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piers1

546 posts

131 months

Wednesday 23rd December 2009
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Jeez! Glad to are ok, hope the wound repairs quickly. That rollcage is interesting to say the least..

sportie

561 posts

188 months

Wednesday 23rd December 2009
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I am glad that you were able to walk away to post on here.

My Sagaris rear end broke away whilst exiting a roundabout two weeks ago. It happened very quickly without warning and whilst I was driving it cautiously due to the damp conditions. After leaving the dual carriageway I hit several small trees before hitting one head-on which stopped me dead.I walked away unhurt

It suffered extensive front end damage, radiator, wings oil cooler etc and bent the chassis beyond repair........

However I was lucky as chassis's are available and repairs at £15k have been approved so mine will be back on the road sometime late Jan/Feb.

Take care out there, as these conditions and TVR's don't mix.....................

BJWoods

4,801 posts

221 months

Wednesday 23rd December 2009
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dvs_dave said:
JERRYCO said:
Basically we were travelling in lane 3 on M62 doing around 65mph with approximately six vehicles around us on an unlit section. Visibility was good and the roads were clear of snow and ice (or so I thought!). Just before the crash, the road surface appeared to change and had a milky/hazy look to it. In a flash the back end spun out, I had a bit of a fight with it and seemed to get it going in the right direction but it wasn't to be. I think the main problem was that it was so dark and happened so fast that I didnt have a point of reference or knew which way was forward. We ended up wedged under the armco on the hard shoulder, nose first, up to the dashboard. Amazingly, we did not hit any of the other cars that were on the motorway around us, even more amazing though, noone stopped to help us - we had to phone 999 ourselves from inside the car! It was only when we were in the ambulance, that we were told that the car had turned upside down. We had no idea that this had happened as everything had happened so quickly. The Fire Brigade couldn't believe how unscathed we were in the circumstances, and neither can my girlfriend or myself!!
That's horrific and no one stopping to help fills me with great sadness!

I'm amazed that the car rolled over and what a poor job the roll cage around the windscreen has appeared to have done. Was that damage done by the rollover or by the armco hitting the windscreen pillar and bending it down? It's hard to tell as it looks like the GRP roof and pillar sections have sprung back into their original positions.
Poor job?!

THey are walking and talking....


D14 AYS

3,694 posts

147 months

Wednesday 23rd December 2009
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sportie said:
I am glad that you were able to walk away to post on here.

My Sagaris rear end broke away whilst exiting a roundabout two weeks ago. It happened very quickly without warning and whilst I was driving it cautiously due to the damp conditions. After leaving the dual carriageway I hit several small trees before hitting one head-on which stopped me dead.I walked away unhurt

It suffered extensive front end damage, radiator, wings oil cooler etc and bent the chassis beyond repair........

However I was lucky as chassis's are available and repairs at £15k have been approved so mine will be back on the road sometime late Jan/Feb.

Take care out there, as these conditions and TVR's don't mix.....................
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jsr

1,155 posts

187 months

Thursday 24th December 2009
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Glad everyone is ok. I dread to think what would have happened if this was me in my chimaera with no rollcage. It's stories like this that has made me decide to get rid of my car for an Evo VIII/IX.
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HarryW

14,653 posts

206 months

Thursday 24th December 2009
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jsr said:
Glad everyone is ok. I dread to think what would have happened if this was me in my chimaera with no rollcage. It's stories like this that has made me decide to get rid of my car for an Evo VIII/IX.
Obviously tipped a decision that was already in the offing tbh, I suppose with an EVo you can now understeer into the scenery rather than oversteer into it.

jvr

731 posts

184 months

Thursday 24th December 2009
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jsr said:
Glad everyone is ok. I dread to think what would have happened if this was me in my chimaera with no rollcage. It's stories like this that has made me decide to get rid of my car for an Evo VIII/IX.
I must admit its been in my mind as like a lot of people I never use my car enough,but unless a rollover bar is fitted its probably no worse than other convertibles in a rollover situation.
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TheArb

445 posts

184 months

Thursday 24th December 2009
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Druid said:
JERRYCO said:
boot was full of 6 cases of beer (bottles) and every thing was ok.
A true Sagaris owner! thumbup
must have felt like being in a washing machine with 72 bottles.

quattrophenia

1,103 posts

135 months

Friday 25th December 2009
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dvs_dave said:
JERRYCO said:
Basically we were travelling in lane 3 on M62 doing around 65mph with approximately six vehicles around us on an unlit section. Visibility was good and the roads were clear of snow and ice (or so I thought!). Just before the crash, the road surface appeared to change and had a milky/hazy look to it. In a flash the back end spun out, I had a bit of a fight with it and seemed to get it going in the right direction but it wasn't to be. I think the main problem was that it was so dark and happened so fast that I didnt have a point of reference or knew which way was forward. We ended up wedged under the armco on the hard shoulder, nose first, up to the dashboard. Amazingly, we did not hit any of the other cars that were on the motorway around us, even more amazing though, noone stopped to help us - we had to phone 999 ourselves from inside the car! It was only when we were in the ambulance, that we were told that the car had turned upside down. We had no idea that this had happened as everything had happened so quickly. The Fire Brigade couldn't believe how unscathed we were in the circumstances, and neither can my girlfriend or myself!!
That's horrific and no one stopping to help fills me with great sadness!

I'm amazed that the car rolled over and what a poor job the roll cage around the windscreen has appeared to have done. Was that damage done by the rollover or by the armco hitting the windscreen pillar and bending it down? It's hard to tell as it looks like the GRP roof and pillar sections have sprung back into their original positions.
Sorry to hear about you motor, and a speedy recovery to you both.
Although the car is in a mess I am thinking what it would look like without the extra stiffness of the roll cage, especially if you rolled it. I think having the roll cage has saved you a lot more serious injury of heaven forbid ...worse.
Although I love my TVR, it's incidents like this that remind us all what we drive, and at the end of the day they are cars not really tested or built for crashing. Get well soon.

Targarama

14,185 posts

220 months

Friday 25th December 2009
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Scarey - glad you're both OK. Judging by the damage to the side impact bar in the door it looks like you hit something hard side on too. I can't work out how the front roll bar ended up so low unless it was bent by the recovery guys? Or did the roof/screen bend down and spring back up again once righted? Whatever the case, you would not have been so lucky in a Chimaera or Griffith!

Now take it easy over Christmas while persuing the classifieds for the next fun car! driving

gemini

11,351 posts

201 months

Friday 25th December 2009
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Go for a bitta bling?

Gaz Fosters nubula black Sag for sale in West Yorks?

WorAl

10,877 posts

125 months

Friday 25th December 2009
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Quinny said:
For those having a dig at the rollcage, no one knows what impacts it took during the accident...

Its more than possible that it took a massive hit, and then took another one at a different angle, or position... If thats the case (and no one knows for sure) I'd suggest it performed extremely well.... To be able to virtually walk away from a 65mph crash with a few cuts and bruises (allbeit nasty ones) tells me the car did its job... Especially no leg injuries on a car buried up to the dash under an armcoyikes


Anyway, all the best to you and the GF, hope you both make a quick recoverysmile
They were my thoughts, but until the OP comes back with more info I'll not argue too much. if thats off one impact on the floor the OP is lucky the car didnt roll again, if its from a couple, I would say the rollcage has stood up very well.

The Surveyor

6,228 posts

174 months

Friday 25th December 2009
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WorAl said:
.....lucky the car didnt roll again, if its from a couple, I would say the rollcage has stood up very well.
Another roll Alan and he could have lost his beer as well ... laugh

This horrific accident shouldn't be seen as a reason to sell up your TVR's, just a reminder to take it easy and drive to the conditions.

Paul

WorAl

10,877 posts

125 months

Saturday 26th December 2009
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The Surveyor said:
WorAl said:
.....lucky the car didnt roll again, if its from a couple, I would say the rollcage has stood up very well.
Another roll Alan and he could have lost his beer as well ... laugh
if he hadn't been using his seatbelt to secure the beer he probably wouldn't have had the shoulder injury either but that just wouldn't be TVR like would it! hehe

only joking op,glad you are around to see another day and hope you recover soon

*TVR* gaz

34 posts

120 months

Saturday 26th December 2009
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Has this put you off owning another TVR ?
I had a similar experiance on the M6 when my Tuscan bust into flames.
Within a month the bug was not biting and I had another within 6 weeks
My Mate hit the centre reservation at 120 mph and walked away unhurt. hes also looking for another.
Like falling of a horse you just gotta get back on .

NCC

423 posts

221 months

Saturday 26th December 2009
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Flipping heck, only just seen this! So sorry to see your car destroyed Mark as I've admired it on several runs out, but good to know that you both walked away from the accident. Hope the rest of Christmas hasn't been ruined.

Skipe

616 posts

132 months

Sunday 27th December 2009
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D14 AYS said:
sportie said:
I am glad that you were able to walk away to post on here.

My Sagaris rear end broke away whilst exiting a roundabout two weeks ago. It happened very quickly without warning and whilst I was driving it cautiously due to the damp conditions. After leaving the dual carriageway I hit several small trees before hitting one head-on which stopped me dead.I walked away unhurt

It suffered extensive front end damage, radiator, wings oil cooler etc and bent the chassis beyond repair........

However I was lucky as chassis's are available and repairs at £15k have been approved so mine will be back on the road sometime late Jan/Feb.

Take care out there, as these conditions and TVR's don't mix.....................
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My thoughts exactly! Glad to hear you are OK and the same for the original post but reading this thread fills me with sadness, we can't keep losing these cars!

Never ever ever getting mine out in Winter....

rev-erend

19,931 posts

221 months

Tuesday 29th December 2009
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Glad you got out OK - modern TVR's at least have great crash protection.

Sadly we see this every year - TVR's are not the best car for snow / ice as they are too light and have tyres that are too wide plus have no TC ABS etc.. sometimes it's just best to leave them at home and really enjoy them in better conditions.

JERRYCO

Original Poster:

133 posts

160 months

Tuesday 29th December 2009
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*TVR* gaz said:
Has this put you off owning another TVR ?
I had a similar experiance on the M6 when my Tuscan bust into flames.
Within a month the bug was not biting and I had another within 6 weeks
My Mate hit the centre reservation at 120 mph and walked away unhurt. hes also looking for another.
Like falling of a horse you just gotta get back on .
No I would buy one tomorrow, i'll just wait for the insurance money and then lets go shopping!!!!

JERRYCO

Original Poster:

133 posts

160 months

Wednesday 30th December 2009
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After hearing the news this AM to find out that 3 people died after crashing and rolling there car on the M62, I think I might stay with the Sag.