Winter tyres vol 2
Discussion
During the deep freeze recently.
Fwd electrically powered hatchback on low rolling resistance tyres, somewhat unstable despite being driven very carefully. I would add that the traction control on the milk float is actually very good.
Massive tank of a RWD Mercedes with big gobs of V8 torque on conti winter contacts, genuinely no problem as long as you remember how heavy it is.
I drove the tank to work for a couple of days as it was on the right rubber.
Fwd electrically powered hatchback on low rolling resistance tyres, somewhat unstable despite being driven very carefully. I would add that the traction control on the milk float is actually very good.
Massive tank of a RWD Mercedes with big gobs of V8 torque on conti winter contacts, genuinely no problem as long as you remember how heavy it is.
I drove the tank to work for a couple of days as it was on the right rubber.
Nine-Eighty-Six said:
A DSG box is just a manual box with twin automated clutch packs. Use of gears is no different - if anything, the DSG clutches will operate much more smoothly than any person could operate one.
Well this is quite obviously wrong. The use of gears is very different since it's sequential, and if the clutches are operating more smoothly than you can control a manual clutch, it's time to brush up on those skills.Mr2Mike said:
Nine-Eighty-Six said:
A DSG box is just a manual box with twin automated clutch packs. Use of gears is no different - if anything, the DSG clutches will operate much more smoothly than any person could operate one.
Well this is quite obviously wrong. The use of gears is very different since it's sequential, and if the clutches are operating more smoothly than you can control a manual clutch, it's time to brush up on those skills.ruprechtmonkeyboy said:
Mr2Mike said:
Nine-Eighty-Six said:
A DSG box is just a manual box with twin automated clutch packs. Use of gears is no different - if anything, the DSG clutches will operate much more smoothly than any person could operate one.
Well this is quite obviously wrong. The use of gears is very different since it's sequential, and if the clutches are operating more smoothly than you can control a manual clutch, it's time to brush up on those skills.Yes there's a definite skill in getting the best from a manual box, likewise understanding how to do the same with an automatic is a skill, a different one but nevertheless.
I have just put Goodyear Vector 4 seasons on my Octavia VRS to replace the standard Bridgestone potenzas which were worn out.
Maybe they need to scrub in, but they feel a bit vague. I would say worse than the worn out tyres they replaced.
I had nangkang all seasons on a Passat a few years back and didn't notice is so much... so I am surprised. Maybe the Passat just handled like s
t anyway so the difference was not as noticible.
Maybe they need to scrub in, but they feel a bit vague. I would say worse than the worn out tyres they replaced.
I had nangkang all seasons on a Passat a few years back and didn't notice is so much... so I am surprised. Maybe the Passat just handled like s
t anyway so the difference was not as noticible.My Nankang SV2 have just been tested..warm deg and slightly damp
...35mph through traffic lights when someone ran their red light. Full on stamp on brakes, antilock brakes activated, no sliding, threw steering to right at last second as was going to t-bone the passenger. Lots of tyre smoke. Stopped with a mm to spare.
Fairly impressed with the tyre grip.
No skid marks left.
...35mph through traffic lights when someone ran their red light. Full on stamp on brakes, antilock brakes activated, no sliding, threw steering to right at last second as was going to t-bone the passenger. Lots of tyre smoke. Stopped with a mm to spare.
Fairly impressed with the tyre grip.
No skid marks left.
Glade said:
I have just put Goodyear Vector 4 seasons on my Octavia VRS to replace the standard Bridgestone potenzas which were worn out.
Maybe they need to scrub in, but they feel a bit vague. I would say worse than the worn out tyres they replaced.
I had nangkang all seasons on a Passat a few years back and didn't notice is so much... so I am surprised. Maybe the Passat just handled like st anyway so the difference was not as noticible.
Winters will feel worse due to softer rubber flexing more. Performance is the question though.Maybe they need to scrub in, but they feel a bit vague. I would say worse than the worn out tyres they replaced.
I had nangkang all seasons on a Passat a few years back and didn't notice is so much... so I am surprised. Maybe the Passat just handled like s
t anyway so the difference was not as noticible.cootuk said:
My Nankang SV2 have just been tested..warm deg and slightly damp
...35mph through traffic lights when someone ran their red light. Full on stamp on brakes, antilock brakes activated, no sliding, threw steering to right at last second as was going to t-bone the passenger. Lots of tyre smoke. Stopped with a mm to spare.
Fairly impressed with the tyre grip.
No skid marks left.
Sorry if stupid question but if you had ABS kicking in and there were no skid marks where did the tyre smoke come from?...35mph through traffic lights when someone ran their red light. Full on stamp on brakes, antilock brakes activated, no sliding, threw steering to right at last second as was going to t-bone the passenger. Lots of tyre smoke. Stopped with a mm to spare.
Fairly impressed with the tyre grip.
No skid marks left.
Dont know if it's been posted yet but this video is interesting
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qrlLirtHh10
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qrlLirtHh10
cootuk said:
Countdown said:
Sorry if stupid question but if you had ABS kicking in and there were no skid marks where did the tyre smoke come from?
From the very last bit when I threw the steering hard right so the tyres were 90degree to the direction of travel(a) that’s not actually possible. (Your tyres would be fouling your steering and suspension)
(b) even if it WAS possible you would need skid marks in order to generate tyre smoke (it’s the loss of grip between the tyre and the road surface that creates both)
NRS said:
Winters will feel worse due to softer rubber flexing more. Performance is the question though.
Upon investigation the tyre place put <30 psi in each tyre, the recommendation under the fuel flap is 2.4 bar or 2.7 bar for economy... So I stuck 2.5 bar, which I think is about 35psi in and it's much better now!Looking for some all season tyres to go on new wheels for my wife's Audi A4 18" wheels so 235 40 18 but I cant find Michelin Cross climates or Goodyears equivalent in that size ?
Unless I have the sline sizes wrong?
Its a 2007 aA4 sline convertible TDI 140 that came with a set of 20" Bentley rims with horrid stretched tyres on them
I have no Handbook so used online site for reference
There must be something available for it?
Unless I have the sline sizes wrong?
Its a 2007 aA4 sline convertible TDI 140 that came with a set of 20" Bentley rims with horrid stretched tyres on them
I have no Handbook so used online site for reference
There must be something available for it?
mad4amanda said:
Looking for some all season tyres to go on new wheels for my wife's Audi A4 18" wheels so 235 40 18 but I cant find Michelin Cross climates or Goodyears equivalent in that size ?
Unless I have the sline sizes wrong?
Its a 2007 aA4 sline convertible TDI 140 that came with a set of 20" Bentley rims with horrid stretched tyres on them
I have no Handbook so used online site for reference
There must be something available for it?
There are Audi OE tyres in 245/40/R18 so you may well have the size slightly incorrect. However Vredestein Quatrac 5 all-seasons are available in 235/40/R18 and 245/40/R18 - we just put a set on our 2008 Merc ML320 (20") and have managed to use them in dry, wet and snow/ice conditions and they've been great so far. You're looking at about £106/corner in either of those sizes.Unless I have the sline sizes wrong?
Its a 2007 aA4 sline convertible TDI 140 that came with a set of 20" Bentley rims with horrid stretched tyres on them
I have no Handbook so used online site for reference
There must be something available for it?
Somebody mentioned further back that we didn't used to have winter tyres because the regular tyres weren't summer and had more aggressive tread.
Went to the design museum in London before Christmas (they have a Ferrari exhibition on) and here's a picture of the rear tyre of a Ferrari F40 from the 1990s (I think). If these were the standard tyres then it illustrates the point beautifully.
Went to the design museum in London before Christmas (they have a Ferrari exhibition on) and here's a picture of the rear tyre of a Ferrari F40 from the 1990s (I think). If these were the standard tyres then it illustrates the point beautifully.
Edited by smarty156 on Tuesday 9th January 14:10
8bit said:
mad4amanda said:
Looking for some all season tyres to go on new wheels for my wife's Audi A4 18" wheels so 235 40 18 but I cant find Michelin Cross climates or Goodyears equivalent in that size ?
Unless I have the sline sizes wrong?
Its a 2007 aA4 sline convertible TDI 140 that came with a set of 20" Bentley rims with horrid stretched tyres on them
I have no Handbook so used online site for reference
There must be something available for it?
There are Audi OE tyres in 245/40/R18 so you may well have the size slightly incorrect. However Vredestein Quatrac 5 all-seasons are available in 235/40/R18 and 245/40/R18 - we just put a set on our 2008 Merc ML320 (20") and have managed to use them in dry, wet and snow/ice conditions and they've been great so far. You're looking at about £106/corner in either of those sizes.Unless I have the sline sizes wrong?
Its a 2007 aA4 sline convertible TDI 140 that came with a set of 20" Bentley rims with horrid stretched tyres on them
I have no Handbook so used online site for reference
There must be something available for it?
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