Tyre Rotation

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Pica-Pica

13,839 posts

85 months

Thursday 30th June 2022
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Scrump said:
The Peugeot 107 I bought for my daughter to learn to drive came with landsail tyres.
Plenty of tread on them but they are diabolical in the wet.
In NW Wales, good wet performance is the No. 1 criteria !

Smint

1,725 posts

36 months

Thursday 30th June 2022
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Pica-Pica said:
In NW Wales, good wet performance is the No. 1 criteria !
Its my no1 criteria anywhere in Britain.


E-bmw

9,240 posts

153 months

Thursday 30th June 2022
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Smint said:
Pica-Pica said:
In NW Wales, good wet performance is the No. 1 criteria !
Its my no1 criteria anywhere in Britain.
I won't even consider fitting tyres that aren't A wet weather performance combined with good aquaplaning resistance & multiple top 5 places in tyrereviews.com "all tests" tab.

After all they are the only thing keeping you on the black stuff.

MakaveliX

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545 posts

30 months

Thursday 30th June 2022
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Scrump said:
The Peugeot 107 I bought for my daughter to learn to drive came with landsail tyres.
Plenty of tread on them but they are diabolical in the wet.
Been fine for me. Not lost any traction round corners, occasional slight wheel spin when turning out of junctions from a stand still though. Probably normal for a car without traction control.

Smint

1,725 posts

36 months

Thursday 30th June 2022
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MakaveliX said:
Been fine for me. Not lost any traction round corners, occasional slight wheel spin when turning out of junctions from a stand still though. Probably normal for a car without traction control.
Replace them with a set of very sensibly priced Uniroyals/Vredesteins or similar, and it'll be a different car entirely.

I mention Vredestein purely because of their long running Quatrac winter rated all season tyres, which have seen service on several family cars over the years, wheelspin virtually unheard of, they also sell normal tyres such as the Sportrac/Ultrac range, again very good products.
Uniroyals whilst not a long wearing tyre have always been known as the rain tyre, and with good reason, usually bargain prices too.

Whilst i can understand you wishing to run the Landsails out, i'd be binning them pronto.


MakaveliX

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545 posts

30 months

Thursday 30th June 2022
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Smint said:
Replace them with a set of very sensibly priced Uniroyals/Vredesteins or similar, and it'll be a different car entirely.

I mention Vredestein purely because of their long running Quatrac winter rated all season tyres, which have seen service on several family cars over the years, wheelspin virtually unheard of, they also sell normal tyres such as the Sportrac/Ultrac range, again very good products.
Uniroyals whilst not a long wearing tyre have always been known as the rain tyre, and with good reason, usually bargain prices too.

Whilst i can understand you wishing to run the Landsails out, i'd be binning them pronto.
Thanks for the info.

I'll hopefully be selling the car end of the year anyway so not looking to invest any more money in the car. Plenty of tread left and never had a problem even when driving enthusiastically spin

Uniroyals £400 for a set of 4 on BlackCircles. I'd consider it when I get my new car or on anything faster than a Yaris which I currently have biggrin

Edited by MakaveliX on Thursday 30th June 17:57

E-bmw

9,240 posts

153 months

Friday 1st July 2022
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Smint said:
Uniroyals whilst not a long wearing tyre have always been known as the rain tyre, and with good reason, usually bargain prices too.
I have never been a fan, in fact in pretty much every tyre test they are comprehensively beaten in the wet, so not really sure where they get that accolade from.

Smint

1,725 posts

36 months

Friday 1st July 2022
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E-bmw said:
I have never been a fan, in fact in pretty much every tyre test they are comprehensively beaten in the wet, so not really sure where they get that accolade from.
Tests are good and are worth seeking out, but in practice every car i've driven on Uniroyals over many years has had reliable competent wet grip, not bothered if they get beaten by the usual brands in tests, my experiences of the usually trumpeted heavily advertised makes in real everyday motoring rather than on a test track, notably sometimes at tyre maker's proving grounds, has often been disappointing regarding ride quality noise and wet grip.

No they don't last as long as some, probably that soft compound which might go some way to explain why in winter conditions if i had no winter rated rubber (i do, full winter set of tyres/wheels for one and all seasons on another) i'd rather be on Uniroyals than almost any other summer tyre, they also offer a compliant quiet ride.

Pica-Pica

13,839 posts

85 months

Friday 1st July 2022
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I have Goodyear EfficientGrips on my 335d x-drive. Quiet and comfortable, even as a runflat. Our Fabia has Vredestein Quatrac 5, excellent tyres, never really been tested in the snow or ice, to be honest, they are there ‘just in case’.

texaxile

3,294 posts

151 months

Saturday 2nd July 2022
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Scrump said:
The Peugeot 107 I bought for my daughter to learn to drive came with landsail tyres.
Plenty of tread on them but they are diabolical in the wet.
similar thing here, my daughters i10 came with landsails "4 brand new tyres" the dealer said. While they're ok for town driving and she only does 3k miles a year and the car has a black box fitted, the grip levels on damp roads are abysmal.

Tyres have gone up along with everything else recently, I'll probably get these changed before they're down to 4mm, for the sake of a couple of hundred quid for a set of Avons from Blackcircles.

Panamax

4,075 posts

35 months

Saturday 2nd July 2022
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E-bmw said:
Smint said:
Pica-Pica said:
In NW Wales, good wet performance is the No. 1 criteria !
Its my no1 criteria anywhere in Britain.
I won't even consider fitting tyres that aren't A wet weather performance combined with good aquaplaning resistance & multiple top 5 places in tyrereviews.com "all tests" tab. After all they are the only thing keeping you on the black stuff.
Yes, agreed.

How fast you can drive on a dry road is typically limited by visibility, not grip..
How fast you can drive on a wet road is typically limited by grip, not visibility.

cuprabob

14,683 posts

215 months

Saturday 2nd July 2022
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texaxile said:
similar thing here, my daughters i10 came with landsails "4 brand new tyres" the dealer said. While they're ok for town driving and she only does 3k miles a year and the car has a black box fitted, the grip levels on damp roads are abysmal.

Tyres have gone up along with everything else recently, I'll probably get these changed before they're down to 4mm, for the sake of a couple of hundred quid for a set of Avons from Blackcircles.
Just be aware that many people have reported cracking on Avon tyres after relatively short time periods therefore you might want to consider that when thinking about putting them on a car doing relatively low miles.

texaxile

3,294 posts

151 months

Sunday 3rd July 2022
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cuprabob said:
Just be aware that many people have reported cracking on Avon tyres after relatively short time periods therefore you might want to consider that when thinking about putting them on a car doing relatively low miles.
Oh crap, I never knew that mate, thanks for the heads up.I won’t use Avons then! - luckily as they’re a small tyre the mid branded stuff isn’t mega expensive so a few other brands to choose from. wink