All Season Tyres

[stevieturbo]

journeymanpro said:

Rubbish

Yes, you are spouting rubbish. Don't be an idiot and give dangerous advice.

[ninjag]

If only putting All Seasons on the front then be mindful of the rears losing traction sooner and unlike the fronts it can happen with little warning.

I've got Hankook Kinergy 4S2 all round and they grip well. Not had a chance to properly test them in ice or snow though.

[MF35]

stevieturbo said:

journeymanpro said:

Rubbish

Yes, you are spouting rubbish. Don't be an idiot and give dangerous advice.

Exactly.

[tr7v8]

journeymanpro said:

stevieturbo said:

You must have all 4 wheels of a similar tyre.

Do not change one axle only to all season or winter. It must be all 4 tyres

Rubbish

No its not, most 4 x 4 cars need all 4 tyres to be similar rolling radius. My Outlander PHEV specifically states this. If you don't you get all sort of weird issues. My Cayenne & the Grand Cherokee before it needed the same.

[journeymanpro]

tr7v8 said:

No its not, most 4 x 4 cars need all 4 tyres to be similar rolling radius. My Outlander PHEV specifically states this. If you don't you get all sort of weird issues. My Cayenne & the Grand Cherokee before it needed the same.

What's that got to do with having all seasons on one axle and not the other?

[Pica-Pica]

tr7v8 said:

journeymanpro said:

stevieturbo said:

You must have all 4 wheels of a similar tyre.

Do not change one axle only to all season or winter. It must be all 4 tyres

Rubbish

No its not, most 4 x 4 cars need all 4 tyres to be similar rolling radius. My Outlander PHEV specifically states this. If you don't you get all sort of weird issues. My Cayenne & the Grand Cherokee before it needed the same.

Rolling circumference !!! Grrrrh!

[Pica-Pica]

journeymanpro said:

stevieturbo said:

You must have all 4 wheels of a similar tyre.

Do not change one axle only to all season or winter. It must be all 4 tyres

Rubbish

Agreed. Rubbish. There is no MUST about it, MOT does not dictate it. We have run all-seasons on the front of a FWD car, and will continue until the rears wear down or, more likely, all four wear down together. That’s at least two years now.

[MustangGT]

Pica-Pica said:

journeymanpro said:

stevieturbo said:

You must have all 4 wheels of a similar tyre.

Do not change one axle only to all season or winter. It must be all 4 tyres

Rubbish

Agreed. Rubbish. There is no MUST about it, MOT does not dictate it. We have run all-seasons on the front of a FWD car, and will continue until the rears wear down or, more likely, all four wear down together. That’s at least two years now.

It is not a problem legally, but, is also potentially increasing the risk of one end or the other having less grip than the other. From a sense point of view I would not do it.

[tr7v8]

journeymanpro said:

tr7v8 said:

No its not, most 4 x 4 cars need all 4 tyres to be similar rolling radius. My Outlander PHEV specifically states this. If you don't you get all sort of weird issues. My Cayenne & the Grand Cherokee before it needed the same.

What's that got to do with having all seasons on one axle and not the other?

Potentially different sizes, giving rise to centre diff wear or on the Outlander (as front & back axles are not mechanically linked) issues as regards the electronics seeing different rotational speeds, which causes various error messages.

[tr7v8]

Pica-Pica said:

tr7v8 said:

journeymanpro said:

stevieturbo said:

You must have all 4 wheels of a similar tyre.

Do not change one axle only to all season or winter. It must be all 4 tyres

Rubbish

No its not, most 4 x 4 cars need all 4 tyres to be similar rolling radius. My Outlander PHEV specifically states this. If you don't you get all sort of weird issues. My Cayenne & the Grand Cherokee before it needed the same.

Rolling circumference !!! Grrrrh!

6 & 2 x 3s. Different rolling radius & different circumference are the same thing.

[journeymanpro]

tr7v8 said:

Potentially different sizes, giving rise to centre diff wear or on the Outlander (as front & back axles are not mechanically linked) issues as regards the electronics seeing different rotational speeds, which causes various error messages.

Be serious

[Stupot123]

Don’t mix tyre types.

https://youtu.be/A5aMnmekA38?si=soJK34ImzmFk18QA

[wyson]

Pica-Pica said:

Agreed. Rubbish. There is no MUST about it, MOT does not dictate it. We have run all-seasons on the front of a FWD car, and will continue until the rears wear down or, more likely, all four wear down together. That’s at least two years now.

Wow, pica, surprised. Usually your advice is so sensible.

[journeymanpro]

wyson said:

Wow, pica, surprised. Usually your advice is so sensible.

No body is saying it's sensible to do it but that doesn't mean you must not do it.

[Pica-Pica]

wyson said:

Pica-Pica said:

Agreed. Rubbish. There is no MUST about it, MOT does not dictate it. We have run all-seasons on the front of a FWD car, and will continue until the rears wear down or, more likely, all four wear down together. That’s at least two years now.

Wow, pica, surprised. Usually your advice is so sensible.

I would not put them on my AWD (335d), but I get away with summer tyres, anyway. Our FWD Fabia has just all-seasons on the front as a get-out-of jail, in case of heavy ice/snow AND we absolutely need to go out. Normally in those conditions we wouldn’t go out, and those conditions are very rare. In dry or wet weather, it makes no difference with all-seasons on front, and summers on rear, winters are not bad enough to need them, but are there just in case. Unless you drive on the edge in wintry conditions, there is no issue. Plus they may have some wet/muddy grass traction for those situations where you park in a field at an event. As I said, the aim is to get all-seasons all round, and there is no MOT or tyre web-site that says you MUST fit them all round, only that you must not mix across an axle, so I am prepared to let them wear down first. That is where we, and OP’s question came in, I believe.

[Pica-Pica]

tr7v8 said:

Pica-Pica said:

tr7v8 said:

journeymanpro said:

stevieturbo said:

You must have all 4 wheels of a similar tyre.

Do not change one axle only to all season or winter. It must be all 4 tyres

Rubbish

No its not, most 4 x 4 cars need all 4 tyres to be similar rolling radius. My Outlander PHEV specifically states this. If you don't you get all sort of weird issues. My Cayenne & the Grand Cherokee before it needed the same.

Rolling circumference !!! Grrrrh!

6 & 2 x 3s. Different rolling radius & different circumference are the same thing.

But rolling circumference is the standard measurement used, to get the relationship more easily calculated to distance travelled (per engine revs or whatever). Just the convention.

[stevieturbo]

journeymanpro said:

No body is saying it's sensible to do it but that doesn't mean you must not do it.

No must, but it is incredibly stupid to do it

[stevieturbo]

journeymanpro said:

Be serious

Drivetrain damage from unequal, improper tyre sizes can be very serious. Yes.

[journeymanpro]

stevieturbo said:

Drivetrain damage from unequal, improper tyre sizes can be very serious. Yes.

No body has said it isn't and fitting all seasons on one axle not the other will make not a jot of difference to that.

[Chris32345]

journeymanpro said:

No body has said it isn't and fitting all seasons on one axle not the other will make not a jot of difference to that.

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While not recommended it will NOT cause damage


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That being said it isn't recommended for best stability