Careless tyre fitter, thoughts?

[InitialDave]

donkmeister said:

vladcjelli said:

Last Wednesday,
I gave you my car
The very next day,
Broke the under tray

Torque me up,
Before you go-go,
Don't jump on the breaker bar like a pogo.

You're doing fine work, gentlemen, thank you for your efforts.

[Chamon_Lee]

dave_s13 said:

Too late...they're on now. No discernible difference from the Bridgestones that they replaced. Honestly Chaps, get a bit of a grip.

I'm happy to eat my words if it all goes to st and it was landsails fault. Until then...chill the fuxn out!

And Halfords didn't fux my car or wheels up.

And I really can't be arsed selling/buying wheels...I'd imagine the market for 19" ford galaxy/smax wheels is pretty small.

LOL such a guy thing to do. I think my tyres are fecking brilliant, I say they are brilliant so they are brilliant and im going to put them on. To be fair even if you had a crash you'd still say they were brilliant. lol! the tests don't lie and my personal experience backs them up.

I don't take the risk of having bad tyres on and they are cheap for a reason. Back in the day I bought a 2 cars that had cheap tyres on and especially in bad/cold weather it feels like your driving around on lego. I took them off after a month or so and I just don't buy a car now that has cheap tyres on.

Happy motoring

[E36Ross]

dave_s13 said:

Get a bit of a grip.

I'm happy to eat my words if it all goes to st and it was landsails fault. Until then...chill the fuxn out!

And I really can't be arsed selling/buying wheels...I'd imagine the market for 19" ford galaxy/smax wheels is pretty small.

Unintended pun?

Go brake hard on a wet surface and see what happens, they'll be fine 99.9% of the time but there's always that one time when you need to stand on the brakes or make a sudden move.

As for the market on them, You'd 100% sell them to some lad wanting them for his Focus and you could replace with a suitable set of 17" and decent tyres.

[832ark]

dave_s13 said:

Too late...they're on now. No discernible difference from the Bridgestones that they replaced. Honestly Chaps, get a bit of a grip.

I'm happy to eat my words if it all goes to st and it was landsails fault. Until then...chill the fuxn out!

And Halfords didn't fux my car or wheels up.

And I really can't be arsed selling/buying wheels...I'd imagine the market for 19" ford galaxy/smax wheels is pretty small.

Please come back in 6-8k miles and let us know how they’re performing in the wet.

[Carlososos]

832ark said:

dave_s13 said:

Too late...they're on now. No discernible difference from the Bridgestones that they replaced. Honestly Chaps, get a bit of a grip.

I'm happy to eat my words if it all goes to st and it was landsails fault. Until then...chill the fuxn out!

And Halfords didn't fux my car or wheels up.

And I really can't be arsed selling/buying wheels...I'd imagine the market for 19" ford galaxy/smax wheels is pretty small.

Please come back in 6-8k miles and let us know how they’re performing in the wet.

According to the consensus on here he has no chance of that as everyone is going to be looking up at a bright white light. Not just him but all the other unfortunate thousands of road users who all have Michelins fitted that he has taken with him in one big ball of flames that has been irrefutably caused by fitting budget make tyres. Why didn’t you just think man, why were you so selfish as to fit tyres at the budget end of the market, if only you knew the consequences of doing something so silly. Why man why!!!! Won’t someone please for the love of god think of the children and make Michelin and Pirelli mandatory and not just the cheap Goodyears either. It has to be top of the range high spec. Oh the humanity.

[Slow]

Carlososos said:

832ark said:

dave_s13 said:

Too late...they're on now. No discernible difference from the Bridgestones that they replaced. Honestly Chaps, get a bit of a grip.

I'm happy to eat my words if it all goes to st and it was landsails fault. Until then...chill the fuxn out!

And Halfords didn't fux my car or wheels up.

And I really can't be arsed selling/buying wheels...I'd imagine the market for 19" ford galaxy/smax wheels is pretty small.

Please come back in 6-8k miles and let us know how they’re performing in the wet.

According to the consensus on here he has no chance of that as everyone is going to be looking up at a bright white light. Not just him but all the other unfortunate thousands of road users who all have Michelins fitted that he has taken with him in one big ball of flames that has been irrefutably caused by fitting budget make tyres. Why didn’t you just think man, why were you so selfish as to fit tyres at the budget end of the market, if only you knew the consequences of doing something so silly. Why man why!!!! Won’t someone please for the love of god think of the children and make Michelin and Pirelli mandatory and not just the cheap Goodyears either. It has to be top of the range high spec. Oh the humanity.

Ive fitted 20" tyres that cost under £100 each before. Got 25k out of the set in a Range Rover so heavy on tyres generally.

Was genuinly surprised how good even the bargain bucket tyres are these days. Taken chinese winters to an indicated 155 on a uhm private road and I didnt catch fire and die either.

All those poor children that got ruined by my tyres!

[anonymous-user]

As much as some might want to chortle that they didn't get instantly killed by the likes of linglongs and landfail tyres, the fact still remains that by fitting cheap dog st tyres you make your car quite drastically worse than it could be by just about every single imaginable metric conceivable; braking distance, road noise, feedback economy, acceleration, turning, etc compared to a premium or more often than not, merely a mid range alternative. This performance deficit then becomes even greater when the road becomes wet/damp.

What then gets me is that nobody comes back and says "You know, they are a bit naff but I'm hard up and couldn't find the extra £150 for a mid range set". Its always "They're better than I expected" or "They are nearly as good as the (heavily worn) <insert premium brand> they replaced". It in no way sounds like buyers remorse .

Going the other way, I've binned off a couple of sets of nearly new budget rubber that have come on a couple of cars I've had come through and the difference between a budget and even a mid range like a hankook is absolutely night and day especially in the wet, were most budget tyres become comically bad at a time where you want safety and predictability the most.

[Countdown]

Joey Deacon said:

I am bit undecided on cheap tyres, I bought a set of Avons last time and although they felt fine they all have severe cracking around the circumference of the tyre after 3 years. They were not really budget, but I could have got Bridgestone, UniRoyal or Kumho for the same price.

In a 205/55/16 which is a very common tyre size, a Bridgestone is 67.99, and the cheapest tyre is a Waterfall at 54.50

Not really worth it to save 13.49 a tyre.

Just had a quick google - Pirelli PZero Rosso in that size are £129.99....surely anybody who doesn't buy the most expensive brand of tyre is a crazy loon who is going to spin off the road in a fiery fireball... After all it's only £280 more than 4 x Waterfall tyres. Isn't a person's family worth more than £280......

There's a range of tyres with varying abilities at different prices. You use your judgement/experience to buy the ones that are suitable for the way you drive.

[alangla]

Countdown said:

Just had a quick google - Pirelli PZero Rosso in that size are 129.99....surely anybody who doesn't buy the most expensive brand of tyre is a crazy loon who is going to spin off the road in a fiery fireball... After all it's only 280 more than 4 x Waterfall tyres. Isn't a person's family worth more than 280......

There's a range of tyres with varying abilities at different prices. You use your judgement/experience to buy the ones that are suitable for the way you drive.

Not directly aimed at you but a more general question, is it reasonable, if you’re trying to be objective in your budget buy, to look at the wet grip rating and buy on that? Taking the 16 inch tyre above from Camskill, the Waterfall (£37 reduced from £45) is showing as a C for wet grip, the cheapest A rated tyres are the Autogreen Sportchaser or the Nokian Wetproof, both about £45. Interestingly, the Toyo Proxes, which I always thought was well regarded, is slightly cheaper but only B rated. Cheapest biggish brand A rated tyre is the Firestone Roadhawk for £47.
If you’re on a budget, which do you go for?

[anonymous-user]

Carlososos said:

832ark said:

dave_s13 said:

Too late...they're on now. No discernible difference from the Bridgestones that they replaced. Honestly Chaps, get a bit of a grip.

I'm happy to eat my words if it all goes to st and it was landsails fault. Until then...chill the fuxn out!

And Halfords didn't fux my car or wheels up.

And I really can't be arsed selling/buying wheels...I'd imagine the market for 19" ford galaxy/smax wheels is pretty small.

Please come back in 6-8k miles and let us know how they’re performing in the wet.

According to the consensus on here he has no chance of that as everyone is going to be looking up at a bright white light. Not just him but all the other unfortunate thousands of road users who all have Michelins fitted that he has taken with him in one big ball of flames that has been irrefutably caused by fitting budget make tyres. Why didn’t you just think man, why were you so selfish as to fit tyres at the budget end of the market, if only you knew the consequences of doing something so silly. Why man why!!!! Won’t someone please for the love of god think of the children and make Michelin and Pirelli mandatory and not just the cheap Goodyears either. It has to be top of the range high spec. Oh the humanity.

People including myself have advised that cheap tyres have downsides, for 99% of driving it is very unlikely to make any difference but for the 1% of time driving when things go badly wrong it can make that difference that avoids an accident or injury.

In the meantime you carry on seeing the cost of everything and the value of nothing.

[Carlososos]

gottans said:

Carlososos said:

832ark said:

dave_s13 said:

Too late...they're on now. No discernible difference from the Bridgestones that they replaced. Honestly Chaps, get a bit of a grip.

I'm happy to eat my words if it all goes to st and it was landsails fault. Until then...chill the fuxn out!

And Halfords didn't fux my car or wheels up.

And I really can't be arsed selling/buying wheels...I'd imagine the market for 19" ford galaxy/smax wheels is pretty small.

Please come back in 6-8k miles and let us know how they’re performing in the wet.

According to the consensus on here he has no chance of that as everyone is going to be looking up at a bright white light. Not just him but all the other unfortunate thousands of road users who all have Michelins fitted that he has taken with him in one big ball of flames that has been irrefutably caused by fitting budget make tyres. Why didn’t you just think man, why were you so selfish as to fit tyres at the budget end of the market, if only you knew the consequences of doing something so silly. Why man why!!!! Won’t someone please for the love of god think of the children and make Michelin and Pirelli mandatory and not just the cheap Goodyears either. It has to be top of the range high spec. Oh the humanity.

People including myself have advised that cheap tyres have downsides, for 99% of driving it is very unlikely to make any difference but for the 1% of time driving when things go badly wrong it can make that difference that avoids an accident or injury.

In the meantime you carry on seeing the cost of everything and the value of nothing.

Your right every 100th time I go out in the car I have a smash because the tyres just couldn’t cope. Suppose I need to fit some flash rubber to make it all stop. Maybe if I put a big brake kit on as well that’ll make it stop quicker. Hold on if I fit some coilovers I’ll be able to make fast changes of direction and avoid certain death. All those things should be mandatory so we can all be safe as can be. Lots and lots of value in all that. Maybe I’ll even put on some flame proof y fronts, you know just in case. Value galore.

[dave_s13]

I'd reply...but I'm dead.

[CarCrazyDad]

alangla said:

Not directly aimed at you but a more general question, is it reasonable, if you’re trying to be objective in your budget buy, to look at the wet grip rating and buy on that? Taking the 16 inch tyre above from Camskill, the Waterfall ( 37 reduced from 45) is showing as a C for wet grip, the cheapest A rated tyres are the Autogreen Sportchaser or the Nokian Wetproof, both about 45. Interestingly, the Toyo Proxes, which I always thought was well regarded, is slightly cheaper but only B rated. Cheapest biggish brand A rated tyre is the Firestone Roadhawk for 47.
If you’re on a budget, which do you go for?

From my understanding, the Tyre wet ratings are not standardised and are not a comparison of performance.

That's why it's important to check sites like Tyre Reviews.

Many A or B rated tyres from budget brands perform significantly worse.

[Davie]

Joey Deacon said:

It reminds me of someone I work with who has a company car and needed new wiper blades. He took the car to Halfords and the person changing the wiper blade let the arm ping back and smash the screen.

Seriously, how hard is it?

Mistakes happen. I seriously doubt the person who made the error purposely flicks the arm down on every car they fit blades to for the sheer crack, literally. Perhaps new and inexperienced, perhaps caught out by an arm that looked like it'd stay up but was actually on the tipping point and a slight passing tap knocked it down. I'm sure the damage was put right, the person was dealt with and either has learned from their mistake or no longer fits wiper blades for Halfords. How hard is it? Well, do it yourself in future and find out?

[KAgantua]

InitialDave said:

donkmeister said:

vladcjelli said:

Last Wednesday,
I gave you my car
The very next day,
Broke the under tray

Torque me up,
Before you go-go,
Don't jump on the breaker bar like a pogo.

You're doing fine work, gentlemen, thank you for your efforts.

posts of the year

[dave_s13]

832ark said:

dave_s13 said:

Too late...they're on now. No discernible difference from the Bridgestones that they replaced. Honestly Chaps, get a bit of a grip.

I'm happy to eat my words if it all goes to st and it was landsails fault. Until then...chill the fuxn out!

And Halfords didn't fux my car or wheels up.

And I really can't be arsed selling/buying wheels...I'd imagine the market for 19" ford galaxy/smax wheels is pretty small.

Please come back in 6-8k miles and let us know how they’re performing in the wet.

Hello!

Update - still alive.

The Landsails have performed perfectly well and covered 15k miles. The only issue being the front wear is/was uneven as fek, really heavy inside wear, buts loads left over the rest of the tread; enough to prompt an MOT advisory last month. So I swapped them front to back to eek out a bit more but got a slow puncture on one of them last week. The fronts (used to be on the rear) have lots of tread left.

Anyway took that to a tyre place today to see if repairable and it wasn't, so stuck a part-worn conti on for £45 and i'll be replacing both with something new in a couple of weeks.

I'm not sure if I'd get Landsails again, not because there was anything wrong with them, I just fancy a change.

Oh and you'll shudder at this, the other car needed a pair of fronts and I put some Davantis on! And yes, not dead, and yes i've driven the absolute tits off the thing (as much as you can drive the tits off a nissan leaf) and there is no discernable different between the Davantis and the bridgestones that were on it.