Winter tyres vol 2

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jpp

282 posts

230 months

Thursday 4th December 2014
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jshell said:
kapiteinlangzaam said:
jshell said:
kapiteinlangzaam said:
RicksAlfas said:
Quick opinion chaps if you don't mind.
Which of these would you fancy on a Range Rover Classic?
It only does 1,500 miles a year, but most of it in the winter so I'll be leaving them on all year round. (shoot me now).

All very similar price fitted:

Hankook IceBear
Vredestein Wintrac4 Extreme
Continental CrossContact
Nokian WR-SUV
Bridgestone Blizzak

Thanks!
Nokian WRSUV.

Mine stay on all year round, and I do 20-30k miles PA
But surely you die, every summer, in a fireball, because you can't stop in time? You're reckless and endagering lives each and every time you drive that utter death-trap!

rofl
Oh yes, many times!

TBH Nokian make some really special tyres. These are easily as good as the OE summer Contis that I used to run. I cant see me buying anything other than these in the future, unless Nokian supercede them with something else.

They wear very acceptably too, at around 1mm per 4-5k miles.
The only light problem with some Nokian compounds is that if the tyres get heated, then cooled whilst parked they can slightly flat-spot which feels like a mild wheel imbalance. Apart from that they are ace and I ran Scandi compound Hakkapelitta's in all weathers on my old ML.
I've the same view on Nokians attached to my A6s. Grip is amazing on all but ice (sadly, if you don't have studs) - gets me up the hills and out of our village every time (provided I leave early enough and get back late enough) as they don't salt/grit around here. Have already helped avoid a couple of dozy tcensoredts too this year.

I'll have to see how these (All Weather +, extra load) ones wear - the Allroad's heavier and has a lot more grunt than the last 2.7 Avant I had them on.

Just hope Putin isn't making the Russian factory have all the defects routed to all us bourgeois conspirators in the West!

rllmuk

145 posts

158 months

Thursday 4th December 2014
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Patrick Bateman said:
In what conditions?

I had another hour long blast in the Clio today at 4 degrees on wet roads and there's no way any winter tyre would have gripped the same as the Goodyear Eagles I've got.
Quite. Which is why our cars are still on summer tyres (mine on, randomly, Eagle F1s also).
The winter wheels for both our cars are still sat in the garage, and will remain there till it gets colder. I don't buy in to the 7 degree thing at all.

I know a lot of people contend the need for winters, and I still have them primarily as a hangover from living in a village just outside of Huddersfield, and having to drive to work between Doncaster/Pontefract daily over country roads & Emley moor (refused to do M1/M62/A1 as I actually enjoy driving...). Back then I actually needed them, and I was mobile when everyone else wasn't.

Since moving back to Suffolk 4 years ago I can count the days I've needed them on one hand, but I still swap them over, as I know the benefit - hard habit to break!

smn159

12,765 posts

218 months

Thursday 4th December 2014
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Well mine are on now largely because I don't want to piss about changing them over when is DOES get colder smile

benjj

6,787 posts

164 months

Thursday 4th December 2014
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Patrick Bateman said:
In what conditions?

I had another hour long blast in the Clio today at 4 degrees on wet roads and there's no way any winter tyre would have gripped the same as the Goodyear Eagles I've got.
Very similar conditions, 3-4 degrees, wet roads, a few leaves etc.

The winters far out perform my £1000 worth of Bridgestones when it's like this.

benjj

6,787 posts

164 months

Thursday 4th December 2014
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sjj84 said:
Nankang sv2 any good? Can't say they're a brand I've heard of, third of the price of pirelli.
They're ok. Not amazing but perfectly serviceable.

I ran them on my wife's Golf TDi. They did winter-summer-winter-dead, I'm guessing around 17,000 miles. Probably would have lasted longer if I'd have taken them off over the middle summer smile

They were boggo 195/65/15 and I had them bought (from mytyres) and fitted (by local bloke) for under £220 all in.

Nothing to complain about for the price.

PK0001

347 posts

178 months

Thursday 4th December 2014
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I have just taken off my Goodyear Eagle Summers and fitted Dunlop SP Winter Sport 4Ds.

Grip is definitely better in the wet on the Dunlops. It is surprising how good winter tyres are in the wet, the tread pattern disperses water very well.

The last 3 years I have used Vredestein Wintracs which were excellent in the snow, ice, slush and rain but in the dry were a bit too soft. I could feel them squirming under cornering and acceleration.

The Dunlops are supposed to be harder wearing and don't feel as soft. Very pleased so far.

Car is 2010 Golf R.


rllmuk

145 posts

158 months

Thursday 4th December 2014
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smn159 said:
Well mine are on now largely because I don't want to piss about changing them over when is DOES get colder smile
Ha! Yes, doesn't help it's dark when I get home, and dark when I leave. Maybe this weekend...

Patrick Bateman

12,202 posts

175 months

Thursday 4th December 2014
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Given how much more decent mid-range tyres are, I'd swerve the Nankangs.

benjj

6,787 posts

164 months

Thursday 4th December 2014
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Patrick Bateman said:
Given how much more decent mid-range tyres are, I'd swerve the Nankangs.
Yep, for not a whole lot more you could get something pretty decent from Falken, Kumho, Vred etc.

Patrick Bateman

12,202 posts

175 months

Thursday 4th December 2014
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smn159 said:
Well mine are on now largely because I don't want to piss about changing them over when is DOES get colder smile
I've done that in previous years as well but I've taken my thermal boiler suit from work in preparation.

Hopefully it's another mild winter.

Bluebarge

4,519 posts

179 months

Thursday 4th December 2014
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Folks, don't forget that the air temperature quoted on the weather forecast is measured at a height of 5 feet above the ground in the various weather stations that submit the info for the forecast. This is so that it most closely resembles the temperature most people will feel on exposed skin (the face).

The road temperature, however, is usually 3-4c lower. This is why most cars fitted with an external temperature gauge will "bong" at 4c, because there is a risk that ice may be forming at road level even though the air temperature would suggest it's not cold enough. So, a forecast of 4c may mean a road temperature of 0c; so well worth having your winters on for that.

Davie

4,757 posts

216 months

Thursday 4th December 2014
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Solved my winter tyre dilemma on the 850 today by opting to spend £220.00 on a perfectly servicable 2.4 Volvo V70 instead.

Problem solved!

RenesisEvo

3,616 posts

220 months

Friday 5th December 2014
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I posted many pages back - I've finally taken the plunge! Just ordered a set of Uniroyal MS Plus 77 for my shed. They seemed to get reasonable reviews (e.g. 4th in the AutoExpress '14-'15 winter tyre test), my grandfather has done 250k on Uniroyals over the years without complaint, and the price was good - £265 for four, including fitting by a mobile service. I will report back once they're on.

Targarama

14,636 posts

284 months

Friday 5th December 2014
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I have just had 4x 195/45 x16 Nokian WR-A3's fitted to the wife's 2010 Fester by the local fitter - £10 a corner. So much quieter than the Continental Sport Contact 5s it had on before (Sport?! its a 1.4 automatic Fiesta, it handles tidily but fast and sporting are not in its vocabulary...).

Patrick Bateman

12,202 posts

175 months

Friday 5th December 2014
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Took the M5 for a blast on the same roads as I did the Clio yesterday but this time it was 1 or 2 degrees. Difference was far more noticeable with it being close to zero degrees.

sjj84

2,390 posts

220 months

Friday 5th December 2014
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benjj said:
Patrick Bateman said:
Given how much more decent mid-range tyres are, I'd swerve the Nankangs.
Yep, for not a whole lot more you could get something pretty decent from Falken, Kumho, Vred etc.
Sadly none of those brands make them in the correct size. It only seems to be nexan or nankangs at approx £50 each, or pirelli or bridgestone at £120 each.

Ideally I'd like vredestein quattrac's like I had on my previous run around all year. Not really keen on swapping tyres twice a year so would keep whatever on all year.

tjlees

1,382 posts

238 months

Friday 5th December 2014
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fifteen fcensoredking hours of heavy snow predicted in the Cotswolds (GL6) on Sunday/Monday Morning yikes

... and guess what? My 4x4 with brand new winter tyres is in the garage until fcensoredking wcensoredking Tuesday. scensoredt and more scensoredt




Edited by tjlees on Friday 5th December 21:21

Fox-

13,243 posts

247 months

Friday 5th December 2014
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tjlees said:
fifteen fcensoredking hours of heavy snow predicted in the Cotswolds (GL6) on Sunday/Monday Morning yikes

... and guess what? My 4x4 with brand new winter tyres is in the garage until fcensoredking wcensoredking Tuesday. scensoredt and more scensoredt
Calm down, I bet it's no big deal and doesn't actually happen hehe

tjlees

1,382 posts

238 months

Friday 5th December 2014
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Fox- said:
tjlees said:
fifteen fcensoredking hours of heavy snow predicted in the Cotswolds (GL6) on Sunday/Monday Morning yikes

... and guess what? My 4x4 with brand new winter tyres is in the garage until fcensoredking wcensoredking Tuesday. scensoredt and more scensoredt
Calm down, I bet it's no big deal and doesn't actually happen hehe
Calming down and manning up. 1:6 hill to go down then up and finally go down. now going to find out how a 1.5t sledge handles at 6 in the morning yikes

I feel a cold coming on .... and definitely diarrhea scratchchin

tenohfive

6,276 posts

183 months

Saturday 6th December 2014
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No you won't because unless GL6 has suddenly relocated to the North Yorkshire Moors you won't see any snow.