Uniroyal Rainsport 5
Discussion
Haven't seen a where to put new tyres argument for ages, so here's my tuppence.
If i was to fit two new tyres, and that's rare enough i can't remember when because i rotate and try to replace all 4 together, i fit them on the driven wheels, naturally seeing as 2 of our 3 cars are 4WD then renewal time is all 4.
Regarding generally people talk of water clearing capability hence wishing to have newer tyres on the back, but few people consider that at any decent speed the rear tyres are going to be going through less standing water than the fronts which have already cleared a path.
I'm also one of those who hates with a vengeance understeer, if i'm going to have a slide let it be oversteer every time.
One size answers don't fit all cars, nor all drivers, yes there's some drivers that wouldn't have a clue and need an approved basic method but some take driving a bit more seriously and have enough mechanical knowledge and/or experience they can make sound judgments for themselves.
If i was to fit two new tyres, and that's rare enough i can't remember when because i rotate and try to replace all 4 together, i fit them on the driven wheels, naturally seeing as 2 of our 3 cars are 4WD then renewal time is all 4.
Regarding generally people talk of water clearing capability hence wishing to have newer tyres on the back, but few people consider that at any decent speed the rear tyres are going to be going through less standing water than the fronts which have already cleared a path.
I'm also one of those who hates with a vengeance understeer, if i'm going to have a slide let it be oversteer every time.
One size answers don't fit all cars, nor all drivers, yes there's some drivers that wouldn't have a clue and need an approved basic method but some take driving a bit more seriously and have enough mechanical knowledge and/or experience they can make sound judgments for themselves.
This thread has drifted off the original topic about RS5's but if I can try and drag it back, I've a Lotus Excel with 5 year old Toyo T1R on the front and something ancient on the back which I intend to replace.
Was thinking either T1R to the rear too, or RS5's all round and bin the front ones.
Or something else.
RS5's were getting rave reviews on the TVR forums.
Car doesn't get used much in the rain, might do a hillclimb maybe possibly in the future, just for fun.
(car has 205 x 50 x 15 on the front and 215 x 50x 15 on the rear as standard but most drop the rears to 205 due to availability).
Was thinking either T1R to the rear too, or RS5's all round and bin the front ones.
Or something else.
RS5's were getting rave reviews on the TVR forums.
Car doesn't get used much in the rain, might do a hillclimb maybe possibly in the future, just for fun.
(car has 205 x 50 x 15 on the front and 215 x 50x 15 on the rear as standard but most drop the rears to 205 due to availability).
RS5 are only a mid-range tyre at best, they are always beaten in the wet by many other tyres on test, so why people rave about them I have no idea.
If it were me chosing tyres, I would be on one of the seller sites & tyrereviews.com comparing real (not Joe public) comparison test data & prices to find the best available in the sizes I require.
If it were me chosing tyres, I would be on one of the seller sites & tyrereviews.com comparing real (not Joe public) comparison test data & prices to find the best available in the sizes I require.
Smint said:
Haven't seen a where to put new tyres argument for ages, so here's my tuppence.
If i was to fit two new tyres, and that's rare enough i can't remember when because i rotate and try to replace all 4 together, i fit them on the driven wheels, naturally seeing as 2 of our 3 cars are 4WD then renewal time is all 4.
Regarding generally people talk of water clearing capability hence wishing to have newer tyres on the back, but few people consider that at any decent speed the rear tyres are going to be going through less standing water than the fronts which have already cleared a path.
I'm also one of those who hates with a vengeance understeer, if i'm going to have a slide let it be oversteer every time.
One size answers don't fit all cars, nor all drivers, yes there's some drivers that wouldn't have a clue and need an approved basic method but some take driving a bit more seriously and have enough mechanical knowledge and/or experience they can make sound judgments for themselves.
They also have a lot less weight on the rear so less pressing the tyre into the roadIf i was to fit two new tyres, and that's rare enough i can't remember when because i rotate and try to replace all 4 together, i fit them on the driven wheels, naturally seeing as 2 of our 3 cars are 4WD then renewal time is all 4.
Regarding generally people talk of water clearing capability hence wishing to have newer tyres on the back, but few people consider that at any decent speed the rear tyres are going to be going through less standing water than the fronts which have already cleared a path.
I'm also one of those who hates with a vengeance understeer, if i'm going to have a slide let it be oversteer every time.
One size answers don't fit all cars, nor all drivers, yes there's some drivers that wouldn't have a clue and need an approved basic method but some take driving a bit more seriously and have enough mechanical knowledge and/or experience they can make sound judgments for themselves.
There are rguments to both sides
E-bmw said:
RS5 are only a mid-range tyre at best, they are always beaten in the wet by many other tyres on test, so why people rave about them I have no idea.
If it were me chosing tyres, I would be on one of the seller sites & tyrereviews.com comparing real (not Joe public) comparison test data & prices to find the best available in the sizes I require.
I agree. People seem to get hung up on the name and think "Rainsport" are the ultimate in the wet.If it were me chosing tyres, I would be on one of the seller sites & tyrereviews.com comparing real (not Joe public) comparison test data & prices to find the best available in the sizes I require.
I've only ever had Uniroyals once on a car and I thought they were rubbish (grip and wear).
The best mid range tyre currently, taking everything into account, appears to be the Goodyear Efficient Grip Performance 2.
Maximus Decimus Meridius said:
The best mid range tyre currently, taking everything into account, appears to be the Goodyear Efficient Grip Performance 2.
As certain top-of-the-range tyres are only available in thinner profile/wider ratio/larger diameter tyres if you have a small hatch like Mrs E they are basically the best tyres available in the size.I would call them a premium tyre in certain sizes.
E-bmw said:
Maximus Decimus Meridius said:
The best mid range tyre currently, taking everything into account, appears to be the Goodyear Efficient Grip Performance 2.
As certain top-of-the-range tyres are only available in thinner profile/wider ratio/larger diameter tyres if you have a small hatch like Mrs E they are basically the best tyres available in the size.I would call them a premium tyre in certain sizes.
Pica-Pica said:
E-bmw said:
Maximus Decimus Meridius said:
The best mid range tyre currently, taking everything into account, appears to be the Goodyear Efficient Grip Performance 2.
As certain top-of-the-range tyres are only available in thinner profile/wider ratio/larger diameter tyres if you have a small hatch like Mrs E they are basically the best tyres available in the size.I would call them a premium tyre in certain sizes.
Big fan of the RainSport 5s here
Have them on the wife's Jazz; FIL had them on his F10 530D to replace Goodyear RFTs and they transformed the ride in comfort, steering, grip and smoothness
My pal has run them on his E91 335D and only swapped from them to some new Apex alloys and he went with the Vredestein Ultrac Vorti's instead as the RainSport 5s didn't come in the wider sizes he wanted to run etc
They're a superb midrange tyre and suit the UK climate very well...
Tyres are always a very person choice; some will find a specific tyre/brand to be superb, others will say they're s
t...
A lot of folk will also say a tyre is either st or great without ever running them themselves, through hearsay and reading what others have said on them etc
It's all about reading up on tyres; looking at genuine 'real world' reviews, IMO not tyres tested on a car on a track etc and take the average of what's read and then make your own mind up etc
Have them on the wife's Jazz; FIL had them on his F10 530D to replace Goodyear RFTs and they transformed the ride in comfort, steering, grip and smoothness
My pal has run them on his E91 335D and only swapped from them to some new Apex alloys and he went with the Vredestein Ultrac Vorti's instead as the RainSport 5s didn't come in the wider sizes he wanted to run etc
They're a superb midrange tyre and suit the UK climate very well...
Tyres are always a very person choice; some will find a specific tyre/brand to be superb, others will say they're s
t...A lot of folk will also say a tyre is either s
t or great without ever running them themselves, through hearsay and reading what others have said on them etcIt's all about reading up on tyres; looking at genuine 'real world' reviews, IMO not tyres tested on a car on a track etc and take the average of what's read and then make your own mind up etc
Tony1963 said:
E-bmw said:
I never said it wasn't safe, I said it is best to have the better/newer tyres on the front.
And you’re wrong. Best to put the new set on the REAR as your average driver will react better to improved grip from the rear causing the car to 'weathercock' especially on rain soaked roads.
Bit of a thread revival for this one, but having just had my 4th purchase of rainsports today (first two were 3s, the last two were the 5s) I'm very impressed once again.
I really rated the 3s, although they were a bit squidgy, running 3 or 4 psi above book pressures for your car (in my case a 2002 Volvo V40 t4) stiffened the sidewall feel a bit, but it still ate the edges a little, and I was down to 3mm on the front by about 12k, some front to back rotation got a touch over 20k out of the four so not bad I didn't think.
Then I ended up with the 5s on the front and some vredsteins on the back, great combo, although I only got about 2k into those before the car was so f--ked (235k on the clock) that it ended up being scrapped.
I've now recently bought a 56 plate 530d m sport with the 172m staggered 19 inch spiders, which wears almost new nexen su1 nfera on the back which aren't at all bad, and some absolute dross minnell something or others on the front, mid 2020 date stamped and perished as hell already, so those off and rainsport 5s went on today.
They felt very harsh for the first few miles, until I realised the tyre shop had put 39 psi in them, so dropped them to the correct 33, and better, then another 20 or so miles on them and yeah, they've bedded in lovely, particularly noticeable given that it rained tonight, after all this heat we all know that the end result is really greasy roads, I actually saw a girl in a Corsa get a 4 wheel slide on the go on a roundabout just as the rain started, but this BM was unshakeable, they just dig in and fking grip, even with the TC active and a little wiggle out of roundabouts, at no point did the front ever move, understeer is very easy to provoke on a car this heavy normally, but not with uniroyals on there.
People seem to say that it's all internet hype, but it's important to note that these are the tyres of choice for short oval racing for a good reason, they just work.
I really rated the 3s, although they were a bit squidgy, running 3 or 4 psi above book pressures for your car (in my case a 2002 Volvo V40 t4) stiffened the sidewall feel a bit, but it still ate the edges a little, and I was down to 3mm on the front by about 12k, some front to back rotation got a touch over 20k out of the four so not bad I didn't think.
Then I ended up with the 5s on the front and some vredsteins on the back, great combo, although I only got about 2k into those before the car was so f--ked (235k on the clock) that it ended up being scrapped.
I've now recently bought a 56 plate 530d m sport with the 172m staggered 19 inch spiders, which wears almost new nexen su1 nfera on the back which aren't at all bad, and some absolute dross minnell something or others on the front, mid 2020 date stamped and perished as hell already, so those off and rainsport 5s went on today.
They felt very harsh for the first few miles, until I realised the tyre shop had put 39 psi in them, so dropped them to the correct 33, and better, then another 20 or so miles on them and yeah, they've bedded in lovely, particularly noticeable given that it rained tonight, after all this heat we all know that the end result is really greasy roads, I actually saw a girl in a Corsa get a 4 wheel slide on the go on a roundabout just as the rain started, but this BM was unshakeable, they just dig in and f
king grip, even with the TC active and a little wiggle out of roundabouts, at no point did the front ever move, understeer is very easy to provoke on a car this heavy normally, but not with uniroyals on there.People seem to say that it's all internet hype, but it's important to note that these are the tyres of choice for short oval racing for a good reason, they just work.
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