Winter tyres vol 2
Discussion
Hideaway said:
Gtom said:
Well seeing as my dad's vauxhall combo and my mums corsa have both run winters all year round without any hassle and still driving nice (for what they are anyway) I think we will be just fine.
I don't think she has got a track day at donnington booked so the most taxing thing will be the 4 miles she drives to work at 30mph. Hardly pushing a car to its limits.
expect significantly increased wear.I don't think she has got a track day at donnington booked so the most taxing thing will be the 4 miles she drives to work at 30mph. Hardly pushing a car to its limits.
I got 24,000 miles out of a set of Dunlop Winter Sport SP3s on the rear of my 530d and 30,000 miles out of the fronts. That was running them constantly on the car for two years.
In fact, the only reason I had to replace them when I did was because the inner shoulders were bare due to the camber of the rear wheels.
Weight in the car made a huge difference to our though. When it snowed, the road out of our estate was enough of an incline to make it impassable when on summers and nothing in the car. When it was fully loaded with luggage, it got up there - but with a fair bit of slipping.
When it was unloaded and had winters on, it managed it fairly easliy - but not without slipping. When it was loaded and had winters on, there was no slipping at all. An unloaded RWD, front engined car is pretty much the worst thing you can drive on slippery conditions as there's so little traction - and it gets even worse with wide tyres.
I genuinely don't know why people are having trouble with winter tyres - other than putting it down to people making the decision to switch at a time when the roads were particularly greasy. In fairness, not something I would ever have thought about either.
The only time I had any problems in the Beemer on winters was a tight roundabout where the front washed out and then the rear stepped round when I backed off. You could put that down to the tyres, but seeing as the same thing happened in our quattro Audi on summer tyres a month or two back, I put it down to the road.
The simple fact is, that I'm converted. Most of my mates aren't and think I'm a tit for buying them. But as long as I have the space to store them, I'll continue to do it.
Edited by Kell on Monday 6th January 16:32
jacksparrow11 said:
so glad i didn't buy winter tyres , had placed an order but changed it for summers , so far they've been perfect and from what I've read , they are not bad in snow either, winters are a waste of money in my opinion unless u have the spare cash to not worry.
Once the initial outlay is made they don't cost any more, if the winters are wearing out the summers would be too, it actually feels like I am saving money at the moment because I haven't had to buy as many tyres as usual because for about 4 months of the year I am using winters which haven't needed to be replaced so far. I did buy extra wheels and am fortunate to have room to store them but so far the most expensive set of wheels was £100 for a full set for my XK8. The wheels for my wife's Berlingo were £25 and those for my Fiat Coupe £90 including a set of very good summer tyres. And when it snows I will still be moving!andyps said:
Once the initial outlay is made they don't cost any more, if the winters are wearing out the summers would be too, it actually feels like I am saving money at the moment because I haven't had to buy as many tyres as usual because for about 4 months of the year I am using winters which haven't needed to be replaced so far. I did buy extra wheels and am fortunate to have room to store them but so far the most expensive set of wheels was £100 for a full set for my XK8. The wheels for my wife's Berlingo were £25 and those for my Fiat Coupe £90 including a set of very good summer tyres. And when it snows I will still be moving!
Don't waste your breath - some people don't get it. As long as they stay off the roads when it's snowy/icy, I'm happy. 
Hideaway said:
Lucas Ayde said:
Yep .. the flipside of all the wind/rain coming in from the Atlantic is that temperatures have stayed relatively high (for Winter). Apart from a cold snap early-mid November there have not been many days to justify Winter tyre use yet.
Except almost every day where it has been less than 7c in the mornings.My Michelin SuperSports have far better dry or wet grip/traction than my Alpins winters down to 1-2c.
Bluebarge said:
Don't waste your breath - some people don't get it. As long as they stay off the roads when it's snowy/icy, I'm happy.
Kell said:
The simple fact is, that I'm converted. Most of my mates aren't and think I'm a tit for buying them. But as long as I have the space to store them, I'll continue to do it.
Well said both.Maracus said:
We didn't die.
You know, have winters on in the summer, they burst into flames.
Understand?
I always get a bit confused at this particular argument. Winters in Summer are fine because you didn't die, so they were fine. Right. Yet Summers in Winter, especially a winter like this one which is characterised by highish temps and relentless rain isn't fine and saying 'I've not had a problem with summers/I didnt die' is viewed as some sort of invalid argument...You know, have winters on in the summer, they burst into flames.
Understand?
Fox- said:
I always get a bit confused at this particular argument. Winters in Summer are fine because you didn't die, so they were fine. Right. Yet Summers in Winter, especially a winter like this one which is characterised by highish temps and relentless rain isn't fine and saying 'I've not had a problem with summers/I didnt die' is viewed as some sort of invalid argument...
Winters in summer at temps of 20c+ = bit less grip but progressive so you are aware when to back off; "might" wear more than a summer tyre but I've never noticed increased wear; braking distances will be slightly longer in an emergency than an equivalent summer tyre but not so much as the difference between a premium summer and a Linglong Hero etc summer; swapping to summers would still be preferable.Summers in winter when temperatures around or below zero = significantly less to no grip at all on snow or ice; very long braking distances = end up in hedge/blocking the bloody road.
The compromise in running winters all round over summers all round is therefore arguably less for much of the UK (South Coast bunnies and those who only ever use gritted roads/stay under the duvet when it's cold excepted).
St John Smythe said:
Maracus said:
Hideaway said:
Maracus said:
We didn't die.
Worse luckMoron.
All the thread needed was you to chip in. We can now get the party started...
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