Winter tyres vol 2

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matthias73

2,883 posts

151 months

Sunday 29th October 2017
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You could get the same genuine bbs alloys and good winter tyres from 750-800 quid instead.

That way you have better choice of tyre and they are winter specific alloys wink

Fox-

13,241 posts

247 months

Sunday 29th October 2017
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FlatToTheMat said:
It wasn't sorry, I was posing a genuine question to the thread.

Why do motorists of warm country's choose winter or rain tyres? Are there reasons beyond price etc?
These are not warm countries in winter - January in Zagreb for example has maximum temperatures not much above freezing!

T16OLE

2,946 posts

192 months

Sunday 29th October 2017
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I’m waiting for the right time to fit my set of winter tyres to the 640d.

I was trying to have the summers hold out for swap time. The rears didn’t make it and had to be replaced with another pair of summer tyres about a month ago.

The fronts are down to 3mm now I felt them loose grip on a greasy roundabout the other morning for the first time.

How bad are winter tyres in the moderately mild current weather?


DailyHack

3,186 posts

112 months

Monday 30th October 2017
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Now is the time to swap, (-2C) for my commute today (North West England) it has has begun!

DailyHack

3,186 posts

112 months

Monday 30th October 2017
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T16OLE said:
How bad are winter tyres in the moderately mild current weather?
My winters have been on since September (BMW 320d) and been great, no problems at all in mild weather.

jon-

16,511 posts

217 months

Monday 30th October 2017
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Fox- said:
jon- said:
What summer tyre do you classify as good in the tested sizes (most often 205/55 R16)?! As far as wet grip goes, the Conti is usually top.
The UHP tyres as they are more relevant to most of us on here. I'm not bothered how a PremiumContact performs as I don't buy them.
Then you need to be looking out for the 18" winter tyre tests not 16". If they include a reference it will be one of the top UHP tyres.

RicksAlfas

13,407 posts

245 months

Monday 30th October 2017
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DailyHack said:
Now is the time to swap, (-2C) for my commute today (North West England) it has has begun!
Yes, iced up windows for the first time this season. I usually reckon around the clocks changing is the time to get them done.

jon-

16,511 posts

217 months

Monday 30th October 2017
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Sportidge

1,032 posts

238 months

Monday 30th October 2017
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jon- said:
Have they sacked Nathan Rao?

Worst in 5 years is off the bottom of the scale for the Express - They usually forecast the worst in eleventy billion years, with six feet of snow lasting until next August rolleyes

Fox-

13,241 posts

247 months

Tuesday 31st October 2017
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So I was almost set on a set of the Mini 16 inch winter wheels until I find out they use a narrower rim than the regular 16s and thus 175/60/16 tyres.

In theory that's great because snow performance is better with narrow rubber.

In practice it's ridiculous as it's probably the most obscure tyre size ever and there appears to be only a single make and model of tyre available - Dunlop Winter Sport 3d. They are only available as RFT and the uniqueness of them means they are very expensive too.

Plus it seems fairly risky to have a tyre size served by only a single tyre. What if Dunlop stop making them?

Back to the drawing board.

jon-

16,511 posts

217 months

Tuesday 31st October 2017
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Fox- said:
What if Dunlop stop making them?

Back to the drawing board.
If the Dunlop tyres are OE (*marked) they'll be on at least a 5 year, if not a 10 year production contract.

nickfrog

21,185 posts

218 months

Tuesday 31st October 2017
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jon- said:
We're doomed. As usual.
laugh

No worries. Brexit will solve that too.

Fox-

13,241 posts

247 months

Tuesday 31st October 2017
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jon- said:
Fox- said:
What if Dunlop stop making them?

Back to the drawing board.
If the Dunlop tyres are OE (*marked) they'll be on at least a 5 year, if not a 10 year production contract.
I guess but the lack of choice still bothers me and the sport 3d is a very old tyre.

I notice 195/55/16 has a huge choice and has a rolling radius of just 0.4% more.

Will they fit a 5.5" wide rim without issues?

Mr2Mike

20,143 posts

256 months

Tuesday 31st October 2017
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jon- said:
yes It's a bit sad that so many people lap up this utter drivel. Wait until spring and they will be forecasting the hottest summer since the beginning of the universe.

RicksAlfas

13,407 posts

245 months

Tuesday 31st October 2017
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Any recommendations for runflat winters in 205/55/16 91H to replace some worn Dunlop 3Ds on my Dad's 320d?
He wants to stick with runflats but they don't need to be manufacturer approved.

Also, does anyone know if the 2017 3 series still uses the ABS sensors for tyre pressure monitoring, or are we going to be looking at new valves this time?

(The wheels and tyres are left from his previous F30 which I think was a 2013).

Fox-

13,241 posts

247 months

Tuesday 31st October 2017
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RicksAlfas said:
Also, does anyone know if the 2017 3 series still uses the ABS sensors for tyre pressure monitoring, or are we going to be looking at new valves this time?
All post 2014 BMW's use proper pressure monitoring valves now.

matthias73

2,883 posts

151 months

Tuesday 31st October 2017
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Fox- said:
So I was almost set on a set of the Mini 16 inch winter wheels until I find out they use a narrower rim than the regular 16s and thus 175/60/16 tyres.

In theory that's great because snow performance is better with narrow rubber.

In practice it's ridiculous as it's probably the most obscure tyre size ever and there appears to be only a single make and model of tyre available - Dunlop Winter Sport 3d. They are only available as RFT and the uniqueness of them means they are very expensive too.

Plus it seems fairly risky to have a tyre size served by only a single tyre. What if Dunlop stop making them?

Back to the drawing board.
Go online and buy any aftermarket alloy you like the look of in the size you want.

RicksAlfas

13,407 posts

245 months

Wednesday 1st November 2017
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Fox- said:
All post 2014 BMW's use proper pressure monitoring valves now.
Arse.
OK thanks.

Fox-

13,241 posts

247 months

Wednesday 1st November 2017
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matthias73 said:
Go online and buy any aftermarket alloy you like the look of in the size you want.
I'm really keen to avoid the look of aftermarket wheels so I'd like to keep it to genuine ones only.

matthias73

2,883 posts

151 months

Wednesday 1st November 2017
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Fox- said:
I'm really keen to avoid the look of aftermarket wheels so I'd like to keep it to genuine ones only.
Understandable, but it sounds like you're having a hard time finding some that suit you.

Why don't you at least have a look? You might find something that looks really similar and when you put on the mini centrecaps, will look stock.