Winter tyres vol 2
Discussion
RicksAlfas said:
You won't wear them out unless you are doing 24 hour trackdays.
I put mine on whenever is convenient around the clock change. I don't want to be putting them on fumbling around in the dark with snow blowing down my neck. Done it once - never again!
I've essentially done track days on winter tyres (dry testing) and you round off the sipe edges, but they hold together well.I put mine on whenever is convenient around the clock change. I don't want to be putting them on fumbling around in the dark with snow blowing down my neck. Done it once - never again!
Terzo123 said:
I've been thinking about getting a second set of alloys shod with winter rubber for the wife's car for a while.
Anyway I saw a set posted online.
A short journey and 150 quid later.
Tyres are Dunlop winters with about 4mm. Will last this winter anyway.
Yep, they'll do for another winter but I would replace in the spring.Anyway I saw a set posted online.
A short journey and 150 quid later.
Tyres are Dunlop winters with about 4mm. Will last this winter anyway.
I'm going to do the same, but the winters (currently at 4-5mm all round) will be replaced with a snow-biased all-season tyre in the spring, I just need to have a good look at which ones have the best wet braking performance.
It seems to me that AS tyres offer a better set of compromises than a full winter tyre for our conditions in Frankfurt.
gizlaroc said:
I have run winters all your round, still got more mileage out of them then the conti sport contact summers that were on before.
Not a good idea......https://www.bridgestone.co.uk/tyre-talk/article/5-...
ruprechtmonkeyboy said:
gizlaroc said:
I have run winters all your round, still got more mileage out of them then the conti sport contact summers that were on before.
Not a good idea......https://www.bridgestone.co.uk/tyre-talk/article/5-...
Muddle238 said:
Out of interest, how does everyone judge when to put their winters on?
It's a bit chilly here today, about 4 degrees and tomorrow is forecast to be even colder, but then the forecast into next week is about 10 degrees and rain. Trying to decide when to swap the wheels over doesn't seem so clear cut as I'd imagined it to be, as it's not consistently sitting below 7 degrees. Of course you have to expect temperature fluctuations throughout any season, I guess I'm just irrationally concerned I'll be wearing my new winters out excessively fast when it's 7.5 degrees
Even if the extreme arguments about the differences between summer and winter tyres were true, it's not like there's a switch at 7C - a bit under on summers or a bit over on winters isn't going to make that much difference.It's a bit chilly here today, about 4 degrees and tomorrow is forecast to be even colder, but then the forecast into next week is about 10 degrees and rain. Trying to decide when to swap the wheels over doesn't seem so clear cut as I'd imagined it to be, as it's not consistently sitting below 7 degrees. Of course you have to expect temperature fluctuations throughout any season, I guess I'm just irrationally concerned I'll be wearing my new winters out excessively fast when it's 7.5 degrees
It also depends on how you drive - if you go everywhere at 8/10ths then maybe you'll be testing the margins. Most 'normal' drivers would struggle to notice the difference.
Tyre life may be worth taking into account too - again, average driver / average car / average use, you'll probably be changing Winters due to age before they wear out, so you might as well get them on and get some use out of them. if you do a lot of miles and / or have a car that eats tyres then the calculation is more tricky.
Muddle238 said:
Out of interest, how does everyone judge when to put their winters on?
It's a bit chilly here today, about 4 degrees and tomorrow is forecast to be even colder, but then the forecast into next week is about 10 degrees and rain. Trying to decide when to swap the wheels over doesn't seem so clear cut as I'd imagined it to be, as it's not consistently sitting below 7 degrees. Of course you have to expect temperature fluctuations throughout any season, I guess I'm just irrationally concerned I'll be wearing my new winters out excessively fast when it's 7.5 degrees
My summers were getting worn so need replacing but generally I change them mid November when it’s not raining.It's a bit chilly here today, about 4 degrees and tomorrow is forecast to be even colder, but then the forecast into next week is about 10 degrees and rain. Trying to decide when to swap the wheels over doesn't seem so clear cut as I'd imagined it to be, as it's not consistently sitting below 7 degrees. Of course you have to expect temperature fluctuations throughout any season, I guess I'm just irrationally concerned I'll be wearing my new winters out excessively fast when it's 7.5 degrees
DailyHack said:
Remember winter tyres are made of more rubber so stay softer and grippier in colder weather, and tarmac is typically colder than the air also, 1degree near me this morning @ 5am, snow forecast this Saturday for me also.
Just to be pedantic, they actually have a higher % of silica (and other ingredients) compared to summer tyres, not natural rubber as that gets hard 
Muddle238 said:
Thanks for the advice. I swapped mine over last night, the summers didn't have a huge amount left, I figured even if the temperatures stay slightly mild, given the amount of rain forecast I may aswell make use of the deeper treads on the winter tyres.
This is my thinking, the forecast for my area (east midlands) is mild and wet right until Christmas getting mine fitted tomorrow.
I put my winters on a few weeks back but swapped my summers on as I’ve bought new wheels and wanted to check they fitted ok. They are new Goodyear eagle f1’s and with the cold weather last night they were pretty slidey. I’ll be putting the winters back on as it convinced me that the winters definitely do a good job in cold weather.
Paddy_N_Murphy said:
I feel slightly happier about the fitting of the CrossClimates after Jons video : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YO0zyQh2l3M
Yup that's quite impressive (result and video ). Mind, did not have a chance to drive them in conditions like that yet.But still very happy with my choice of CCs instead of full on winters (extra set for the cold season).Got cut off on the A3 by a $"%"§$!ä#äÖ taxi last week. Barsteward went from slow lane to fast lane without looking. Had to go from ~ 220 kph to ~ 100 in not much distance at all. Can report the ABS in the Mk7 Golf is nicely calibrated and that the CCs performed *very* well (dry braking, around 2 Celsius).
Not sure this would have worked out with regular winter tyres (OK, I probably would have driven slower
).Kolbenkopp said:
Yup that's quite impressive (result and video ). Mind, did not have a chance to drive them in conditions like that yet.But still very happy with my choice of CCs instead of full on winters (extra set for the cold season).
Got cut off on the A3 by a $"%"§$!ä#äÖ taxi last week. Barsteward went from slow lane to fast lane without looking. Had to go from ~ 220 kph to ~ 100 in not much distance at all. Can report the ABS in the Mk7 Golf is nicely calibrated and that the CCs performed *very* well (dry braking, around 2 Celsius).
Not sure this would have worked out with regular winter tyres (OK, I probably would have driven slower).
To be fair most proper winter tyres would probably have performed better than compromise CCs at 2 degrees C - but at that temperature I wouldn't be doing 220 kph anyway!). Mind, did not have a chance to drive them in conditions like that yet.But still very happy with my choice of CCs instead of full on winters (extra set for the cold season).Got cut off on the A3 by a $"%"§$!ä#äÖ taxi last week. Barsteward went from slow lane to fast lane without looking. Had to go from ~ 220 kph to ~ 100 in not much distance at all. Can report the ABS in the Mk7 Golf is nicely calibrated and that the CCs performed *very* well (dry braking, around 2 Celsius).
Not sure this would have worked out with regular winter tyres (OK, I probably would have driven slower
).I was on the A3 yesterday with full-on winters but managed to stay below 150 kph - I don't want points, and could really do without a ban!
Looks like I need to avoid MK7 Golf missiles on compromise tyres though.
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