If TVR went bust

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JohnLow

1,763 posts

266 months

Friday 3rd May 2002
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Last ever post to this negatively titled thread. And I'm not reading it again either.

Please post to a new thread with a more positive title and let this one drown.

plotloss

67,280 posts

271 months

Friday 3rd May 2002
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Off topic a bit, but still applicable ish.

Just for comparison it takes about 3 weeks ish to build a DB7. They filmed a guy working on the line and he walked several miles everyday taking parts from the racks and assesmbling them onto the car. However by changing processes (look up Kaisen on a search engine) the production rate was increased by 5 cars ish a week.

I'm a mechanical engineering student currently in the final year. I have done a bit of work on manufacturing methods and was taught by a guy with 40 years industrial experience. Some of the things he came out with about British versus Japanese methods were amazing relating to manufacturing and design quality. Now before you say that all Japanese production is mass produced stuff and TVR's ain't, a lot of similar processes still apply.

Its not all mumbo jumbo we are taught nowadays, but unless things change a bit a made in GB/UK sticker will never been seen again.

Rant over, cheers for reading.



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Ahhhhh KAIZEN, NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Please stop, my ears are bleeding, my legs have fallen off, more japanese claptrap about how one should run a business!

Continuous improvement my arse, the fella that popularised this (forget his name) was being looked for by Interpol and the CIA as he has ripped off countless companies for what is basically common sense. Empower your employee's to change their own jobs making them more profitable. Its not exactly bloody rocket science is it.

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Matt.

paul

343 posts

285 months

Friday 3rd May 2002
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If the management are foolish enough to buy Demming's premise of process decomposition and skill-opacity out of context ...




Paul,

Exactly what I had thought . I know you're in NYC but can we have it in English?



Demming: Blokey with idea.
Process decomposition: reduce tasks into small units of work that can be dished out to anyone.
skill-opacity: Concept that small units of work do not require specific "skill" to do.
i.e. Demming believed that by parcelling up work into small, simple units, any old fool could do it - so if you took your complex manufacturing process and divided it into these units, you could have an army of unskilled labour that could be rotated around without impacting the output of the process....

...I'll get me coat

paul

343 posts

285 months

Friday 3rd May 2002
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However by changing processes (look up Kaisen on a search engine) the production rate was increased by 5 cars ish a week.
I'm a mechanical engineering student currently in the final year. I have done a bit of work on manufacturing methods and was taught by a guy with 40 years industrial experience. Some of the things he came out with about British versus Japanese methods were amazing relating to manufacturing and design quality. Now before you say that all Japanese production is mass produced stuff and TVR's ain't, a lot of similar processes still apply.



There is no panacea in the dirty world of manufacturing only crusty old-lecturers who would lead you to believe that.

philshort

8,293 posts

278 months

Friday 3rd May 2002
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Kaizen, 5S, been there, done that. Got the T shirt!

Like someone said, its a complete rip-off, selling common sense to fools who ought to know better. Knew a guy who made a fortune flogging this stuff, he's living it large in the States now.

And how well is the Japanese economy these days? So much for Kaizen then!

Yes, there is a place for process improvement, but the concept of reducing all processes to mindless routine is a slipperly slope to nowhere. Innovation doesn't live there. Nissan Micras do.

veryplast

167 posts

279 months

Saturday 4th May 2002
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if this and if that.....sorry it will not happen....think positive!!!!!