, and probably weigh as much too.
Someone put a stop to it !
grahamw48 said:
I find the Murtaya rather ugly to be honest...
I agree in my opinion it lacks any of the subtlety or beauty of Wheeler and Ravenscroft's classic TVRs; the Griffith, Chimaera and Cerbera. It may be fast but visually it cannot be mentioned in the same breath as these design classics. I have seen these in the flesh at knockhill motor fair a few weeks ago and i thought they looked ok in photo's ect but now i have been up close i have changed my mind i dont think much of its looks now It does not have the presence of TVR’S and it looks to kit car at least TVR hide it a bit more not for me but i bet it is real fun to drive.
scotty_d said:
it looks to kit car at least TVR hide it a bit
Maybe that's because since the late 60's TVRs have not been kit cars? 
Always amuses and irritates me this - when talking about Morgans people go all gooey eyed and say how wonderful it is to see English craftsmanship making hand built cars, yet with TVRs, because they used GRP instead of wood they call them kit cars. Odd...
Agree.
Lotus Sevens started life as 'kit cars' too, but you need at least 15 grand to buy a decent one now, and look what a plethora of look-a-likes they gave rise to.
I'll be interested to see what McClaren come up with, now they're talking of going into serious production....probably out of my price range though.
Lotus Sevens started life as 'kit cars' too, but you need at least 15 grand to buy a decent one now, and look what a plethora of look-a-likes they gave rise to.
I'll be interested to see what McClaren come up with, now they're talking of going into serious production....probably out of my price range though.
grahamw48 said:
Agree.
Lotus Sevens started life as 'kit cars' too, but you need at least 15 grand to buy a decent one now, and look what a plethora of look-a-likes they gave rise to.
I'll be interested to see what McClaren come up with, now they're talking of going into serious production....probably out of my price range though.
Europas and Elans, ( original ones, ) could also be purchased in component form.Lotus Sevens started life as 'kit cars' too, but you need at least 15 grand to buy a decent one now, and look what a plethora of look-a-likes they gave rise to.
I'll be interested to see what McClaren come up with, now they're talking of going into serious production....probably out of my price range though.
Yes, and it was only to avoid 'purchase tax' anyway, from what I remember.
If the modern day equivalent of Colin Chapman...say, Ross Brawn was to come up with a component form road-racer there wouldn't be too many sneery 'kit-car' comments.
If the modern day equivalent of Colin Chapman...say, Ross Brawn was to come up with a component form road-racer there wouldn't be too many sneery 'kit-car' comments.
Edited by grahamw48 on Saturday 6th June 11:23
Pooh said:
JonRB said:
Was the Murtaya originally the Delfino Feroce ("ferocious dolphin", FFS) or was that another roadster based on Impreza running gear?
It was originally called the Minari and was based on the Alfa boxer engined 33 or Sud.Or at least that's how I've gathered the history over the last few years...
Mike
As a thought (cos I dont' actually know!) for those with TVR's is there any kind of modification that gets done or do most of you stick with std?
Having had a nose inside a T350 I would probably keep it as standard - did love the inside I have to say! But what does everyone else do?
I was just thinking that the Scoobs seem to be modified here there and everywhere by the owners and many of those mods in terms of brakes, engine etc coud also be done to the Murtaya.
Having had a nose inside a T350 I would probably keep it as standard - did love the inside I have to say! But what does everyone else do?
I was just thinking that the Scoobs seem to be modified here there and everywhere by the owners and many of those mods in terms of brakes, engine etc coud also be done to the Murtaya.
RichB said:
scotty_d said:
it looks to kit car at least TVR hide it a bit
Maybe that's because since the late 60's TVRs have not been kit cars? The last kit TVR was made in 1972. I know because I grew up being driven around in it.
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I don't understand the objection to kits anyway. You don't hear people going: Caterham Superlights? Nah, they're crap... kits you see. In fact there's a slight irony to any TVR owner sniping at the kit industry (not saying you were, but it happens) and that lies in the fact that kit cars are always bundled in with two other types of car in people's narrow minded stereotypes. The first is Italian cars. The second is TVRs.
If all kits are tacky as per the stereotype then it fits that all TVRs break down periodically and spend the rest of the time being driven in a point and squirt fashion by overweight middle aged accountants wearing too much Brute. I don't see why you'd subscribe to one myth and not the other.
Chris71 said:
RichB said:
scotty_d said:
it looks to kit car at least TVR hide it a bit
Maybe that's because since the late 60's TVRs have not been kit cars? 
RichB said:
scotty_d said:
it looks to kit car at least TVR hide it a bit
Maybe that's because since the late 60's TVRs have not been kit cars? Always amuses and irritates me this - when talking about Morgans people go all gooey eyed and say how wonderful it is to see English craftsmanship making hand built cars, yet with TVRs, because they used GRP instead of wood they call them kit cars. Odd...
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