Winter tyres vol 2

[Mr Tidy]

I sold my 325ti on 3 March, and the buyer didn't want the spare wheels with winters that I had used for the last few years - so I had to take them off! I wonder if he regrets that decision now?

But I never got to use them in the right conditions!

Until Saturday, because the 325i I bought as a replacement had winters on it anyway! Wow, what a difference - I'll buy some summers for it, but will definitely keep the winters.

[Zod]

qska said:

untakenname said:

Surely its best to have the best tyres on the driven wheels?
I've currently got federal rsr 595 tyres on the front of my car with 2mm of tread and rainsports on the back with 7mm, went for a prebooked service a couple of days back in a rural location and it was very hairy, car understeered everywhere and kept on following the camber of the road and the only way to bring it back in line was to repeatedly break traction by spinning up the rear wheels.
Nearly got stranded so I'm not driving in the snow till I get better tyres on it.
Still pleased I put the best tyres on the back though as there was no way I would have got up the hills.
Dashcam here if anyones interested (some nsfw language)
https://youtu.be/jNTchKRiyCk

That was proper dangerous driving in that clip.

The MOT was a poor excuse, there's always another day.

I hope we don't live close by.

Video unavailable.

[DailyHack]

Winters off the beamer (as of tonight and some very dirty hands) clocked up 15k miles on them since October, they have seen alot of snow and done me proud.

Nice to be back on my summers though, they were getting rather noisy at motorway speeds, definitely another season left in them though lots of meat still left on them. RIKEN Snowtimes

Edited by DailyHack on Tuesday 27th March 19:13

[Mr Tidy]

I only bought my E91 325i in February, and it came with virtually new Bridgestone Blizzaks which were great when it snowed.

But I've also bought a set of wheels with Pirelli "summers" on, and can't wait to get them fitted now to see how they compare.

[tobinen]

Not winter tyres I know but someone will hopefully be 'in the know'.

I am considering a set of all-season Pirelli Scorpion Verde in 235/60 R16

These are marked for SUVs. Is there any valid reason why I could not fit them to a 1998 MB CL420? The load rating is the same (100)

[jon-]

No reason

[DailyHack]

May have to swap this weekend to winters (very early this year, I know) with X4 winters with good tread sitting in the shed, my summers are nearing 2mm - with a wedding to pay for, price of a good set of tyres is a big hit!

[anonymous-user]

DailyHack said:

May have to swap this weekend to winters (very early this year, I know) with X4 winters with good tread sitting in the shed, my summers are nearing 2mm - with a wedding to pay for, price of a good set of tyres is a big hit!

Hope you don't have to brake suddenly on the motorway if you've got winters on this time of the year

[Monkeylegend]

ruprechtmonkeyboy said:

Hope you don't have to brake suddenly on the motorway if you've got winters on this time of the year

I ran winters for nearly three years through two hot summers, and you know what, they didn't melt, they did't throw me off the road and they always stopped me when I wanted them too, and when i changed them they had done 58k miles, so they didn't wear any quicker either.

In fact when it was raining or the roads were wet they were safer than summer tyres.

But we already know all this, it has been done to death and I have just added to it

[schmalex]

I’ve bought a set of Michelin CrossClimates for our Panda 4x4 winter car.

They seem to be excellent so far, with plenty of grip and low noise on the road and also work very well on the local green lanes. It’ll be interesting to see how they get on in the colder months.

[Monkeylegend]

I had Conti winter contacts and if you drive "normally", and by that I mean sensibly which is probably not normal for lots on here, you won't even know you have winters on unless you look at the tread pattern.

As in all tyres, buy good tyres and you will be ok, buy cheap ditch finders and you might not.

[anonymous-user]

Monkeylegend said:

ruprechtmonkeyboy said:

Hope you don't have to brake suddenly on the motorway if you've got winters on this time of the year

I ran winters for nearly three years through two hot summers, and you know what, they didn't melt, they did't throw me off the road and they always stopped me when I wanted them too, and when i changed them they had done 58k miles, so they didn't wear any quicker either.

In fact when it was raining or the roads were wet they were safer than summer tyres.

But we already know all this, it has been done to death and I have just added to it

Sounds risky tbh.

Also Bridgestone disagree with you so you might want to rethink https://www.bridgestone.co.uk/tyre-talk/article/5-...

[RicksAlfas]

ruprechtmonkeyboy said:

Sounds risky tbh.

It's not ideal. It's not perfect. But it's very unlikely that you or anyone else is going to die a fiery death because of it.

Would you rather the posters above used a set of matching decent branded winter tyres for the next couple of months, or went out and fitted a random set of part worn mis-matched ditchfinders to put them on because they said "summer" on them?

[anonymous-user]

RicksAlfas said:

It's not ideal. It's not perfect. But it's very unlikely that you or anyone else is going to die a fiery death because of it.

Would you rather the posters above used a set of matching decent branded winter tyres for the next couple of months, or went out and fitted a random set of part worn mis-matched ditchfinders to put them on because they said "summer" on them?

Why revert to such an obviously false dichotomy?

Surely the answer is that people should fit the appropriate tyre for the circumstances. If the tyre manufacturer states the tyre is unsuitable for summer conditions, fit one that that is.

It seems a perverse mindset to be concerned enough to fit winter tyres in winter, against less suitable 'summer' tyres, yet in the summer, retain less suitable winter ones.

[Monkeylegend]

ruprechtmonkeyboy said:

Monkeylegend said:

ruprechtmonkeyboy said:

Hope you don't have to brake suddenly on the motorway if you've got winters on this time of the year

I ran winters for nearly three years through two hot summers, and you know what, they didn't melt, they did't throw me off the road and they always stopped me when I wanted them too, and when i changed them they had done 58k miles, so they didn't wear any quicker either.

In fact when it was raining or the roads were wet they were safer than summer tyres.

But we already know all this, it has been done to death and I have just added to it

Sounds risky tbh.

Also Bridgestone disagree with you so you might want to rethink https://www.bridgestone.co.uk/tyre-talk/article/5-...

No need to rethink, I did it for several summers over the last 15 years when I was driving very big miles and not once did I wish I wasn't on winter tyres.

There was one occasion in summer when an artic pulled across a dual carriageway in the wet in front of me to turn right leaving his trailer stuck in the outside lane waiting for a gap to turn. It was only the fact I was on winters which stopped much quicker in the wet that saved me.

Don't forget that idiots are quite capable of crashing on summer tyres all year round, and prove this everyday.

[eltawater]

RicksAlfas said:

It's not ideal. It's not perfect. But it's very unlikely that you or anyone else is going to die a fiery death because of it.

Would you rather the posters above used a set of matching decent branded winter tyres for the next couple of months, or went out and fitted a random set of part worn mis-matched ditchfinders to put them on because they said "summer" on them?

Second this. Quite happily ran winter tyres well into the summer months on several of our cars over 9 years now. Apart from a bit more road noise, everything has been fine.

[eltawater]

janesmith1950 said:

It seems a perverse mindset to be concerned enough to fit winter tyres in winter, against less suitable 'summer' tyres, yet in the summer, retain less suitable winter ones.

Because I've found that whereas summer tyres will quite happily fail to grip in snowy conditions, the reverse is not true for winter tyres in summer. They don't suddenly leave you scrabbling for traction in the heat in the same way that I've watched my car spin the summer tyres on snow.

[DailyHack]

What have I started... 6mm (winters) or 2mm (Summers), I know what i would rather be on in heavy rain, what we are experiencing now...

Bearing in mind I live in the North of England, its not exactly Northern Italy - even over there I have friends that run them all year round, Bologna/Milan area and it is quite abit warmer there - they dont seem to have any issues...not ideal but, looking at some the state of peoples tyres in the local Asda carpark for example, im not being too reckless...

[Monkeylegend]

It's more about how you drive. Drive like an idiot and F1 slicks won't save you in the dry.

[Ninja59]

I always find as you near the end of one season to the next you get negatives either way, most noticeable is as you exit from Winter into Spring and the temperatures rise means that you ultimately struggle more.

Saying that I have just replaced my Bridgestone Blizzak tyre with Pirelli Sottozero 3 so it will be interesting to see how they perform this Winter.