Cross Climate 2

[CarlosFandango11]

carboy0 said:

I have gone for 4 x CC2s on the car, and am very pleased with their road performance, but only have room in the boot for one spare. As the tyres are single direction tyres I don’t know what to fit on the spare wheel. Do I;

1. Fit a CC2 to the spare and hope that it has the right orientation (I.e. nearside or offside) if I have a puncture. Which begs the question can I run a CC2 ‘backwards’ if the spare’s orientation is for the other side?

2. Fit a different unidirectional tyre to the spare, as per a lot of cars with space saver spares?

All thoughts considered.

I’m about to be in the same position.

I was thinking about fitting a different all season asymmetrical to the spare, possible one of the Vredestein Quatrac versions.

[Sheepshanks]

carboy0 said:

1. Fit a CC2 to the spare and hope that it has the right orientation (I.e. nearside or offside) if I have a puncture. Which begs the question can I run a CC2 ‘backwards’ if the spare’s orientation is for the other side?

Might be worth asking Michelin - https://www.michelin.co.uk/assistance . Obviously it's not ideal but you often hear of people having directional tyres on the wrong way.

I would think it's acceptable in an emergency but drive accordingly, sort it out ASAP etc etc. It's an MOT fail.

[CarlosFandango11]

Sheepshanks said:

carboy0 said:

1. Fit a CC2 to the spare and hope that it has the right orientation (I.e. nearside or offside) if I have a puncture. Which begs the question can I run a CC2 ‘backwards’ if the spare’s orientation is for the other side?

Might be worth asking Michelin - https://www.michelin.co.uk/assistance . Obviously it's not ideal but you often hear of people having directional tyres on the wrong way.

I would think it's acceptable in an emergency but drive accordingly, sort it out ASAP etc etc. It's an MOT fail.

I decided to ask Michelin what spare tyre I should have if I have 4 CCs on my car. I got an email response a day later stating that another "CC as well in case you need to use the spare one as we always recommend to have the same kind of tyre on the same axle".

I then asked a more specific question, something along the lines of if I have 4 CCs on my car, which are directional tyres, what spare tyre should I have so that I can replace a wheel on both sides of my car. This was a week ago, and they haven't responded yet.

[mmm-five]

CarlosFandango11 said:

I decided to ask Michelin what spare tyre I should have if I have 4 CCs on my car. I got an email response a day later stating that another "CC as well in case you need to use the spare one as we always recommend to have the same kind of tyre on the same axle".

I then asked a more specific question, something along the lines of if I have 4 CCs on my car, which are directional tyres, what spare tyre should I have so that I can replace a wheel on both sides of my car. This was a week ago, and they haven't responded yet.

Are you planning on using the spare as an 'emergency' tyre to get you off a major road, and possibly home at a sensible speed...or do you just want to swap the wheel and drive as you would normally and forget about the now useless wheel you've taken off?

If the former, then the 'wrong' direction won't matter as you'll be going slowly for just a few miles - it would probably make less difference to the grip/performance than a space-saver that is half the width of the normal tyres (and in my dad's car's case, not even the same diameter as the other 3).

If the latter, buy 4 spares fitted in opposite directions just in case you get 3 more flats during your escapades

[CarlosFandango11]

mmm-five said:

If the latter, buy 4 spares fitted in opposite directions just in case you get 3 more flats during your escapades

What's with the poor attitude?

[mmm-five]

CarlosFandango11 said:

What's with the poor attitude?

Time of the month!

[stevieturbo]

CarlosFandango11 said:

What's with the poor attitude?

Attitude ? it's funny.

[carboy0]

Thanks for the responses, I would use the spare as a ‘get you home’ tyre. As it’s a well known fact that you only get punctures when tyre repair stations are closed.

I’m thinking of a fifth CC2, if the spare is for the ‘right’ side then happy days, if it’s for the ‘wrong’ side then limit speed to say 50mph, like the stickers say on space saver tyres.

Good idea to carry 4 four spares ‘just in case’, but I don’t have the space - as per my original post.

[mmm-five]

carboy0 said:

Thanks for the responses, I would use the spare as a ‘get you home’ tyre. As it’s a well known fact that you only get punctures when tyre repair stations are closed.

I’m thinking of a fifth CC2, if the spare is for the ‘right’ side then happy days, if it’s for the ‘wrong’ side then limit speed to say 50mph, like the stickers say on space saver tyres.

Good idea to carry 4 four spares ‘just in case’, but I don’t have the space - as per my original post.

I used to carry 4 spares when I did a lot more track days, but I realised on one event that I'd 'used up' all 8 - so picked the best 4 (the ones with no cords showing or causing sparks).

Could probably have carried two more at a pinch, but not sure my passenger would have appreciated a 18" M5 wheel & tyre on their lap for the 200 mile drive home.

[Nismex]

I fitted new CC2s to my Fiesta in mid October, 205/45/17 88V XL. They come with 7mm tread depth as I measured them on the day.

I’ve put 1300 miles on them and the fronts are down to 6.4mm and the rears 6.6. And I drive a basic Fiesta, I drive in Eco mode a lot of the time and those miles have simply been a 70 mile round trip commute to work. A /B roads, Motorway and some City driving.

I’ll keep an eye on the wear over the winter, but quite surprised at how quickly they seem to have worn. It’s possible the warm October we had has accelerated the wear, and if/when we get a colder spell, perhaps the wear will lessen and even out?

[Blib]

After reading as many reviews as I could find I recently fitted CC2s to our dailies- a 2019 Panda Cross and a 2015 Subaru Forester.

It's too early to judge how good they are as the weather's been pretty mild so far. However, our local roads are subject to flooding. Both cars have coped very well with those conditions.

[HustleRussell]

SAS Tom said:

fatboy b said:

We found them to aquaplane in the rain and cornering on damp roads was very unpredictable. For the amount of the year that summers aren’t great, I’d rather stick with summers. That said, MPS4S on my XFR-S we’re actually great all year round. I’ll let you know how the F-Type does as I’ve ditched the stock p-zeros for MPS4S too.

I also found them bad for aquaplaning. I always felt wet grip was good but if you hit any sort of standing water they were awful and very unnerving. Test results show they aren’t so good with aquaplaning compared with others too. I wouldn’t have another set just based off that and went with Goodyear Vector 4 seasons this time round.

...and the Goodyears are..?

[Pica-Pica]

CarlosFandango11 said:

carboy0 said:

I have gone for 4 x CC2s on the car, and am very pleased with their road performance, but only have room in the boot for one spare. As the tyres are single direction tyres I don’t know what to fit on the spare wheel. Do I;

1. Fit a CC2 to the spare and hope that it has the right orientation (I.e. nearside or offside) if I have a puncture. Which begs the question can I run a CC2 ‘backwards’ if the spare’s orientation is for the other side?

2. Fit a different unidirectional tyre to the spare, as per a lot of cars with space saver spares?

All thoughts considered.

I’m about to be in the same position.

I was thinking about fitting a different all season asymmetrical to the spare, possible one of the Vredestein Quatrac versions.

Yes. An asymmetric pattern all-season may be the best option, not many about though. That is why we used the Vredestein Quatrac 5, but now discontinued, I believe.

[SAS Tom]

HustleRussell said:

SAS Tom said:

fatboy b said:

We found them to aquaplane in the rain and cornering on damp roads was very unpredictable. For the amount of the year that summers aren’t great, I’d rather stick with summers. That said, MPS4S on my XFR-S we’re actually great all year round. I’ll let you know how the F-Type does as I’ve ditched the stock p-zeros for MPS4S too.

I also found them bad for aquaplaning. I always felt wet grip was good but if you hit any sort of standing water they were awful and very unnerving. Test results show they aren’t so good with aquaplaning compared with others too. I wouldn’t have another set just based off that and went with Goodyear Vector 4 seasons this time round.

...and the Goodyears are..?

So far so good. No issues at all.

[budgie smuggler]

SAS Tom said:

So far so good. No issues at all.

Sorry, slightly off-topic but do the Vector 4 seasons have the rim protection band like the F1 does?

[SAS Tom]

budgie smuggler said:

SAS Tom said:

So far so good. No issues at all.

Sorry, slightly off-topic but do the Vector 4 seasons have the rim protection band like the F1 does?

Mine don’t but it’s suv size 235/55R18. I would have thought lower profile sizes would but you’d have to check.

I personally prefer the Vector 4 seasons. Feel as good as the cross climate in most areas but better in the wet.

[I-A]

SAS Tom said:

Mine don’t but it’s suv size 235/55R18. I would have thought lower profile sizes would but you’d have to check.

I personally prefer the Vector 4 seasons. Feel as good as the cross climate in most areas but better in the wet.

It appears that these two are the leaders with regards to all season tyres.

I'll be fitting the CC2s to our family car after the Winter (already had Winter tyres).

https://toptirereview.com/goodyear-vector-4seasons...

[Salted_Peanut]

Do you think we’ll see a new CrossClimate 3 launched this year?