Cheap tyres VS premium brand tyres

Cheap tyres VS premium brand tyres

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Red 4

10,744 posts

188 months

Tuesday 27th February 2018
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I'm worried now about someone driving behind me who's slapped on a set of Kingpins and hasn't got the stopping power of my Pirellis.

Jeez. You can't win.smile

InitialDave

11,966 posts

120 months

Tuesday 27th February 2018
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Red 4 said:
I'm worried now about someone driving behind me who's slapped on a set of Kingpins and hasn't got the stopping power of my Pirellis.

Jeez. You can't win.smile
Need one of the old "Four Wheel Brakes" warning signs to go on the back saying "Decent Tyres Fitted".

Red 4

10,744 posts

188 months

Tuesday 27th February 2018
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InitialDave said:
Red 4 said:
I'm worried now about someone driving behind me who's slapped on a set of Kingpins and hasn't got the stopping power of my Pirellis.

Jeez. You can't win.smile
Need one of the old "Four Wheel Brakes" warning signs to go on the back saying "Decent Tyres Fitted".
Plus the world's biggest tow bar or maybe a few of 'em inline (I don't tow anything).





WarrenB

2,429 posts

119 months

Tuesday 27th February 2018
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Car-Matt said:
Yes...its definitely right to lump anyone on a pcp/pch/lease all into one pot and assume they are a lifestyle snob just getting one up on the neighbours and running their cars dangerously

Heaven forbid they may be an enthusiast who has worked out a more financially efficient of running their dream car.

Bloody idiots

You must feel so superior and clever having bought your own car outright. Enjoy that feeling
To be fair, I didn't lump everyone into the same pot. People getting a car just for posing around in, with no idea how to do basic maintenance or knowledge to look after it, they're all in the same pot.

And nope, I'm still paying my car off.

DailyHack

3,204 posts

112 months

Thursday 10th May 2018
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How I see it is - what brands do aircraft tyres use (i know little different, but), I am pretty sure they dont use budget tyres smile

Goodyear
Michelin
Dunlop Aircraft Tyres
Bridgestone

...all of which are used on aircraft all over the world.

Stick with these and you should be ok imo

IanCress

4,409 posts

167 months

Thursday 10th May 2018
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DailyHack said:
How I see it is - what brands do aircraft tyres use (i know little different, but), I am pretty sure they dont use budget tyres smile

Goodyear
Michelin
Dunlop Aircraft Tyres
Bridgestone

...all of which are used on aircraft all over the world.

Stick with these and you should be ok imo
I'm sure if Ryanair could get hold of Linglongs for their fleet they would do.

jon-

16,511 posts

217 months

Thursday 10th May 2018
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Kumho make tyres for the F16...

Until last year, Bridgestone hadn't made a good tyre in years. This is still true of the aftermarket UHP segment, the Potenza S001 wasn't great when it launched, and is even further behind competition now.

Red 4

10,744 posts

188 months

Thursday 10th May 2018
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jon- said:
Kumho make tyres for the F16...
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F-16's don't go round greasy roundabouts.

Kumho don't qualify as real budget tyres anyway - you need a Jinyu or Loveyoulongtime for that.

EazyDuz

2,013 posts

109 months

Thursday 10th May 2018
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I bet people who buy budget tyres also buy Wilko brand oil.

Davey S2

13,097 posts

255 months

Thursday 10th May 2018
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I'd never put budget tyres on any car but you don't need to spend a fortune to get good tyres.

My C Class estate came with Continental Conti Sports on it which were fine. I've changed them to Hankook Ventus V12 Evo 2's which I actually prefer and just as good in every department. Also quite a bit cheaper than the Contis.

Audi are putting Hankooks on the new RS4.

Guy I work with has my old Cayman S and has just changed the Michelins to 'Arrowspeed' tyres rolleyes

captain_cynic

12,114 posts

96 months

Thursday 10th May 2018
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Red 4 said:
F-16's don't go round greasy roundabouts.

Kumho don't qualify as real budget tyres anyway.
This, Kumho haven't been budget for years. Nexxen are your cheap Koreans these days, even then I'd have a set of those over No-Name Ditchfinders.

KU37's are good middle of the range tyres.

Funkstar De Luxe

788 posts

184 months

Thursday 10th May 2018
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What everyone seems to be ignoring here is that companies will charge you as much as they possibly can for their products.

Why are cheap tyres cheap? Because they are st. Do you think LingLong are devoted to giving people charitable prices? Or maybe they are charging as much as they possibly can for their known st tyres.

Finlandia

7,803 posts

232 months

Thursday 10th May 2018
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DailyHack said:
How I see it is - what brands do aircraft tyres use (i know little different, but), I am pretty sure they dont use budget tyres smile
They also use retreaded tyres though wink

underwhelmist

1,860 posts

135 months

Friday 11th May 2018
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Do premium brands make some bad tyres too? Years ago I bought a nearly new Accord with Pirelli P6000s. I didn’t know any better then but looking back I think they were crap, I replaced them with Bridgstones (I think) which were a vast improvement.

Were/are P6000s generally poorly regarded?

Mr Tidy

22,502 posts

128 months

Friday 11th May 2018
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underwhelmist said:
Do premium brands make some bad tyres too? Years ago I bought a nearly new Accord with Pirelli P6000s. I didn’t know any better then but looking back I think they were crap, I replaced them with Bridgstones (I think) which were a vast improvement.

Were/are P6000s generally poorly regarded?
I'm sure they do!

I had some Pirellis many years ago that were hopeless in the wet (but I can't remember which ones they were).

And I've got a BMW on Bridgestone Potenza run-flats (RE050 I think) that are dreadful! It'll be going onto decent non run-flats soon.

caelite

4,280 posts

113 months

Friday 11th May 2018
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Here's a fun choice I'm facing right now.

Got a 4x4 with 10 wheels (1 set of 4 + spare alloys, and another of steels).

On the front I have 2 Bridgestone dualers from '12 with about 4mm on them Good, not great, but good. On the back, 2 of the same, but with 2mm and dated... '06

The steels are a mish mash of large mud tyres that don't fit and '15 dated 'Ovations' with 5mm on them.

So, long story short, 12 year old near bald Bridgestones, or 3 year old Chinese trash? biggrin

They are all getting swapped out for new General Grabbers when I finally get around to refurbing my steels, but those Bridgestones on the back are scary. A Suzuki Jimny is not the funnest car to spin on a greasy roundabout.

Dave Hedgehog

14,584 posts

205 months

Friday 11th May 2018
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underwhelmist said:
Do premium brands make some bad tyres too? Years ago I bought a nearly new Accord with Pirelli P6000s. I didn’t know any better then but looking back I think they were crap, I replaced them with Bridgstones (I think) which were a vast improvement.

Were/are P6000s generally poorly regarded?
i regard the OEM contisportcontact 5 that audi and merc have fit to many RS / AMG models as a rubbish tyre, only lasts 9k miles (i got 25k on the replacement MPSS), super soft floppy side walls that make the steering even more vague, aqua planes like a mofo , tramlines in lane one of M Ways and when worn to around 4mm are like driving on hard blocks of oiled rubber when its below 5c

awful bloody things

MPSS and 4S instantly cure all of these issues

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

127 months

Friday 11th May 2018
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caelite said:
Here's a fun choice I'm facing right now.

Got a 4x4 with 10 wheels (1 set of 4 + spare alloys, and another of steels).

On the front I have 2 Bridgestone dualers from '12 with about 4mm on them Good, not great, but good. On the back, 2 of the same, but with 2mm and dated... '06

The steels are a mish mash of large mud tyres that don't fit and '15 dated 'Ovations' with 5mm on them.

So, long story short, 12 year old near bald Bridgestones, or 3 year old Chinese trash? biggrin

They are all getting swapped out for new General Grabbers when I finally get around to refurbing my steels, but those Bridgestones on the back are scary. A Suzuki Jimny is not the funnest car to spin on a greasy roundabout.
I think I'd be going with the Bridgestones on alloys, with the ancient ones on the front.

InitialDave

11,966 posts

120 months

Friday 11th May 2018
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caelite said:
Here's a fun choice I'm facing right now.
I'd try the better Bridgestones on the back and the worse ones on the front, see how that is.

captain_cynic

12,114 posts

96 months

Friday 11th May 2018
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Mr Tidy said:
I'm sure they do!

I had some Pirellis many years ago that were hopeless in the wet (but I can't remember which ones they were).
Just about anything with "eco" in the name is going to be crap. The compound used in tyres geared for economy is usually designed to reduce friction so results in less grip. This means your Prius gets a few extra MPG before it finds the ditch.

Mr Tidy said:
And I've got a BMW on Bridgestone Potenza run-flats (RE050 I think) that are dreadful! It'll be going onto decent non run-flats soon.
The Michelin Pilot Super Sports on my 240i are great for dry or wet. Not so good for snow, but it hardly snows here in Berkshire. Not the cheapest tyres though.