Winter tyres vol 2

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Wills2

22,869 posts

176 months

Wednesday 14th February 2018
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RicksAlfas said:
jon- said:
That looks really steep on compacted snow / ice?
You're not from round here are you?
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A local joke for local people.

hehe

jon-

16,511 posts

217 months

Wednesday 14th February 2018
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Wills2 said:
RicksAlfas said:
jon- said:
That looks really steep on compacted snow / ice?
You're not from round here are you?
biggrin
A local joke for local people.

hehe
hehe

I do live at the top of a (hertfordshire) hill, so I have some experience with gradients smile You're right though, sometimes, even in testing, there's a type of snow that winter tyres just unexpectedly flap at.

I guess my point was, Hankook are now making decent tyres.

http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Article/2017-Sport-Au...
http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Article/2017-Auto-Exp...

I'm assuming you're on the Hankook Winter i cept evo2, which actually had strongest snow braking in the first test, which has a near mirror track with traction performance!

loskie

5,240 posts

121 months

Wednesday 14th February 2018
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You are comparing snow/ice. Totally different. Add into that fat tyres instead of skinny ones and there's your answer. Look at Rally cars on snow tyres, not studded ones they are stupidly skinny looking

Wills2

22,869 posts

176 months

Wednesday 14th February 2018
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jon- said:
Wills2 said:
RicksAlfas said:
jon- said:
That looks really steep on compacted snow / ice?
You're not from round here are you?
biggrin
A local joke for local people.

hehe
hehe

I do live at the top of a (hertfordshire) hill, so I have some experience with gradients smile You're right though, sometimes, even in testing, there's a type of snow that winter tyres just unexpectedly flap at.

I guess my point was, Hankook are now making decent tyres.

http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Article/2017-Sport-Au...
http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Article/2017-Auto-Exp...

I'm assuming you're on the Hankook Winter i cept evo2, which actually had strongest snow braking in the first test, which has a near mirror track with traction performance!
Yes those are the ones, I guess the source for my disappointment could be the Mrs saying you're a fool as I went out to show her how great my winters would be, only to come back in 2 minutes later shouting, I'm stuck! laugh

They have felt good in cold dry conditions and the wet though.




Edited by Wills2 on Wednesday 14th February 14:28

jon-

16,511 posts

217 months

Wednesday 14th February 2018
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Wills2 said:
I guess the source for my disappointment could be the Mrs saying your a fool as I went out to show her how great my winters would be
https://www.reddit.com/r/holdmybeer/

Wills2

22,869 posts

176 months

Wednesday 14th February 2018
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jon- said:
Wills2 said:
I guess the source for my disappointment could be the Mrs saying your a fool as I went out to show her how great my winters would be
https://www.reddit.com/r/holdmybeer/
This one is hilarious:


https://i.imgur.com/nHfVscm.gifv


Somewhatfoolish

4,368 posts

187 months

Sunday 25th February 2018
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Anyone else practicing their smug face in preparation for the next few days?

jon-

16,511 posts

217 months

Sunday 25th February 2018
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Somewhatfoolish said:
Anyone else practicing their smug face in preparation for the next few days?
Yep. I've Cup 2s on the M3 smile

(and I'm flying to Malta in the morning)

anonymous-user

55 months

Sunday 25th February 2018
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Never used them & not crashed in 35+ years of motoring
Waste of time in SE

g3org3y

20,639 posts

192 months

Sunday 25th February 2018
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Somewhatfoolish said:
Anyone else practicing their smug face in preparation for the next few days?
I put the winters back on yesterday. They are quite worn however (I'd estimate 3mm) but still plenty of sipes so hopefully should be more effective than the summers. Fingers crossed.

RammyMP

6,784 posts

154 months

Sunday 25th February 2018
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My Nokians have 10k miles on them now, they are starting to get a bit noisier. Still about 5mm of tread on them.

Although we haven’t had a lot of snow again this year, they are much better in the wet and were good in the few slushy days we’ve had. We’ve had one day of snow so far and I had no trouble getting out on to the main roads, I would have struggled with the summers on (255 section tyres).

1ians

398 posts

194 months

Sunday 25th February 2018
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Somewhatfoolish said:
Anyone else practicing their smug face in preparation for the next few days?
Held out all winter but finally fitted the winters to my 5 series today. Wouldn’t want my wife having problems when driving around with my 2 year old.

Was also good to know I had them last week as a backup plan for my alps trip when the 4x4 had an issue.

NRS

22,188 posts

202 months

Sunday 25th February 2018
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jon- said:
That looks really steep on compacted snow / ice?

There are physics limits to European winter tyres, I'm not sure anything else without studs would have got you there, assuming the Hankooks are a recent pattern and have good tread depth.
Studs might not even help there as on the left there is not enough ice for the studs to grab onto. I reckon in certain snow conditions with the wide tyres and so much bhp it will struggle on that slope even with winters.

DailyHack

3,186 posts

112 months

Sunday 25th February 2018
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g3org3y said:
I put the winters back on yesterday. They are quite worn however (I'd estimate 3mm) but still plenty of sipes so hopefully should be more effective than the summers. Fingers crossed.
Remember also it's not just the sipes, it's the actual rubber compound that helps with winter tyres also.

DailyHack

3,186 posts

112 months

Sunday 25th February 2018
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Mine are particularly noisy now, but they have been on since October and 13,000 miles - still plenty of mm left - this week won't be fun looking at weather, it's the inconsiderate mugs on the roads that think they are untouchable on summer rubber. Will look forward to driving around them (I may help them of course)

But seeing their faces when my rwd 3 series stops and overtakes them on snow, is priceless smile

Mr2Mike

20,143 posts

256 months

Monday 26th February 2018
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DailyHack said:
Mine are particularly noisy now, but they have been on since October and 13,000 miles - still plenty of mm left - this week won't be fun looking at weather, it's the inconsiderate mugs on the roads that think they are untouchable on summer rubber. Will look forward to driving around them (I may help them of course)

But seeing their faces when my rwd 3 series stops and overtakes them on snow, is priceless smile
That's a pretty serious case of smug poisoning. frown

hyphen

26,262 posts

91 months

Tuesday 27th February 2018
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Somewhatfoolish said:
Anyone else practicing their smug face in preparation for the next few days?
So how's the smug face going? As my lack of winter tyres has been a good decision over my entire lifetime (so far), -3 today and stopping fine in real world conditions.

Emergency braked yesterday for some idiot pedestrians and happy to report they all lived smile

RicksAlfas

13,407 posts

245 months

Tuesday 27th February 2018
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A knock on consequence of people not using winter tyres: People leaving their cars parked on the main road as they don't want to get stuck on their housing estate/executive development.

Where we live is hilly, and housing estates don't get gritted. So if the forecast is snow overnight, people park outside the housing estate. This morning the main road had nose-to-tail parking on both sides which meant stop start traffic in both directions. The road conditions were actually fine, but the traffic was worse because of the parking.

Speed addicted

5,576 posts

228 months

Tuesday 27th February 2018
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hyphen said:
Somewhatfoolish said:
Anyone else practicing their smug face in preparation for the next few days?
So how's the smug face going? As my lack of winter tyres has been a good decision over my entire lifetime (so far), -3 today and stopping fine in real world conditions.

Emergency braked yesterday for some idiot pedestrians and happy to report they all lived smile
There's 3" of snow outside my house, our road doesn't get cleared or gritted.
The 4x4 pickup with all season tyres is my winter vehicle as my summer tyre shod BMW 645 wouldn't make it out of the garage onto the drive, let alone out of the street.
The roads are far worse further into the hills and I might take a run out to take some photos later on.

Obviously being about 600 miles south of me your weather conditions will be significantly different, but I think I'll keep buying tyres appropriate for poor weather.

theboss

6,919 posts

220 months

Tuesday 27th February 2018
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Not so smug here.

Put 4 x 20” Alpin PA4 on my M5 in December which were fabulous when we had nearly a foot of snow to contend with in South Shropshire shortly after.

2 weeks ago a pothole or stray brick in the road wrote off a front tyre and rim so I put my summers back on figuring the lead time on a replacement winter meant it wasn’t worth bothering with this season.

Now we have significant snowfall forecast and I have to travel towards the end of the week - whilst I have 3 ridiculously expensive winters and 1 completely shagged one stacked in the shed.