RE: 'TVR Remanufacturer' Faces Legal Threat
Discussion
I cannot for the life of me understand why PH give these articles so much web space? Sure there is still lots of interest in TVR from owners/enthusiasts - but only if its real.
It seems to me if NS's dog e-mailed PH an article about TVR coming back with Indesit engines PH would publish it.
Why not wait until there are some real premises, some real cars in production, some real prices - then take it seriously and publish it?
It seems to me if NS's dog e-mailed PH an article about TVR coming back with Indesit engines PH would publish it.
Why not wait until there are some real premises, some real cars in production, some real prices - then take it seriously and publish it?
As a former TVR Tuscan owner, and a real enthusiast of TVR's....... I wanted something new, but it never happened.
I now drive a BMW M3, and now I have happy reliable motoring, and my engine will certainly last longer than any AJP Straight Six. And if I feel the urge, a supercharger kit can be fitted giving me over 500bhp of total reliability.
I waited long enough for the Russian to get something into production, but it never happened and I don't think it ever will.
Love the cars, hate the company.
I now drive a BMW M3, and now I have happy reliable motoring, and my engine will certainly last longer than any AJP Straight Six. And if I feel the urge, a supercharger kit can be fitted giving me over 500bhp of total reliability.
I waited long enough for the Russian to get something into production, but it never happened and I don't think it ever will.
Love the cars, hate the company.
I think that whomever is doing this has got it right. Owning a TVR in the USA will give you real exclusivity. What I wonder is what they are doing to get them approved for the American market. When I moved to California in 03, I wanted to take my TVR with me. I spoke with an importer who told me to forget it. It wasn't the engine. It was the whole car.
I can certainly think of a few good engines to replace the speed six. Not just American Muscle, but maybe a couple of the German variety.
I can certainly think of a few good engines to replace the speed six. Not just American Muscle, but maybe a couple of the German variety.
Someone remind me how the first Griff' came to be?
The Russian was very eagre to sell off the unfinished cars when it suited him and I'm guessing didn't care what happened to them, inclusing what powerplant was fitted.
How about Eagle cars, whilst I know the Mk@ and E-Type are 'classics' are they not remanufactured Jags?
Maybe the guys in the US should just market the cars as restored and upgraded?
Tim
The Russian was very eagre to sell off the unfinished cars when it suited him and I'm guessing didn't care what happened to them, inclusing what powerplant was fitted.
How about Eagle cars, whilst I know the Mk@ and E-Type are 'classics' are they not remanufactured Jags?
Maybe the guys in the US should just market the cars as restored and upgraded?
Tim
So they didn't like the 'whole car'.
Maybe they'd better stick to those safe reliable Toyotas then.
The Americans have done TVR no favours in the past, so perhaps it would be better if they stick to building decent engines, and leave building cars with 'character' to us.
TVR is dead folks...get over it.
Maybe they'd better stick to those safe reliable Toyotas then.
The Americans have done TVR no favours in the past, so perhaps it would be better if they stick to building decent engines, and leave building cars with 'character' to us.
TVR is dead folks...get over it.
thirsty said:
I think that whomever is doing this has got it right. Owning a TVR in the USA will give you real exclusivity. What I wonder is what they are doing to get them approved for the American market. When I moved to California in 03, I wanted to take my TVR with me. I spoke with an importer who told me to forget it. It wasn't the engine. It was the whole car.
There is some sort of exemptions for kit cars, which is effectively what is being proposed here. When I looked briefly at shipping my Sag I was advised that the only way to do it was to dismantle the car and ship the pieces and then re-assemble it and register it as a kit car.
grahamw48 said:
The Americans have done TVR no favours in the past, so perhaps it would be better if they stick to building decent engines, and leave building cars with 'character' to us.
The Americans have done TVR no favours? The original Griffith practically defined what TVR is! If Wheeler could have afforded to get the cars through regs (and the warranty claims!) he would have sold 90's Griffs and Cerbs well in the US IMO and Tuscans, Sags and T350's would have wowed the Yanks.
unrepentant said:
grahamw48 said:
The Americans have done TVR no favours in the past, so perhaps it would be better if they stick to building decent engines, and leave building cars with 'character' to us.
The Americans have done TVR no favours? The original Griffith practically defined what TVR is! If Wheeler could have afforded to get the cars through regs (and the warranty claims!) he would have sold 90's Griffs and Cerbs well in the US IMO and Tuscans, Sags and T350's would have wowed the Yanks.
unrepentant said:
grahamw48 said:
The Americans have done TVR no favours in the past, so perhaps it would be better if they stick to building decent engines, and leave building cars with 'character' to us.
The Americans have done TVR no favours? The original Griffith practically defined what TVR is! If Wheeler could have afforded to get the cars through regs (and the warranty claims!) he would have sold 90's Griffs and Cerbs well in the US IMO and Tuscans, Sags and T350's would have wowed the Yanks.
unrepentant said:
grahamw48 said:
The Americans have done TVR no favours in the past, so perhaps it would be better if they stick to building decent engines, and leave building cars with 'character' to us.
The Americans have done TVR no favours? The original Griffith practically defined what TVR is! If Wheeler could have afforded to get the cars through regs (and the warranty claims!) he would have sold 90's Griffs and Cerbs well in the US IMO and Tuscans, Sags and T350's would have wowed the Yanks.
Rubbish.
As far as the later cars go, daydreaming about what MIGHT have been is a pretty pointless exercise I'd have thought.
grahamw48 said:
unrepentant said:
grahamw48 said:
The Americans have done TVR no favours in the past, so perhaps it would be better if they stick to building decent engines, and leave building cars with 'character' to us.
The Americans have done TVR no favours? The original Griffith practically defined what TVR is! If Wheeler could have afforded to get the cars through regs (and the warranty claims!) he would have sold 90's Griffs and Cerbs well in the US IMO and Tuscans, Sags and T350's would have wowed the Yanks.
Rubbish.
ts. They hated the whole workforce and the whole workforce hated them.unrepentant said:
grahamw48 said:
unrepentant said:
grahamw48 said:
The Americans have done TVR no favours in the past, so perhaps it would be better if they stick to building decent engines, and leave building cars with 'character' to us.
The Americans have done TVR no favours? The original Griffith practically defined what TVR is! If Wheeler could have afforded to get the cars through regs (and the warranty claims!) he would have sold 90's Griffs and Cerbs well in the US IMO and Tuscans, Sags and T350's would have wowed the Yanks.
Rubbish.
Don't get me wrong, I love the Griffith 200/400 and all that they represent, and have seen them racing many times back in the sixties and since then too, but from the off TVRs were lightweight cars using a variety of mainly small engines. Perhaps that's why the (rare) larger engined models were so exciting and memorable.
Much larger enterprises have 'failed in America'...Jaguar and MG included, despite all those sales made by post-war dollar-hungry Britain.
grahamw48 said:
I think you're using your rose-coloured glasses here.
Don't get me wrong, I love the Griffith 200/400 and all that they represent, and have seen them racing many times back in the sixties and since then too, but from the off TVRs were lightweight cars using a variety of mainly small engines. Perhaps that's why the (rare) larger engined models were so exciting and memorable.
Eh? That's my whole point. Before the Griffith TVR used small engines from Ford or Triumph or elsewhere. Modern TVR's use big engines with huge power. The Griffith defined what TVR became and what it is today to most people - light sportscars with a big PTW ratio and big bang per buck.Don't get me wrong, I love the Griffith 200/400 and all that they represent, and have seen them racing many times back in the sixties and since then too, but from the off TVRs were lightweight cars using a variety of mainly small engines. Perhaps that's why the (rare) larger engined models were so exciting and memorable.
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Much larger enterprises have 'failed in America'...Jaguar and MG included, despite all those sales made by post-war dollar-hungry Britain.
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Geeez .. do you even know what you are talking about? Jaguar and MG failed in America?
Americans loved those cute British cars (MG) and bought bucket loads of them in the 60s and 70s. Jaguar is still THE status car there, except in Beverly Hills where everyone drives a Prius.
Much larger enterprises have 'failed in America'...Jaguar and MG included, despite all those sales made by post-war dollar-hungry Britain.
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Geeez .. do you even know what you are talking about? Jaguar and MG failed in America?
Americans loved those cute British cars (MG) and bought bucket loads of them in the 60s and 70s. Jaguar is still THE status car there, except in Beverly Hills where everyone drives a Prius.
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